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Old Posted: Jun 5, 2009, 6:39 AM
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thanks for the link Artist. [ I see you figured out links ]

"starkly" posted this image on kgw.com of the dust blowing up from the park construction, as the big storm blew in:

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Old Posted: Jun 5, 2009, 5:06 PM
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Doesn't Portland have dust control laws? That kind of dust is terrible and unnecessary.

We enjoyed a great thunder storm a couple days ago. Does Portland get thunder and lightning? Love the progress on Mirabella.
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Old Posted: Jun 5, 2009, 8:01 PM
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^ funny you should ask... we had a tornado warning yesterday. NOTHING like a tornado alley storm (my home turf) but still quite brutal nonetheless.
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Old Posted: Jun 6, 2009, 7:32 AM
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Doesn't Portland have dust control laws? That kind of dust is terrible and unnecessary.
Yes, Portland has dust control laws. But when you have sudden gale force winds blowing through, you should be more concerned with tree branches and other large airborne objects than dust particles.
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Old Posted: Jun 6, 2009, 6:41 PM
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Yes, Portland has dust control laws. But when you have sudden gale force winds blowing through, you should be more concerned with tree branches and other large airborne objects than dust particles.
Didn't this area have industrial soil contaminants? While much cleanup was done, it's probably better if the soil doesn't become airborne. But all of this aside, my original question was, does Portland get thunder and lightning? I don't live in Oregon. Yet.
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Old Posted: Jun 6, 2009, 6:47 PM
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We get thunder in PDX maybe once or twice a year. I was driving by SOWA during the storm and saw all the dust you see in the picture, but I can assure that it's pretty unusual; in fact, I don't think I've ever seen dust blowing around down there - at least not like that.
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Old Posted: Jun 6, 2009, 11:56 PM
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But all of this aside, my original question was, does Portland get thunder and lightning? I don't live in Oregon. Yet.
Did you read my post? I guess I assumed you knew tornados usually come with lightning which in turn causes thunder.
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Old Posted: Jun 7, 2009, 1:18 AM
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Thank you for all the weather comments. I now know Portland has more exciting weather than drizzle. No more weather, please.
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Old Posted: Jun 9, 2009, 5:12 PM
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11th floor pour today.

The big dust storm was pretty unusual, and only because of all the loose dirt from the park construction. When they finish the park in a few months that won't happen again. Occasionally dust does blow around from the remaining empty brownfields south of the Ardea, the Prometheus blocks, but very windy days are rare.
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More condos selling in South Waterfront District

Brokers are optimistic about potential for the developing Portland neighborhood
POSTED: 04:00 AM PDT Friday, June 12, 2009
BY SAM BENNETT

Atwater Place in Portland’s South Waterfront neighborhood opened about a year ago, just as the economy was turning south and fewer people were buying condominiums.

The 214-unit, upscale waterfront condo tower fell victim to the effects of a credit crisis, rising unemployment and the bursting of the real estate bubble.

Atwater units are still not selling as fast as originally anticipated, but Todd Prendergast, a principal broker with Realty Trust, said he’s been encouraged by buyers’ interest in the tower and other South Waterfront buildings in the last two months.

“There is an impression that all condo sales have slowed down throughout the urban market, and the South Waterfront has been viewed as part of that,” said Prendergast. “The reality is we’ve seen a fairly significant uptick in overall traffic activity and interest, and an upswing in actual sales” in South Waterfront.

Eight Atwater units have sold in the last month, compared with a rate of about one or two per month over the winter. The building is about 30 percent sold.

“In the last two and a half months we’ve seen the market increase in activity,” said Prendergast. “We’re seeing sales concentrated in the $500,000-and-below point, and $800,000 and above.”

Prendergast acknowledged that some of the activity is normal for this season, as buyers start to emerge after winter. And some of the activity could also be attributed to historically low interest rates, which in April and May dipped to approximately 4.5 percent for a 30-year mortgage.

While rates have shot up about nearly 1 percent in the last few weeks to around 5.5 percent for a 30-year mortgage, Prendergast said 5.5 percent is “still extremely competitive.” The spike in interest rates could also be spurring people to make the decision to buy before rates go higher, he said.

Prendergast, whose company is responsible for selling all new units in three South Waterfront buildings – the Meriwether, the John Ross and Atwater Place – said there are several units available for sale in the Ross Tower and one in the Meriwether that are foreclosures. He said Realty Trust has sold all the new units in the Meriwether, 190 of about 300 in the John Ross and 60 of the 214 in Atwater Place.

He said another factor that could be spurring sales in South Waterfront is lower prices. He said that drops have been as much as 30 percent from the original asking prices – as much as $300,000 for some units.

Stacy Cooper, a broker with the Cooper Team, which specializes in condo and townhouse sales, said there are “some screaming good deals” in South Waterfront in brand new and re-sale units. “They have been making some pretty steep price reductions there,” she said.

Cooper said buyers who envisioned making quick profits by “flipping” South Waterfront condos – purchasing them before they were built and selling upon completion – probably added inventory to the South Waterfront condo market.

“The problem (in the South Waterfront) is that it is half-finished,” she said, referring to the long-term build-out of the neighborhood. “It doesn’t have a sense of people being vested in it as their community. There’s a lot of vacancies in those units.”

Yet she said “there’s a limited amount of waterfront in this city.” The area also has an active neighborhood association, waterfront trails and a handful of cafes and restaurants.

“People who bought there for the long term are going to be golden,” she said, “because it’s a great place to live.”

Richard Voss, a principal broker with Century 21, said South Waterfront is upscale like the Pearl District, but does not have the hustle and bustle at the street level. “It’s nice to be down there, where it’s kinda quiet,” he said. “It’s not so full of people on the streets.”

Prendergast said the neighborhood has about 1,000 residents, including apartment dwellers.

As more move there, the neighborhood will continue to forge its identity, he said. “The connection to nature is huge,” he said. “That connection is something that can’t be duplicated in town.”
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Old Posted: Jun 12, 2009, 6:13 PM
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Nice to hear things are picking up a bit. Hopefully the same will happen on the other end of town. I can see the Encore in the Pearl from my desk and I hate seeing it sit empty. Word is banks don't like to loan for buildings that are pretty much vacant, but if they don't make loans then it will never fill. It is a catch 22 for sure.
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Old Posted: Jun 12, 2009, 10:55 PM
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Friday photo update. EXTERIOR CLADDING!!!!!!! (see below)









well, here's the exterior cladding:



forum readers will be disappointed to learn that the color is almost EXACTLY the same shade of dark warm-gray as the John Ross, which you can see in the background of this photo above. If the Mirabella renderings are true, it appears there will also be yellowish-orange accent cladding in sections, and inside the balcony areas.



"CSMU (calcium silicate masonry unit)" cladding detail:



the ground floor storefront glass on the sidecar section looks good in person:


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Old Posted: Jun 12, 2009, 11:11 PM
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Matisse update:







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Old Posted: Jun 13, 2009, 3:30 PM
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very cool! thanks for the photos
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Old Posted: Jun 13, 2009, 7:23 PM
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Well, if the Encore starting dropping prices by 30% like the Atwater, they would probably see a similar increase in sales.
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Old Posted: Jun 13, 2009, 7:27 PM
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Word is banks don't like to loan for buildings that are pretty much vacant, but if they don't make loans then it will never fill. It is a catch 22 for sure.
They told us this exact thing when we looked at Atwater a few months ago. I assume that now that it's about 30% sold, banks will be more willing to lend to buyers in Atwater which is going to help a lot. The more people that move down here the more vibrant and lively this area is going to feel. Hopefully that will also help spur new retail once things start to turn around.
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Old Posted: Jun 14, 2009, 12:54 AM
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Dig that 1960's pink! Glad it's getting covered with grey. Thanks for the photos, Sowat.
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Old Posted: Jun 22, 2009, 6:21 PM
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Mirabella Cam! This is streaming live from the 17th floor of the Meriwether. Just in case you feel the need to see exactly what is going on with the Mirabella RIGHT NOW. I plan on leaving this up indefinately but it could come down at any time if my IP address changes or I find a better use for my webcam. Until then, enjoy.

http://71.193.207.57:8080/
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Old Posted: Jun 22, 2009, 8:03 PM
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Very, very cool web cam! Nice to see HOW some things happen. Thanks, Cronked.
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Old Posted: Jun 22, 2009, 9:10 PM
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I took that from the Ross Island Bridge two days ago. Seems to be a little less than half way to its full height.
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