Originally Posted by edluva
this is a useless discussion. every place near a metro stop could be walkable if we had a rail network that was accessible for daily life, rather than a network built to serve imaginary commutes from azusa to culver city at 25mph
go to tokyo. do you think that city needs wide sidewalks and dedicated mixed use developments to be walkable? sure enormous tod's dot the landscape but they're tod's because of transit. still much of the city flat out lacks sidewalks altogether and yet it's plenty "4d".
it's the transit, stupid. the fact remains, the average angeleno could not build their daily life around our pathetic rail "network"; hence our city is not truly walkable.
I disagree. Yes, we need more transit. But good urban design is just as important. Give people places where the sidewalk is wide, where traffic is calmed and not rushing by, and where there are plenty of storefronts curbside, where there's a pocket park or two, and people will walk around the area
. The success of places like Old Town Pasadena, 3rd Street Promanade, not to mention the "fake" but well-urban-designed (at least from the inside) places like the Americana and the Grove shows the massive demand these walkable places in LA. And last time I checked, with the exception of Pasadena, the places I listed do not yet have nearby Metro stations. The benefit that a fully-built-out Metro system brings is that many people would be riding the train to these places rather than driving there.
Downtown has it all- good urban design (although some of those sidewalks could be wider), lots of Metro stations (and plans for many more), and increasing number of active storefronts that give people a reason to want to walk around. But plenty of other places in LA have the potential to be smaller, but just as walkable places if the city could just get its shit together with street design. Silverlake and Echo Park for example, would be much more appealing places if Sunset wasn't a 5-lane mini freeway, and if the sidewalks more more than the narrow strips they currently are.