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Old Posted Oct 30, 2007, 12:31 AM
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17 Ewen Road | ? | 10 fl | Approved

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Proposed student housing project that's in the works. Proposed location is in West Hamilton close to McMaster University and across from Fortinos (supermarket). During an open house meeting some of the neighbours complained about the height of the building. So it's off to a rough start.
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neighbours?? have you been to this site??
there are no neighbours (unless Cadbury/Trebor Allen and some other factory count as 'neighbours')
check out the aerial shot looking straight down...there's not a single house in sight.
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^^ There are "neighbours"... they just don't live by here.
They buy a small house, tear it up like crazy in order to fit as many students in at once and charge them up the *** to stay there for the year.

They're most likely "protesting" as this new high-density bldg would possibly take away from their cash grab.

Here's hoping it gets built and that the design gets a lot better (looks like this render was done by a HS Student on AutoCad hehe)
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Yah theres a lot of student housing in that area already. I have friends that live on Rifle Range who go to Mac. Very beautiful area though...
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I was referring to the fact that they are surrounded by light industry, not residential.
there aren't any homes that will probably even be able to see this building.
You probably right - complaints were from those not wanting to lose their tenants.
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sounds like the new version of this building is going to move forward.
it's 10 stories now and has setbacks beginning at floor 7.

more info can be seen www.brianmchattie.ca , under "issues".
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That approval be given to Official Plan Amendment Application OPA-07-016, Auburn Developments Inc. (Jamie Crich), Owner, for Amendment No. to the City of Hamilton Official Plan for changes in designations on Schedule “A” - Land Use Concept of the City of Hamilton Official Plan from “Industrial” to “Residential”, and to remove the lands from Schedule “B” - Special Policy Area of the City of Hamilton Official Plan, and on Schedule “N1” Land Use Plan, of the Ainslie Wood Secondary Plan in the City of Hamilton Official Plan from “Industrial” to “High Density Residential”, to permit a 10 storey multiple residential building, intended for the purpose of student accommodations, on lands located at 17 Ewen Road (Hamilton),
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The proposal would consist of a 10 storey purpose built student apartment building, providing approximately 150 units. The subject lands has frontage on both Rifle Range Road and Ewen Road, with access to the building provided from Rifle Range Road. A total of 195 parking spaces will be provided in two levels of underground parking (166 spaces) and surface parking (29 spaces). No access to the site is proposed from Ewen Road.
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Any mention of LEED certification? The West Village condos on Main are platinum certified. It's a big selling feature and really sets the standard in purpose built student accommodation in this area. If I were a parent helping my kid choose a residence, there'd be no contest.

http://www.westvillagesuites.ca/leed...its/index.html
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This proposal has massive opposition from the West end. It should be interesting when it goes to council for approval.
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Any mention of LEED certification?
No LEED cerification for this proposal.
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No LEED cerification for this proposal.
Not smart on the developer's part. That's one of the reason's it's being opposed, although far from the main one, but going for a LEED certification would have been a conciliatory move to the community, and made it harder to demonize the project.
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The community seems to oppose this mainly because:

Not enough parking
Taking green space away
It's geared towards students
Building is too tall
Wind/Sun issue

Each owner in this building would get a parking spot, yet how many students you know that live nearby McMaster drive to McMaster? The parking ratio is higher for this proposal than the 100 Main St W building.

The land is currently zoned commercial and not green space.

Not all students are bad and unruly.

The community seems to support a 7 storey building and it looks like the setback on this building is at the 7th floor. A good compromise to me.

The proposed building is surrounded by a candy factory, warehouses and retail.
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The lack of LEED certification was one of the criticisms listed in an earlier written objection to this proposal by the neighbourhood association.

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yet how many students you know that live nearby McMaster drive to McMaster?
A depressingly large number, I can assure you. Not that they should be enabled by an over-abundance of parking.

I support this development overall, but then I don't have to live in it's shadow. The developers seem to have made some concessions by reducing the height from 12 to 10 floors and creating the setback, but I think it's very unfortunate that they aren't going for a LEED certification. It would have gone a long way to sweetening the deal.
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Looks like a good location to me...would also encourage further redevelopment of the west end too...
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Bratina: Mac ‘too big,’ needs downtown campus

April 22, 2009
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http://www.thespec.com/News/BreakingNews/article/553005

Hamilton Councillor Bob Bratina calls McMaster University “an unwieldy leviathan ruining everything around it.”

Mac is a “university that has grown way too big on its site,” Bratina said in commenting on a private developer’s bid to build a 10-storey apartment tower to house 600 students between Rifle Range and Ewen roads south of Main Street West.

“There’s nothing we can do but allow Mac to continue creating a huge nuisance for the neighbourhood,” the downtown councillor told other members of city council’s economic development and planning committee Tuesday.

Councillor Brian McHattie, who represents the area, said: “Certainly Councillor Bratina’s comments are warranted. I have had meetings encouraging McMaster to set up a downtown undergraduate campus.”

West Mountain Councillor Terry Whitehead, who has complaints about student housing around Mohawk College, said he agrees with both Bratina and McHattie and thinks the city should encourage other universities to locate downtown if McMaster isn’t interested in expanding its presence there.

Action on the Ewen Road rezoning — opposed by hundreds of area residents as well as the neighbouring Cadbury Adams candy plant — was postponed for a month to wait for a noise report and give the applicant, Auburn Developments of London, Ont., time to meet with Cadbury Adams.

Auburn wants to build 150 four-bedroom apartments on the site of an empty warehouse that was once a bar catering to students. The property runs through the block between Fortinos parking lot on the east and the Hydro One right-of-way to the west.

Chris Pigeon of GSP Group said Auburn, which has similar projects in Montreal and London, would offer social activities for its tenants and tight security for both students and the surrounding neighbourhood.

The Ainslie Wood-Westdale Community Association of Resident Homeowners raised concerns about parking and the building’s height.

Former alderman Mary Kiss, representing another group, questioned the need for more student housing, loss of industrial land and neighbourhood compatibility.

James Ayres, a lawyer for Cadbury Adams, which employs 350 at the long-established plant, said the company is already trying to resolve noise complaints that would only increase with a high-rise residential building next door. He argued Auburn should have to prove its development would be compatible.
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Won't having 600 students there be 600 less students living in single family homes in Ainslie Wood?

Frankly Bratina's quote is somewhat annoying. What other organization in Hamilton is adding well paying jobs. Certainly not Stelco or Dofasco.
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Won't having 600 students there be 600 less students living in single family homes in Ainslie Wood?
I know. I don't get it. They complain about student houses in the neighbourhoods, then when a solution comes along, they oppose it. I hope this goes through.

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Frankly Bratina's quote is somewhat annoying. What other organization in Hamilton is adding well paying jobs. Certainly not Stelco or Dofasco.
Over-building is over-building no matter how many jobs it's providing. The Westdale campus has been built up way beyond its carrying capacity, and Mac has been allowed to download all the attendant parking, housing, truck traffic, and policing problems onto the surrounding neighbourhoods. They're always excused because of the jobs, indirect economic spin offs, or whatever else they're supposed to provide. No one dares to acknowledge the huge downside in quality of life due to their lack of planning, or the fact that they don't contribute to the tax base.
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Won't having 600 students there be 600 less students living in single family homes in Ainslie Wood?
Only if MAC doesn't increase enrollment by 600.
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