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Canadian Mind · #**1001** Posted: **Mar 6, 2010, 5:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by mcminsen

Almost seems like a little bit of Manhattan. Imagine the "Turn" on the right.

Georgia Street looking West from Granville.

Feb.21 '10 my pic

I lik the way Shangri-la stands out, looks very big-city. Sadly I don't think you'll actually see much of the Turn from this angle, a sliver at best.

The sites of the Grosvenor Building and the silver building between it and the Shangri-la, if ever bought under the same owner or otherwise amalgamated, could be a nice spot to add the the Sentinel look and overall peak of the skyline. Whats the city's policy on these sites for re-development?

Rusty Gull · #**1002** Posted: **Mar 6, 2010, 6:23 AM**

^ I hope there is some way that jumbo Canadian flag could remain permanent - maybe at another location? In my opinion, Vancouver became an Olympics city on the day that flag went up. It looked awesome then, and it still looks amazing now.

Yume-sama · #**1003** Posted: **Mar 6, 2010, 6:33 AM**

Indeed it will be sad to see it go.

Locked In · #**1004** Posted: **Mar 6, 2010, 7:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by Canadian Mind

The sites of the Grosvenor Building and the silver building between it and the Shangri-la, if ever bought under the same owner or otherwise amalgamated, could be a nice spot to add the the Sentinel look and overall peak of the skyline. Whats the city's policy on these sites for re-development?

There's no view cone over the probable development site identified on Alberni between Burrard and Thurlow - so maybe one day we'll see something tall there?

I don't actually remember where I found this graphic, but I'm hosting it with the rest of my photos.

Canadian Mind · #**1005** Posted: **Mar 6, 2010, 8:41 AM**

I have it too on my harddrive. it's on here in several diffeent places... all from the days when you didn't have to list your source. but just because there is no viewcone doesn't eman the city will allow another 600-700 foot residential tower or a 700-800 foot office tower.

ozonemania · #**1006** Posted: **Mar 6, 2010, 10:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by Rusty Gull

^ I hope there is some way that jumbo Canadian flag could remain permanent - maybe at another location? In my opinion, Vancouver became an Olympics city on the day that flag went up. It looked awesome then, and it still looks amazing now.

Sears building???

Although I will miss the big projected ads on the building at night there too... Those Nike ads were wicked sick.

Hed Kandi · #**1007** Posted: **Mar 6, 2010, 5:44 PM**

When is construction set to recommence with this development?

trofirhen · #**1008** Posted: **Mar 6, 2010, 5:58 PM**

Are we talking about the Shangri-La (already finished) in this post....... or the Ritz Carlton ?? ?

Sorry, but I'm confused. Frankly, it would make a lot more sense to focus on the R.C. given that it has not yet been biuilt.

LeftCoaster · #**1009** Posted: **Mar 6, 2010, 6:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by Canadian Mind

I lik the way Shangri-la stands out, looks very big-city. Sadly I don't think you'll actually see much of the Turn from this angle, a sliver at best.

The sites of the Grosvenor Building and the silver building between it and the Shangri-la, if ever bought under the same owner or otherwise amalgamated, could be a nice spot to add the the Sentinel look and overall peak of the skyline. Whats the city's policy on these sites for re-development?

The RC would definitely be visible from this location. The setback is not far off Georgia since the site has little depth. If you look at the terasen building it wouldd likely be nearly as visible.

The site you mentioned, as was shown be others, is not under any height restrictions and only has FSR's to deal with if ever redeveloped. It would be a massive undertaking demolishing the grovsner building though, less so with the silver building, but there may come a time many years down the road when it becomes a feasable plan... not any time in the next decade though.

Would be a sweet place for a tall office building though.

entheosfog · #**1010** Posted: **Mar 7, 2010, 2:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by Rusty Gull

^ I hope there is some way that jumbo Canadian flag could remain permanent - maybe at another location? In my opinion, Vancouver became an Olympics city on the day that flag went up. It looked awesome then, and it still looks amazing now.

I would definitely rather have the restored Georgia Hotel showing but having something, anything on Sears would be good. Or no Sears building at all!

jlousa · #**1011** Posted: **Mar 16, 2010, 2:45 AM**

Bit of an update, building is still progressing, that's the good news. The bad news is the Ritz is out, and the current rumour is it will a Marriott. Why the Marriott I don't know as it doesn't make much sense to me, especially when they have a hotel just down the street. But that's what I've heard, hope I'm wrong.

Metro-One · #**1012** Posted: **Mar 16, 2010, 3:03 AM**

Will that have any impact on the design / aesthetics of the project? Of course a Ritz would be much more desirable (It is strange Vancouver does not already have a Ritz location) but as long as this project is progressing that is good news.

flight_from_kamakura · #**1013** Posted: **Mar 16, 2010, 3:13 AM**

i bet the gonzo february sales numbers are acting as a tonic for any hiccups on some of these higher end projects.

Prometheus · #**1014** Posted: **Mar 16, 2010, 3:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by jlousa

Bit of an update, building is still progressing, that's the good news. The bad news is the Ritz is out, and the current rumour is it will a Marriott. Why the Marriott I don't know as it doesn't make much sense to me, especially when they have a hotel just down the street. But that's what I've heard, hope I'm wrong.

Did it get its extra height in the end?

deasine · #**1015** Posted: **Mar 16, 2010, 3:28 AM**

I'm not surprised Marriott took over. Afterall, Ritz-Carlton is owned by Marriott International. Maybe it will be home to JW Marriott, slightly higher class of Marriott and slightly lower class compared to Ritz, since it doesn't have a hotel in Vancouver.

Rusty Gull · #**1016** Posted: **Mar 16, 2010, 4:46 AM**

Nice catch, Deasine. I had no idea that Ritz was owned by Marriott. Until I read your post, my theory was that Marriott would probably launch a new Renaissance Hotel (another of their upscale brands). But the Ritz could very well still be it.

SpongeG · #**1017** Posted: **Mar 16, 2010, 6:10 AM**

too bad its not a W

Rusty Gull · #**1018** Posted: **Mar 16, 2010, 6:15 AM**

^Can you elaborate? Why W? It's a boutique hotel aimed at well-to-do hipsters. That's hardly the crowd, or the market, that would be ideal for that building/location.

Ritz is perfect for the Turn tower.

johnjimbc · #**1019** Posted: **Mar 16, 2010, 6:43 AM**

W tends to aim for more, how shall we say, "very well-heeled" hipsters

. The W Hotels in New York are really incredible places, and though they consider themselves boutique, they certainly aren't small hotels. I don't think it would be that much of a stretch to see them at a location like the Turn. In fact, they don't open a hotel unless they secure a premier location. They looked at the DC market forever, but held out until they were able to purchase and fully renovate a heritage building less than a block from the White House.

In fact my favourite hotel lobby of any place I've ever stayed, including some luxurious hotels and full-scale resorts, is the original W New York: http://www.starwoodhotels.com/whotel...opertyID=97502.

The photos don't really do it justice (they're trying to be too clever and artsy with the pics). It wasn't the largest lobby and didn't have the grandest or most upscale interior design. But what it did have is a space and style that just works. The interior was like a Frank Lloyd Wright design with a twist, resulting in a surprisingly warm atmosphere. The space had vaulted ceilings, a sleek but cozy two-sided fireplace, and huge windows looking out onto a lively, typical Manhattan street-scape. Whenever I used to go to NYC from DC, I'd spend hours there . . . working, reading, or just soaking up the atmosphere. It was a great people-friendly space . . . an effortless, comfortable haven where you could chat, eat tapas, drink, or just hang out by yourself and read a book. I've rarely seen a public space that felt so comfortable and upscale at the same time.

I don't tend to think the west coast W Hotels live up to the standard of the east coast ones. I was actually rather disappointed in the San Francisco W. The Seattle W is ok, but it seemed to lack some of the style of the ones back east. But most carry themselves quite well. I think it would be great if they found a home somewhere in the heart of Vancouver.

Rusty Gull · #**1020** Posted: **Mar 16, 2010, 6:54 AM**

^ Agreed with everything you said. But I would rather see the W in a renovated heritage building on Granville Street, or in Yaletown, then in the Turn Tower.

I really think the Turn should be for a 5-star premium global business hotel brand such as Ritz, Four Seasons, or Mandarin Oriental.