60,000,000 in California by 2050

[MolsonExport]

TalB, anyone? Anyone?

[Nicko999]

Too much time between 2008 and 2050. This prediction probably won't happen

[davedensf]

Originally Posted by dimondpark

I dont know why people think its scary?

The NE is about the physical size of California and has about 60 Million people. They seem to be fine.

Very little desert in the NE, however.

[MolsonExport]

^indeed, although plenty of peaks

[Hot Rod]

I think there will be a ceiling at around 40M, which will be reached in 2050. CA doesn't have a lot of resources (ie water) and so this will be a delimiting factor - not to mention the number of Californians who are already migrating to other metros even as we speak.

Is there ANY major metro that doesn't have a large influx of Californians?

[Gordo]

Originally Posted by Hot Rod

I think there will be a ceiling at around 40M, which will be reached in 2050. CA doesn't have a lot of resources (ie water) and so this will be a delimiting factor - not to mention the number of Californians who are already migrating to other metros even as we speak.

Is there ANY major metro that doesn't have a large influx of Californians?

Current estimates put the CA population somewhere around 37 million - 40 will be reached in less than a decade. There are no desalinization plants in CA yet, there are in TX - look for plenty to be built in the next 40 years.

Is there ANY major metro in California that doesn't have a HUGE influx of immigrants from all corners of the globe?

[LucasS6]

Originally Posted by Gordo

Is there ANY major metro in California that doesn't have a HUGE influx of immigrants from all corners of the globe?

Is there any in the country?

[Gordo]

Originally Posted by LucasS6

Is there any in the country?

You're partially correct - I was just pointing out that domestic net-outmigration has little bearing on population growth in California. There are certainly many metros that are experiencing much less growth from immigration than any of the CA metros. With current domestic out-migration, California is still growing by half a million residents per year.

[JDRCRASH]

Originally Posted by Gordo

Current estimates put the CA population somewhere around 37 million - 40 will be reached in less than a decade. There are no desalinization plants in CA yet, there are in TX - look for plenty to be built in the next 40 years.

There you go. Thank you.

[nwroots]

The fires, lack of water, and the population increase in Southern California compelled me to move back to Oregon! It's so fresh and clean here in Portland..

[kcexpress69]

Originally Posted by nwroots

The fires, lack of water, and the population increase in Southern California compelled me to move back to Oregon! It's so fresh and clean here in Portland..

Hopefully the cost of living and the amount of taxes you pay are lower as well!!

[delts145]

Originally Posted by kcexpress69

That article just focused on California. What do you think Arizona's population will be by 2050? New Mexico? South Texas? Edluva made me think of an interesting point as well. It's true that if you put Michigan, Illinois, and Ohio together, you would have the same size and population as California. However, the population of those three states have also stablized. By 2050 that population might have increased by a few million whereas California would almost double. That state is going to have a huge problem if it doesn't already now. If the population growth exceeds economic growth, you can bet that the able bodied people will move east in a heartbeat. And not just Riverside county or Fresno. Perhaps the Midwest.

Perhaps the Midwest, but that would be a BIG perhaps. As someone who has lived in So. Cal for many years, I think I understand it's selling points pretty well, and what additional options Southern Californians will seek out most. Most alternative states would be located in the West. Eastern Oregon and Washington are more of an attractive alternative for Californians, or even the Boise area. Utah and Denver/Western Colorado will continure to be at the top of California's wish list nationally, for both having a large urban core and adjacent requisite jaw-dropping scenery and convenient outdoor amenities, of the spectacular variety. One up and coming metro to watch will be Southern Utah's St. George area. The climate is Las Vegas like, but the surrounding scenery is mind blowing, and it is a very short clip to Vegas for world class diversion.

[delts145]

Originally Posted by Gordo

Current estimates put the CA population somewhere around 37 million - 40 will be reached in less than a decade. There are no desalinization plants in CA yet, there are in TX - look for plenty to be built in the next 40 years.

Is there ANY major metro in California that doesn't have a HUGE influx of immigrants from all corners of the globe?

Gordo, could you elaborate a little more on the desalination plants in Texas. I have this very powerful gut feeling that these plants will prove very critical to the West's future, particularly So. Calif. and the I-15 corridor, and the Intermountain West and Southwest. What is the consensus in Texas so far on the plants?

[Gordo]

Originally Posted by delts145

Gordo, could you elaborate a little more on the desalination plants in Texas. I have this very powerful gut feeling that these plants will prove very critical to the West's future, particularly So. Calif. and the I-15 corridor, and the Intermountain West and Southwest. What is the consensus in Texas so far on the plants?

I don't know what the consensus has been so far. To my knowledge, the only plants open so far are for brackish ground water, rather than straight from the sea. This link talks about the one in El Paso quite a bit:

http://www.twdb.state.tx.us/iwt/desal/faqgeneral.html

[Mr. Rochester]

After reading this, I am happy to live in the old east.

[StethJeff]

screw splitting the state. secession would be better.

[edluva]

I concur

[murdoc9]

Interesting - sure good for development. Makes for a much more interesting conversation than Indiana in 40 years.

[LivingInExile]

I'm so glad our immigration is starting to get a bit more diverse.

Most would think Mexicans are like 90% of the immigrants here, but there's also a large segment of Asians coming here, along with a rapidly increasing population of sub-saharan Africans. Brazilians are also becoming more and more noticeable in many areas too.

In 2050, California's going to have a very diverse mix of people.

[TANGELD_SLC]

But what if Cali falls into the ocean before 2050?