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Old Posted Jun 7, 2007, 6:51 AM
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Alberta - Tier II City Thread

As a former Albertan I eagerly read and often participate in the various Alberta threads ... I've noted the Alberta threads are split about 45% Edmonton, 45% Calgary and 10% for the province in general ... what's missing, in my estimation, is a thread dedicated to new developments and other 'happenings' in Alberta's tier 2 cities (Lethbridge, Medicine Hat, Red Deer, St. Albert, Fort McMurray and Grand Prairie) ... my question Alberta foumers and former Albertan forumers too is - would there be enough interest to sustain a thread dedicated to Alberta's tier 2 cities? ... and are there sufficient Alberta forumers located in these tier 2 cities to provide input and/or metro Edmonton/metro Calgary forumers who have enough knowledge of/interest in these tier 2 cities to keep such a tread going? Let me know what y'all think ... hopefully we can make this thread viable! Thanks in advance for your interest.
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Based on the polls conducted when this forum was made...

Alberta Section Stickies
Alberta Forumer Count: Where are you from?

... I would conclude that at this point in time there would not be enough traffic to really sustain the thread. Most people are concentrated in the Big 2 cities, as mentioned, and that is also where the vast majority of projects are under construction or proposed. Red Deer, the third largest city in the province, doesn't seem to have any major proposals at all.

But what the heck, let's have a go with it and see what happens.

I would suggest changing the title though. Tier II is rather... offensive.
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Thanks for your input ... and, I'd be glad to change the thread title ... but, not sure how to do it ... also, do you and/or another forumer have a suggestion for a more appropriate thread title? ... my objective is to hopefully stimulate a decent, sustainable, thread so any assistance to that end is appreciated
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Thanks for your input ... and, I'd be glad to change the thread title ... but, not sure how to do it ... also, do you and/or another forumer have a suggestion for a more appropriate thread title? ... my objective is to hopefully stimulate a decent, sustainable, thread so any assistance to that end is appreciated
I'll have to think about that one. Maybe get back to you later on that one...
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I'd be quite interested in development in other cities especially Lethbridge, Grande Prairie, and perhaps Red Deer. However, I don't know how much I'd be able to contribute as far as project information goes.

If a thread is able to be sustained, I nominate a title of "Rest of Alberta Construction"
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2007, 7:38 AM
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University of Lethbridge's Expansion Plans

Phase I


Phase II


http://www.uleth.ca/exp/plan/#morepics

The light grey is existing, the dark grey is proposed.
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I would suggest changing the title though. Tier II is rather... offensive.
I don't see why it's offensive, it's just a statement of fact. Much like how a community of 500 is a village, one of 5000 is a town, etc. Different population centres get ranked differently. Unless people are suffering from the typical inferiority complex. Most folks I've met from the Hat or Lethbridge are very PROUD of their "nowhere near as big as Calgary but still decent sized cities" ranking.

Hell, looking at the country as a whole you'd certainly rank Calgary and Edmonton as "Tier II" cities - and I don't see a single thing wrong with that.

In the spirit of your post, though, we could go this route: Calgary and Edmonton are now labelled "Tier I" cities, and the Red Deers, Lethbridges, etc are labelled "Class A".
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Red Deer, the third largest city in the province, doesn't seem to have any major proposals at all.
Actually, I understand that a 14 story office building is in pre-construction right now in Red Deer. Red Deer College also has lots going on.
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Yeah, I had no idea about that in Red Deer... let's keep this thread alive and get information flowing about these projects.
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Most folks I've met from the Hat or Lethbridge are very PROUD of their "nowhere near as big as Calgary but still decent sized cities" ranking.
As somebody who grew up in the Hat, I can assure you: most Hatters think of everything in terms of how it relates to Medicine Hat. It's like it's in its own little bubble. Kind of like in Team America: World Police (2004) where every location is given as a distance from America.
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I'd like the thread to be around. I have family in Medicine Hat and it would be nice to see what's going on in the non Edmonton and Calgary areas.
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Actually, I understand that a 14 story office building is in pre-construction right now in Red Deer. Red Deer College also has lots going on.
I remember there was a sketching out there for that 14-story in Red Deer. Where is it?
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There was also talk about Fort Mac getting a couple of 30 something floor residential towers.
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This the new Calgary thread? Why isn't it stickied?
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I would suggest changing the title though. Tier II is rather... offensive.
Good point. II might be too high for Red Deer.
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Some content for this thread... looked up that RDC stuff.

http://www.rdc.ab.ca/planning/land_use_master_plan.html

So far, just a link to the master planning pages... not sure which one of these is the selected plan, but here they both are:

Option 1


Option 2
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Old Posted Jun 8, 2007, 2:18 AM
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A link to the City of Red Deer 2007 Projects page:
http://www.reddeer.ca/Connecting+wit...nstruction.htm


Project Engineering & Construction

The various infrastructure projects in this section include major roads, water, storm, sanitary, reservoirs, bridges and detention ponds.

The major projects for 2007 [...] include:
  • Road & Sidewalk Improvements
  • 32 Street between 55 Avenue & 57 Avenue including Red Deer College Access
  • 43 Street Widening - West of 54 Avenue to 49 Avenue
  • Oak Drive Extension
  • Industrial Arterial Roadway - Southwest of Highway 11A & West of QEII Highway
  • 32 Street Sidewalk Improvement (55 Avenue - Taylor Drive)
  • 60 Street Sidewalk (51 Avenue to Gaetz Avenue & 52 Avenue to 54 Avenue)
  • New Sidewalk & Transit Improvements - Various Locations
  • Streetlight & Power Pole Relocations - Various Locations

    Greater Downtown Action Plan (GDAP) - Traffic Initiatives
  • No construction/improvements planned in 2007

    City Subdivision Development
  • Johnstone Crossing Phase 8
  • Oriole Park Phase 3 - includes Red Deer River Bank Training
  • Timberlands Phase 1
  • Northwest Industrial Development - Phase 1 West of QEII Highway & Highway 11A

    Traffic Signals
  • 32 Street & Webster Drive
  • Johnstone Drive & Edgar Industrial Drive
  • Collicutt Centre Access & 30 Avenue
  • Ross Street & 36 Avenue
  • Ross Street & 38 Avenue
  • Olymel Access & 40 Avenue
  • 77 Street & 40 Avenue
  • Traffic Controller & Field Equipment Upgrade
  • Safety Initiatives at High Accident Intersections

    Studies (Various Locations)
  • RDC Access/32 Street Functional Design
  • Northland Drive Functional Design
  • Gaetz Avenue/32 Street Functional Design
  • Southeast Red Deer Transportation Improvements
  • Traffic Control Infrastructure
  • Traffic Safety Initiative
  • Timberlands Neighborhood Area Structure Plan & Servicing
  • Northeast Servicing Study
  • Riverlands Traffic Impact Assessment

    Water, Sanitary, Storm Projects
  • Water Trunk Crossing Red Deer River
  • Water Supply Trunk along 45 Avenue from 59 Street to 63 Street
  • 30 Avenue - 55 Street to 67 Street Trunk - Water Trunk
  • Industrial Development Southwest of Highway 11A & QE11 Highway - Water Trunk
  • 45 Avenue Sanitary Infrastructure - Sanitary Trunk
  • City Timberlands (NW23) - Sanitary Trunk
  • Northland Drive Trunk - 30 Avenue to Riverside Drive - Sanitary Trunk
  • Riverside Drive Trunk Twinning - Sanitary Trunk
  • Industrial Development Southwest of Highway 11A & QEII Highway - Sanitary Trunk
  • 67 Street Storm Trunks & Pond - Storm Trunk
  • College Park - Storm Trunk
  • Industrial Development Southwest of Highway 11A & QEII Highway - Storm Trunk
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Ooooo... actual material to talk about!
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Proposed: Fort McMurray - Edinburgh Towers

http://www.edinburghtowers.com/


Does anybody remember the name of those twins that were proposed a while back? The ones that look kinda like Five West?
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From the Alberta Infrastructure pages:

Health Facilities

Lethbridge

Project:
Lethbridge Chinook Regional Health Authority Facility Redevelopment - Phase 1 - Renovations for Integrated Disease Management Centre
Lethbridge Regional Hospital (Untendered)

Capacity/Description:
Preservation Project - Planning Stage - Scope unknown


Medicine Hat

Project:
Medicine Hat Palliser Health Authority Regional Dialysis Unit - Medicine Hat Regional Hospital (Untendered)

Capacity/Description:
Preservation Project - New 18 station unit to
replace 10 station unit


Red Deer

Project:
Red Deer David Thompson Regional Health Authority - Red Deer Community Health Centre (Untendered)

Capacity/Description:
New Project - Planning Stage - Scope unknown

Project:
Red Deer David Thompson Regional Health Authority Redevelopment - Red Deer Regional Hospital (Tendered)

Capacity/Description:
Expansion Project
- An increase in total bed numbers from 309 to 395
- New emergency including ambulance bay and heliport
- Enlarge the Central Services Building to accommodate the administrative and support functions
- New and expanded Central Alberta Cancer Centre
- New and expanded 18-station Renal Dialysis Unit


Post-Secondary Projects

Fort McMurray

Project:
Keyano College Sport and Wellness Centre - Clearwater Campus (Untendered)

Capacity/Description:
Expansion Project


Lethbridge

Project:
The Board of Governors of Lethbridge Community College - Cousins Building (Untendered)

Capacity/Description:
Preservation Project

Project:
University of Lethbridge Service Building Replacement (Untendered)

Capacity/Description:
New Facility


Medicine Hat

Project:
Medicine Hat College - Power Engineering (Untendered)

Capacity/Description:
Preservation Project

Project:
Medicine Hat College Replace Rooftop Units Various Buildings (Untendered)

Capacity/Description:
Preservation Project

Red Deer

Project:
Red Deer College Replace Rooftop Units Various Buildings (Untendered)

Capacity/Description:
Preservation Project
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