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Old Posted Jun 26, 2007, 1:30 PM
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Post Request1: commercial Bldgs at Sao Paulo-SP

Really sorry to try to ask all those buildings in just one thread, but I do not want to be annoying. As the source is just one, I put all together. Sorry the unconvenience in anyway and thanks for your help und understanding.

Source: http://www.officespace.com.br/SubMkt...m=Paraiso&ST=1

Building Request Form - ALBATROZ

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Official sources:
Unofficial sources: http://www.officespace.com.br/SubMkt...m=Paraiso&ST=1

Building Name: Albatroz
Native Name:
Other Names:
Address: Rua Sampaio Viana 277, Vila Mariana
City: São Paulo-SP
Postal Code: CEP 04004-000
State/Province: São Paulo
Country: Brazil
Official Building Website URL:
Skyscrapers.com (Emporis.info) URL: http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=...aopaulo-brazil
Architect/Constructor: Barbara Engenharia e Construtora.
Interesting Facts/Records (in own words): Individual Air-conditioning, fibra optic. 52 Garage places inside underground.

Heights--

PLEASE PROVIDE SOURCES FOR HEIGHTS, OTHERWISE WE WILL ASSUME THEY ARE ESTIMATES.
- antenna:
- spire:
- roof: 45,5m estimate
- top floor:
- other heights:

Current Building Status (Built, Proposed, Canceled, Destroyed, etc...): Built

Construction Dates--
- started: 1991 estimate
- finished: 1994
- destroyed:


Above ground floors: 15 by emporis, 13 reality as source.
Below ground floors: 2
Floor-to-floor height:
Gross Floor area: 2340m2
Elevator count: 2 , each 10 people 900kg.
Unit count: 13

Structure Type(s): Highrise
Building Use(s): Office
Building Style(s): Modern
Building Materials: Concrete reinforced, Brick, Steel, Aluminium, Glass....
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Building Request Form - CONJUNTO COMERCIAL PARAÍSO

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Official sources:
Unofficial sources: http://www.officespace.com.br/SubMkt...m=Paraiso&ST=1

Building Name: Conjunto Comercial Paraíso
Native Name:
Other Names:
Address: Rua Bernardino de Campos 98, Paraíso

City: São Paulo-SP
Postal Code: CEP 04004-040
State/Province: São Paulo
Country: Brazil
Official Building Website URL:
Skyscrapers.com (Emporis.info) URL: http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=...aopaulo-brazil
Architect/Constructor:
Interesting Facts/Records (in own words): Fan-coil central Air-conditioning, fibra optic MetroRed. 75 Garage places inside underground.

Heights--

PLEASE PROVIDE SOURCES FOR HEIGHTS, OTHERWISE WE WILL ASSUME THEY ARE ESTIMATES.
- antenna:
- spire:
- roof: 52,5m estimate
- top floor:
- other heights:

Current Building Status (Built, Proposed, Canceled, Destroyed, etc...): Built

Construction Dates--
- started: 1969 estimate
- finished: 1972
- destroyed:


Above ground floors: 16 by emporis, 15 reality as source.
Below ground floors: 2
Floor-to-floor height:
Gross Floor area: 9975m2
Elevator count: 3 , each 19 people.
Unit count: 15

Structure Type(s): Highrise
Building Use(s): Office
Building Style(s): Modern
Building Materials: Concrete reinforced, Brick, Steel, Aluminium, Glass....
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Drawing Availible

Building Request Form - Cubatão 416

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Official sources:
Unofficial sources: http://www.officespace.com.br/SubMkt...m=Paraiso&ST=1

Building Name: Cubatão 416
Native Name:
Other Names:
Address: Rua Cubatão 416, Vila Mariana
City: São Paulo-SP
Postal Code: CEP 04013-001
State/Province: São Paulo
Country: Brazil
Official Building Website URL:
Skyscrapers.com (Emporis.info) URL:

Architect/Constructor:
Interesting Facts/Records (in own words): Individual Air-conditioning, BMS System. 52 Garage places inside underground.

Heights--

PLEASE PROVIDE SOURCES FOR HEIGHTS, OTHERWISE WE WILL ASSUME THEY ARE ESTIMATES.
- antenna:
- spire:
- roof: 35m estimate
- top floor:
- other heights:

Current Building Status (Built, Proposed, Canceled, Destroyed, etc...): Built

Construction Dates--
- started: 2000 estimate
- finished: 2003
- destroyed:


Above ground floors: 10 reality as source.
Below ground floors: 1
Floor-to-floor height:
Gross Floor area: 1660m2
Elevator count: 2 , each 10 people 900kg.
Unit count: 10

Structure Type(s): Highrise
Building Use(s): Office
Building Style(s): Modern
Building Materials: Concrete reinforced, Brick, Steel, Aluminium, Glass....
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Building Request Form - DELTA PLAZA

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Official sources:
Unofficial sources: http://www.officespace.com.br/SubMkt...m=Paraiso&ST=1

Building Name: DELTA PLAZA
Native Name:
Other Names:
Address: Rua Cincinato Braga 340/348, Paraíso
City: São Paulo-SP
Postal Code: CEP 01333-010

State/Province: São Paulo
Country: Brazil
Official Building Website URL:
Skyscrapers.com (Emporis.info) URL: http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=...aopaulo-brazil

Architect/Constructor:
architect: Botti Rubin Arquitetos Associados S/C Ltda
Other firms: Stan Desenvolvimento Imobiliário, Serplan.


Interesting Facts/Records (in own words): Central Air-conditioning, fibra optic, System BMS. Building Systems like Smoke sensors from Honeywell. 190 Garage places inside underground. Heliport on roof.

Heights--

PLEASE PROVIDE SOURCES FOR HEIGHTS, OTHERWISE WE WILL ASSUME THEY ARE ESTIMATES.
- antenna:
- spire:
- roof: 63m estimate, 80m emporis.
- top floor:
- other heights:

Current Building Status (Built, Proposed, Canceled, Destroyed, etc...): Built

Construction Dates--
- started: 1989 estimate
- finished: 1992 - renovated 2003
- destroyed:


Above ground floors: 22 by emporis (wrong), 18 reality as source. I count 21 by photo.
Below ground floors: 3

Floor-to-floor height:
Gross Floor area: 8716m2
Elevator count: 4 , each 16 people.
Unit count: 18 minimum.


Structure Type(s): Highrise
Building Use(s): Office
Building Style(s): Modern
Building Materials: Concrete reinforced, Brick, Steel, Aluminium, Glass....
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Drawing Availible

Building Request Form - Dom Pedro I de Alcântara

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Official sources:
Unofficial sources: http://www.officespace.com.br/SubMkt...m=Paraiso&ST=1

Building Name: Dom Pedro I de Alcântara
Native Name:
Other Names:
Address:Av. Paulista 171, Paraíso/Vila Mariana

City: São Paulo-SP
Postal Code: CEP 01311-000

State/Province: São Paulo
Country: Brazil
Official Building Website URL:
Skyscrapers.com (Emporis.info) URL: http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=...aopaulo-brazil

Architect/Constructor:
Interesting Facts/Records (in own words): Individual Air-conditioning, fibra optic Telmex. 36 Garage places inside underground. This building in reality was as Residential constructed. Aftwerwords was bought and transformed into office with the facade complete redone in brown-glass.

Heights--

PLEASE PROVIDE SOURCES FOR HEIGHTS, OTHERWISE WE WILL ASSUME THEY ARE ESTIMATES.
- antenna:
- spire:
- roof: 42m estimate
- top floor:
- other heights:

Current Building Status (Built, Proposed, Canceled, Destroyed, etc...): Built

Construction Dates--
- started: 1950 estimate
- finished: 1954
- destroyed:


Above ground floors: 13 by emporis, 12 reality as source.
Below ground floors: 1
Floor-to-floor height:
Gross Floor area: 6336m2
Elevator count: 2 , each 8 people 980kg.
Unit count: 12

Structure Type(s): Highrise
Building Use(s): Office
Building Style(s): Modern
Building Materials: Concrete reinforced, Brick, Steel, Aluminium, Glass....
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Drawing Availible

Building Request Form - EQUIFAX

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Official sources:
Unofficial sources: http://www.officespace.com.br/SubMkt...m=Paraiso&ST=1

Building Name: EQUIFAX Saint Paul
Native Name:
Other Names:
Address: Rua Teixeira da Silva 216, Vila Mariana
City: São Paulo-SP
Postal Code: CEP 04002-030

State/Province: São Paulo
Country: Brazil
Official Building Website URL:
Skyscrapers.com (Emporis.info) URL: http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=...aopaulo-brazil

Architect/Constructor:
Interesting Facts/Records (in own words): Central Air-conditioning, CFTV, fibra optic, Generator, Disabled people friend, Sprinklers, Kitchen, 2 WC per floor, Access to Al. Santos and Av. Paulista. 50 Garage places inside underground.

Heights--

PLEASE PROVIDE SOURCES FOR HEIGHTS, OTHERWISE WE WILL ASSUME THEY ARE ESTIMATES.
- antenna:
- spire:
- roof: 35m estimate
- top floor:
- other heights:

Current Building Status (Built, Proposed, Canceled, Destroyed, etc...): Built

Construction Dates--
- started:

- finished:
- destroyed:


Above ground floors: 11 by emporis, 10 reality as source.
Below ground floors: 2
Floor-to-floor height:
Gross Floor area: 6000m2
Elevator count: 2.
Unit count: 10

Structure Type(s): Highrise
Building Use(s): Office
Building Style(s): Modern
Building Materials: Concrete reinforced, Brick, Steel, Aluminium, Glass....
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Drawing in consideration

Building Request Form - Fellici Anorizze Empresarial

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Official sources:
Unofficial sources: http://www.officespace.com.br/SubMkt...m=Paraiso&ST=1

Building Name: Fellici Anorizze Empresarial
Native Name:
Other Names:
Address: Rua Cincinato Braga 321, Vila Mariana
City: São Paulo-SP
Postal Code: CEP 01333-011

State/Province: São Paulo
Country: Brazil
Official Building Website URL:
Skyscrapers.com (Emporis.info) URL: http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=...aopaulo-brazil

Architect/Constructor:
Interesting Facts/Records (in own words): Individual Air-conditioning Split, BMS Fire System. 48 Garage places inside underground.

Heights--

PLEASE PROVIDE SOURCES FOR HEIGHTS, OTHERWISE WE WILL ASSUME THEY ARE ESTIMATES.
- antenna:
- spire:
- roof: 42m estimate
- top floor:
- other heights:

Current Building Status (Built, Proposed, Canceled, Destroyed, etc...): Built

Construction Dates--
- started: 1999 estimate
- finished: 2002
- destroyed:


Above ground floors: 13 by emporis, 12 reality as source.
Below ground floors: 2
Floor-to-floor height:
Gross Floor area: 3425m2 all to be sold.
Elevator count: 2 , each 8 people.
Unit count: 12

Structure Type(s): Highrise
Building Use(s): Office
Building Style(s): Modern
Building Materials: Concrete reinforced, Brick, Steel, Aluminium, Glass....
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Drawing Availible

Last edited by M.K.; Jun 26, 2007 at 9:31 PM. Reason: Divided in two as LMICH request per PM
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Old Posted Jun 27, 2007, 12:04 AM
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All of this talk of "reality" and second guessing the sources you post, such for floor counts, is not needed, and stop doing it. I really don't much care what you think is right or wrong. If you can't find a source to back up what you feel is the truth, I don't want to see it post. Only posts things from sources.

Since you think we're going to argue about this every time you posts a request, I will add the floor counts as I see fit. You continue to refuse not to count the groundfloor as a floor when you do a floor count, so I will add whatever Emporis.com and I count since we count the ground floor as a floor. From pictures, the Albatroz is clearly has over 13 floors, the Delta Plaza clearly has 22 floors, Dom Pedro I de Alcântara clearly has 13 floors, and so on and so on. It's not up for debate; your reality is not the reality.
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