Downtown Vancouver Updates - Page 340

Yume-sama · #**6781** Posted: **Oct 24, 2010, 6:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by leftside

A lot of the locals DO want it. I'd be very happy to see the Carnegie Center revamped into a high end condo project. Would love to see the reaction of the "activists" to that

I'd be surprised if most of the so called activists were DTES residents.

And the people they seem to represent, who live in a cardboard box in the alley on a pile of used needles, can't really be considered residents.

How can you, on one hand, hold up the DTES as one of the worst places in the World, and then object to anything that is meant to clean it up...

I mean, other than the fact they'd have to find a new victim to exploit if the DTES was clean.

jsbertram · #**6782** Posted: **Oct 24, 2010, 9:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by jlousa

I agree if it's changed to a L-shaped lane the trailers won't be able to make the turn, but I'm not so sure if they were to T-Shape it, that it wouldn't work. You could have the the trucks turn in via Richards and exit via Homer or vice versa and load next to the Centre instead of behind it.

I seem to remember from the drawings for The Capitol there was a new truck loading dock included so that tour trucks for The Orpheum shows as well as commercial trucks for The Capitol would use the alley & park in the new loading docks, rather than load in & load out with the trucks parked on Seymour beside the Orpheum as they are doing right now. From the drawings I saw, the 'back stage' of the Orpheum has been extended into the main floor of The Capitol to make the Orpheum more flexible for handling touring shows.

jlousa · #**6783** Posted: **Oct 25, 2010, 2:40 PM**

Forgot to mention it but the Budget lot at Pender and Abbott is now closed. A paper on the door says closed for renovations but their signs has been painted over. Not sure if they will reopen, perhaps Salient/Hungerford will start sooner rather then later.
Mind you there is a gas pump on site so it's possible that they will just remove it and begin environmental remediation and allow Budget back until it's complete temporarily.

phesto · #**6784** Posted: **Oct 26, 2010, 9:16 PM**

The Pattison site was on the news this morning:

http://www.globaltvbc.com/video/index.html

SpongeG · #**6785** Posted: **Oct 26, 2010, 10:01 PM**

did anyone catch the story about st pauls on global news on the weekend?

they are gonna knock down part of it and put up - i think it was/is a 10 story twoer? the building on the north side i think is getting demolished and the hospital is getting more work done

Yume-sama · #**6786** Posted: **Oct 26, 2010, 10:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by phesto

The Pattison site was on the news this morning:

http://www.globaltvbc.com/video/index.html

Kinda looks like it was hit by a bomb already.

SpongeG · #**6787** Posted: **Oct 27, 2010, 12:11 AM**

Future of St. Paul's Hospital becoming clearer
Providence Health Care comes up with a draft plan

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - The group fighting to keep St. Paul's hospital in the West End is pleased with some plans for what the revitalized hospital could look like.

Providence Health Care has presented a draft concept plan, worth between $300 and $500 million , that could be finalized by January.

That plan includes a ten-story 200,000 square-foot tower on the corner of Comox and Thurlow, then a possible second phase with a 540,000 square-foot building. The heritage part of the building facing Burrard would stay intact.

Aaron Jasper from The Save St. Paul's Hospital Coalition says Providence seems to be receptive to public input. "They said that they will not be going to the government with their concept plan without it being vetted by the public at large."

He does say the time line is fairly aggressive. "They want to have the concept plan done, and vetted, and signed off by January of 2011."

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http://www.news1130.com/news/local/a...coming-clearer

jsbertram · #**6788** Posted: **Oct 27, 2010, 12:47 AM**

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Originally Posted by phesto

The Pattison site was on the news this morning:

http://www.globaltvbc.com/video/index.html

That story package was on the 5 pm news too, so will likely make it into the 6 pm and 11 pm today (Tues 26th), for those of you who want to TIVO or tape it.

(Global Vancouver; Shaw Cable 11)

Locked In · #**6789** Posted: **Oct 27, 2010, 4:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by SpongeG

Future of St. Paul's Hospital becoming clearer
Providence Health Care comes up with a draft plan

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - The group fighting to keep St. Paul's hospital in the West End is pleased with some plans for what the revitalized hospital could look like.

Providence Health Care has presented a draft concept plan, worth between $300 and $500 million , that could be finalized by January.

That plan includes a ten-story 200,000 square-foot tower on the corner of Comox and Thurlow, then a possible second phase with a 540,000 square-foot building. The heritage part of the building facing Burrard would stay intact.

Aaron Jasper from The Save St. Paul's Hospital Coalition says Providence seems to be receptive to public input. "They said that they will not be going to the government with their concept plan without it being vetted by the public at large."

He does say the time line is fairly aggressive. "They want to have the concept plan done, and vetted, and signed off by January of 2011."

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http://www.news1130.com/news/local/a...coming-clearer

Interesting. I wonder what plan B is for the Station Street site.

LeftCoaster · #**6790** Posted: **Oct 28, 2010, 2:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by jlousa

481K sqft on only 19floors is a very large floorplate.
They are still missing an office tower though.

They are missing a few by my count...

dleung · #**6791** Posted: **Oct 28, 2010, 3:41 AM**

So what became of this proposal for st paul's?

http://www.stevevbc.ca/panorama/pani...ardver0707.jpg

Or the campus in the False creek flats?

http://www.stevevbc.ca/panorama/pani...eetver0707.jpg

Skook · #**6792** Posted: **Oct 28, 2010, 4:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by jlousa

I don't expect it to advance anytime soon, but it won't be too out of place height wise, there will be other similar height buildings near by. Site 2 seems to be the furthermost along at this point in time.

Yikes! How far along do you think site 2 might be? It will ruin my currently quite awesome view and possibly make my condo harder to sell!

officedweller · #**6793** Posted: **Oct 28, 2010, 4:54 AM**

I think that (#2) was one of the ones that was farther along...

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WRT St. Paul's, the news said that an older admin building would be the first to be demolished - and apparently it is loacted on the righthand side of that first pic behind the heritage block.

jlousa · #**6794** Posted: **Oct 28, 2010, 4:59 AM**

I don't believe you will see an application until after the HAHR is completed, so earliest I'd predict is sometime in the spring. Mind you it could be years later it's all up to the developer.

LeftCoaster · #**6795** Posted: **Oct 28, 2010, 8:02 AM**

Regarding the Pattison site, it is of a completely different design to the prelim sketches i saw a couple years ago, and the project scale has expanded greatly. The previous plans showed the one tower at roughly wall centre height, but with a much shorter second tower and no third tower. The towers were eliptical in shape and both fronted Drake.

This proposal seems much better than its innitial stages, and expect it to get better once the UDP gets their hands on it. They wont let a signature tower like this one get by with a bland design.

Hed Kandi · #**6796** Posted: **Oct 28, 2010, 3:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Regarding the Pattison site, it is of a completely different design to the prelim sketches i saw a couple years ago, and the project scale has expanded greatly. The previous plans showed the one tower at roughly wall centre height, but with a much shorter second tower and no third tower. The towers were eliptical in shape and both fronted Drake.

This proposal seems much better than its innitial stages, and expect it to get better once the UDP gets their hands on it. They wont let a signature tower like this one get by with a bland design.

Hah! I'd like to believe your conjetcure but looking at the UDP's past track record of approvals (Shangri La, Capitol, Patina, etc), I won't hold my breath for anything innovative.

privatejet · #**6797** Posted: **Oct 28, 2010, 3:25 PM**

From the Straight article on Burrard Gateway:

In addition, Stovell said that Amacon plans to redevelop the Commercial Electronics site at 1305 Burrard Street.

http://www.straight.com/article-3547...de-art-gallery

Prometheus · #**6798** Posted: **Oct 28, 2010, 3:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

This proposal seems much better than its innitial stages, and expect it to get better once the UDP gets their hands on it. They wont let a signature tower like this one get by with a bland design.

You just refuse to get it.

As you have been reminded many times, the UDP is famous for its aversion to boldness and originality. (Even the current chair Bruce Haden admits this fact.)

For the last two decades the UDP has had the final say on all architecture in Vancouver. The blandness and monotony that we now see all around us exist not in spite of the UDP, but because of it. It is precisely the UDP that we have to thank for the modern term 'Blandcouver.'

It's time to step out of your fantasy world.

PaperTiger · #**6799** Posted: **Oct 28, 2010, 4:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by Prometheus

You just refuse to get it.

As you have been reminded many times, the UDP is famous for its aversion to boldness and originality. (Even the current chair Bruce Haden admits this fact.)

For the last two decades the UDP has had the final say on all architecture in Vancouver. The blandness and monotony that we now see all around us exist not in spite of the UDP, but because of it. It is precisely the UDP that we have to thank for the modern term 'Blandcouver.'

It's time to step out of your fantasy world.

Prometheus YOU just don't get it. The sure if we didn’t have the UDP we might have one or two “innovative” buildings , but we would have vastly more buildings that are absolute shit. As a society we said we would rather have a city made up of buildings that are pretty decent, rather than a couple of standouts in a sea of awful.

If you think that people are just itching to come in to Vancouver and give us a fantasmagorical architectural utopia al a the “Designs to inspire Vancouver” thread.

It's time to step out of YOUR fantasy world.

LeftCoaster · #**6800** Posted: **Oct 28, 2010, 4:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Prometheus

You just refuse to get it.

I'm not even going to waste my time...

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Originally Posted by Hed Kandi

Hah! I'd like to believe your conjetcure but looking at the UDP's past track record of approvals (Shangri La, Capitol, Patina, etc), I won't hold my breath for anything innovative.

Hed I agree some buildings have gotten past that were quite shoddy, but none this tall. I disagree that Shangri-La is a poor btw. It may not be innovative or futuristic, but it looks great from most angles and all in all works quite well... I wish I could say the same for Capitol or Patina, Patina especially.

I think this building will see changes based off what happened to The Ritz. This is the tallest building proposed since the Ritz, and as we all know we have the UDP to thank for the current (still unused) design of the RC. I think this being such a prominent building they will demand more than the status quo... keep in mind Patina and Capitol really arent that tall, no bigger than the mark or West one.