PROVO, UT: Official Development News Thread - Page 52

scottharding · #**1021** Posted: **Aug 31, 2009, 8:41 PM**

I, for one, don't mind the red tile. Yes, I think brick would have been better, but I still think this is a good looking building. All a matter of opinion, as usual.
Thanks for the picture updates TonyAnderson.

aspiringArchitect · #**1022** Posted: **Aug 31, 2009, 9:00 PM**

I don't get it. If you're going to make a new building resemble an old one, why don't you? At the very least use brick, not red tiling! And , maybe break up the stucco's boring straight lines with (atleast) some plain cornices. Even if you can tell it is fake, it would look alot better than it does now. Look i'm sorry but this building had potential but these guys blew it.

TonyAnderson · #**1023** Posted: **Sep 1, 2009, 2:09 AM**

I guess that's the problem when building during a recession. You have to make some compromises. Still, I think the building is a nice addition, and still want to see the final look to make a true judgment. Ideally, building's like this and the Wells Fargo will just be nice infill one day surrounded by bigger and better buildings.

They've also started doing a lot of work on the parking terrace in the back, which isn't really seen in the pictures.

delts145 · #**1024** Posted: **Sep 6, 2009, 12:44 PM**

Quiet zones coming sooner for some Provo neighborhoods

http://www.heraldextra.com/news/loca...8c0d85fa5.html

...Steve Meyer, UTA's manager of engineering and construction for the FrontRunner Commuter Rail, is behind the longest quiet zone in the country, which stretches from downtown Salt Lake City to Pleasant View and will about double in length once FrontRunner South is open...

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poodledoodledude · #**1025** Posted: **Sep 9, 2009, 8:38 PM**

so, i've been "gone" for awhile...just busy with work and all...met some more people on the city council...one is really likeable. i've liked this person for awhile.

anyway, they were telling me that provo will look SOOOO different in a few years...and that the convention center was a key part in that. i mentioned that a friend of mine KNOWS the guy(s) trying to get the hilton here. they said that was the first time they had heard a name of the brand of hotel...

but, they DID say there was a LOT going on that they COULDN'T say just yet...and that in due time we would hear more things coming soon to improve our downtown...

also, i heard that orem is getting TWO...yes, TWO-- TWO-- 2 in-n-out burgers because "provo didn't want one..." if this IS true, SHAME ON PROVO. we've GOT to have places like this for residents to start staying in provo to go "shopping..." i know it's just a burger joint...but COME ON!!! if it starts with this..what ELSE will it be NEXT TIME?!

poodledoodledude
p.s. i'm the one that organized the s'mores event that got HEATED the other day...it was interesting...it was in the daily herald...

Future Mayor · #**1026** Posted: **Sep 9, 2009, 9:28 PM**

Next time you talk to your new friend on City Council, tell them they need to encourage establishments that serve alcohol in Downtown Provo, rather than discourage.

Unless they only plan on hosting scrapbooking festivals at the new convention center, they will loose out on a lot of conventions if there is a nice variety of eating establishments.

poodledoodledude · #**1027** Posted: **Sep 9, 2009, 11:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Future Mayor

Next time you talk to your new friend on City Council, tell them they need to encourage establishments that serve alcohol in Downtown Provo, rather than discourage.

Unless they only plan on hosting scrapbooking festivals at the new convention center, they will loose out on a lot of conventions if there is a nice variety of eating establishments.

boy, future mayor... NO KIDDING!!! i couldn't AGREE MORE with this statement!! my thoughts exactly!!

TonyAnderson · #**1028** Posted: **Sep 9, 2009, 11:22 PM**

I agree. I'm not an advocate for a bunch of bars. But a variety of nice establishments which may include alcohol as part of its menu would be great. Provo can be conservative but still somewhat diverse. It needs to detach itself from the idea that Provo is BYU and vice versa.

goldcntry · #**1029** Posted: **Sep 10, 2009, 2:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Future Mayor

Next time you talk to your new friend on City Council, tell them they need to encourage establishments that serve alcohol in Downtown Provo, rather than discourage.

Unless they only plan on hosting scrapbooking festivals at the new convention center, they will loose out on a lot of conventions if there is a nice variety of eating establishments.

And speaking as one who has attended scrapbooking festivals and knows many of those crazy ladies, and as someone who has been a demonstrator for a major rubber stamp and scrapbooking company for over 12 years (one of the few guys to boot), even scrapbooking festival attendees like to let their hair down and party. Hard. I've been my group of ladies' designated driver for years now. Much hillarity can/will insue when we all get together!

delts145 · #**1030** Posted: **Sep 10, 2009, 4:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by TonyAnderson

I agree. I'm not an advocate for a bunch of bars. But a variety of nice establishments which may include alcohol as part of its menu would be great. Provo can be conservative but still somewhat diverse. It needs to detach itself from the idea that Provo is BYU and vice versa.

Very much agree. Classy restaurants need to have the ability for a bar set-up. Otherwise their ability to attain a reasonable profit margin is extremely difficult, especially in a tourist/convention atmosphere. If we don't allow these elegant and classy joints to include set-up, then we have dive bars as typical alternatives, and far fewer classy or top shelf restaurants, even in a place like Provo.

Future Mayor · #**1031** Posted: **Sep 10, 2009, 4:32 PM**

While I haven't been in Spark I have driven by it, and I have talked to a BYU Student that goes there on the weekends. She says they order fancy drinks, non-alcoholic of course, but I wonder. Is this first and second year BYU crowd making Spark the money they really have the potential to make, and as a result are they getting the quality of servers they need if the money isn't there.

Spark is EXACTLY the type of higher end, "chic" establishment that must have a bar element to it. I would guess that while the crowds might not be as large if they had a full service bar included, the revenues for the restaurant and the workers would make up for it.

I would guess that many business travelers staying at the Marriott, or attending current conventions and the 20-30 young professionals that reside in the area would frequent the place. IMO

Orlando · #**1032** Posted: **Sep 12, 2009, 12:53 AM**

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...g=content;col1

New sustainable/organic restaurant with home like food. They are restoring an old building on 100? UNiversity Ave.

TonyAnderson · #**1033** Posted: **Sep 15, 2009, 3:56 AM**

Taken this past weekend.

And Bonus Shot:

acw007 · #**1034** Posted: **Sep 15, 2009, 4:51 AM**

Not bad. I just can’t get over how much it looks like a hospital.

delts145 · #**1035** Posted: **Sep 15, 2009, 10:39 AM**

I think the building configuration is great. However, the use of too much of the beige stucco is a very poor call. Someone should really be taken to task for making such a POOR DECISION. I am seriously tempted to call Zions, The Herald, etc. and ask what they were thinking, and for the Herald to please do a critique on it.

Poodle, who would be the Herald editor who usually does the write-ups on these types of projects? I think we should get a little write-in campaign going. We owe those responsible at least a piece of our mind on this matter. If the problem was a serious financial short fall, then okay. But, I would like to see a committment to upgrade the facade when times improve.

Checked out Gloria's the other day. Excellent deli and bakery. Haven't sampled the menu yet, but I think I'll be back soon.

poodledoodledude · #**1036** Posted: **Sep 15, 2009, 3:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by delts145

I think the building configuration is great. However, the use of too much of the beige stucco is a very poor call. Someone should really be taken to task for making such a POOR DECISION. I am seriously tempted to call Zions, The Herald, etc. and ask what they were thinking, and for the Herald to please do a critique on it.

Poodle, who would be the Herald editor who usually does the write-ups on these types of projects? I think we should get a little write-in campaign going. We owe those responsible at least a piece of our mind on this matter. If the problem was a serious financial short fall, then okay. But, I would like to see a committment to upgrade the facade when times improve.

Checked out Gloria's the other day. Excellent deli and bakery. Haven't sampled the menu yet, but I think I'll be back soon.

delts....i don't know who it would be...but i think it would be heidi toth...she seems to be the MAIN story person as of late...i could EASILY see her doing a story on it...

also, about the facade. i think it looks...unfinished. the beige is too dark to look like the finished product. i was thinking it was still the primer!! AAARRRGHH.... i know the city had a LOT to do with the design....like how many window, what style, etc....that is a person's campaign platform about how the city is moronic for dictating that, but not other, more pressing issues. go figure...i think the city needs to be involved somewhat on how things look, since we ALL have to look at it for a LONG TIME...but, my personal views aside, i don't like the COLOR....

poodledoodledude

poodledoodledude · #**1037** Posted: **Sep 15, 2009, 3:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by acw007

Not bad. I just can’t get over how much it looks like a hospital.

acw007--

did i NOT say this from DAY ONE?! it looks like an old 1960's style post WWII hopspital!!

poodledoodledude

TonyAnderson · #**1038** Posted: **Sep 15, 2009, 9:19 PM**

It does look pretty bland, especially from close up. Though from skyline shots it doesn't appear too bad.

Hey poodle, what's the address of where the convention center will be built?

Neuroguy · #**1039** Posted: **Sep 15, 2009, 9:27 PM**

I generally am pretty accepting of a lot of designs and have little to say about architectural design, but I agree the new Zion's bank building

has to be one of the ugliest buildings around, and being the year 2009 and not 1979- this is sad. I hope along with you Poodle that they will change the color, but I'm not even sure if that would help much. The thing looks even worse in person in my opinion. At least the Wells Fargo building, albeit largely stucco, is acceptable from a visual-aesthetics stand point, and looks to fit into the area. The Zion's bank looks like someone was operating under the "build a taller building than you" mentality and failed to consider any responsibility to good taste, milieu and lasting style. I dislike the color, shape, design, materials and even the height. The use of what appears to be floor tiles on the exterior, has not been executed well. I hope that I can change my mind when it is all done, but I doubt it. The south and east elevations are horrendous! Sorry, enough ranting.

acw007 · #**1040** Posted: **Sep 15, 2009, 9:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by poodledoodledude

acw007--

did i NOT say this from DAY ONE?! it looks like an old 1960's style post WWII hopspital!!

poodledoodledude

Possibly lol. I don’t know, I don’t read this thread that often but I do read it often enough to be a tad jealous of Provo. I’m jealous of the office development going over there and I find it interesting how much you guys complain about not having good or enough restaurants and retail. We have exactly the opposite problem here. All restaurants and bars with little office development. We’ve had a nice little boom in the residential market downtown as well but the office market it seriously lacking. Anywho. Interesting to compare two cities of similar size that are so well recognized as great places to live.