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Old Posted: Dec 11, 2007, 1:46 AM
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Longshore unions challenge federal waterfront security clearance program

Temporary security exemption stops port shutdown
Vancouver longshore unions challenge federal waterfront security clearance program
ANDREW PETROZZI
[Business in Vancouver; Dec. 11-17th issue]

Port of Vancouver terminal operators narrowly avoided another work disruption this weekend after a Transport Canada exemption delayed implementation of the Marine Transportation Security Clearance Program.
The program’s first phase, which was scheduled to come into effect December 15, requires terminal employees to have Transport Canada security clearance to enter restricted areas. (See “Federal government pumps millions into B.C. port security” – BIV 891; November 21-27, 2006.)

The security clearance will require:

•workers to undergo a criminal record check;
•a check of the relevant files of law enforcement agencies;
•a CSIS indices check and, if necessary, a CSIS security assessment;
and
•a check of an applicant’s immigration and citizenship status.

But thus far, International Longshore & Warehouse Union (ILWU) locals, which represent more than 5,000 workers at the Port of Vancouver, have refused to participate in the security clearance application process. They have instead launched a constitutional challenge to the legislation in B.C. Supreme Court.
The temporary exemption order, which was issued late on November 30, is set to expire February 20, 2008.
Anne McMullin, the Vancouver Port Authority’s director of corporate communications, said the exemption was provided to allow for outstanding issues to be settled.

The two primary challenges include:

•The ILWU locals refused to complete security applications for workers with access to restricted areas within container and cruise facilities in the ports of Vancouver and Fraser River. The British Columbia Maritime Employers Association (BCMEA), which represents waterfront employers, subsequently applied to the Canadian Industrial Relations Board (CIRB) on November 27 seeking a declaration that the refusal amounts to an illegal strike.
A CIRB determination has yet to be made.

•ILWU Local 514, which represents ship and dock foremen, along with foremen Don Brown and Gary Purewal, fi led an October 24 statement of claim in B.C.
Supreme Court against the federal attorney general. It alleges that sections of the Marine Transportation Security Regulations “are unconstitutionally vague and overbroad, give rise to differential treatment on the basis of marital and family status and restrict rights of individuals required to obtain security clearance to associate with various organizations and groups for social, cultural, political, religious and ideological reasons.”

BCMEA president Andy Smith said the attorney general has deferred to the Federal Court of Appeal for a determination on the constitutionality question. He added that because both challenges need to be resolved and more time was required, an exemption was granted.
He confirmed that an interim amended security program will be instituted by terminal operators during the exemption period.
“As far as the security clearances themselves, close to 1,200 of our employees, mostly outside of the ILWU, have been processed,” said Smith.
Metro Vancouver dockworkers are the only group to have challenged the regulations. The ports of Montreal, Halifax and the control centres of the St. Lawrence Seaway Management Corp. are scheduled to adopt the regulations according to schedule.
Port operations in Prince Rupert and Victoria are scheduled to implement them on December 15, 2008.
“As far as I know, there’s nowhere else in North America where there is an issue,” said Smith.
He added that a similar program is underway in the U.S., where, he believes, it has the support of the ILWU and the International Longshoremen’s Association.
When contacted by BIV, ILWU Local 514 president Frank Scigliano said he had no idea about any legal action before the courts.
“But if you got a story, you must have a story,” he said before hanging up. •
apetrozzi@biv.com

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Old Posted: Dec 11, 2007, 3:33 AM
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•workers to undergo a criminal record check;
•a check of the relevant files of law enforcement agencies;
•a CSIS indices check and, if necessary, a CSIS security assessment;
and
•a check of an applicant’s immigration and citizenship status.
What exactly is unreasonable here?? I would think anybody having any type of security clearance should have these checks performed...it's not like they are asking for drug testing or a DNA sample.
If they don't want to do it, fire them and find new people until they agree...
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Old Posted: Dec 11, 2007, 4:09 PM
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What exactly is unreasonable here?? I would think anybody having any type of security clearance should have these checks performed...it's not like they are asking for drug testing or a DNA sample.
If they don't want to do it, fire them and find new people until they agree...
its unreasonable because a good chunk of the people have strong connections to organized crime and iffy people, good chunk of the people themselves are on the iffy side. Fire them and watch what happens as the ports crawl to a stop. Personally I didnt think this would ever make this far but now that the goverment is insisting that this is only aimed at terrorism related matters and not, am, our homegrown organized crime, drug smuggling and the shadiness of the individuals working on the docks. looks like a couple more sacrifices and background checks might actually become a reality.
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Old Posted: Dec 11, 2007, 7:33 PM
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What exactly is unreasonable here?? I would think anybody having any type of security clearance should have these checks performed...it's not like they are asking for drug testing or a DNA sample.
If they don't want to do it, fire them and find new people until they agree...
Exactly.
Don't we expect the airport people to have the same security checks?
And we wonder why there's so much crime in the city? The ports are a porus border, the Yanks were right to worry about the Canadian side of the border into North America, and everybody is scared to fix it because the unions are so powerful and have the best lawyers that they perpetuate the situation.

Where's Ronald Regan when you need him? Fire the lot of them, and give the jobs to good, solid, upstanding people willing to work hard for their pay. Pay them really well, and ban them from unionising! Or call in the National Guard!
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Old Posted: Dec 12, 2007, 3:07 AM
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Exactly.
Don't we expect the airport people to have the same security checks?
And we wonder why there's so much crime in the city? The ports are a porus border, the Yanks were right to worry about the Canadian side of the border into North America, and everybody is scared to fix it because the unions are so powerful and have the best lawyers that they perpetuate the situation.

Where's Ronald Regan when you need him? Fire the lot of them, and give the jobs to good, solid, upstanding people willing to work hard for their pay. Pay them really well, and ban them from unionising! Or call in the National Guard!
wonder why you have this wierd perception of crime? anyways they already make good money and they have every right to negotiate over a change in their legally binding contract. personally i dont really see the point in having criminal record checks on longshorman, after all there is a reason there are security, rcmp and border patrol present at the ports. this is all just a waste of everyones time and accomplishes nothing. i mean why dont we do criminal record checks on everyone, construction workers, bus drivers, engineers etc. at some point there needs to be a line drawn and i dont think there is any reason what so ever to do criminal record checks on longshorman, its total bullshit. after all there are no criminal record checks for truck drivers, cn/cp workers, warehouse staff at the place i work etc. and guess what all these people handle bonded freight, freight that has not cleared customs while longshorman are infact much much less involeved then all these poeple.. if some of you knew how our ports work then you would realize that this is total crap. im a bit tired and dont want to get in to it but yeah vanman mentioned he works on the docks so maybe he could shed some light.

again this whole criminal record checks for longshorman is bs to appease the ignorant public.
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Old Posted: Dec 13, 2007, 1:27 AM
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Where's Ronald Regan when you need him? Fire the lot of them, and give the jobs to good, solid, upstanding people willing to work hard for their pay. Pay them really well, and ban them from unionising! Or call in the National Guard!
Are you kidding me???? You clearly have no idea of the history behind the ports and why there was such a need for unionization to begin with.
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its unreasonable because a good chunk of the people have strong connections to organized crime and iffy people, good chunk of the people themselves are on the iffy side. Fire them and watch what happens as the ports crawl to a stop. Personally I didnt think this would ever make this far but now that the goverment is insisting that this is only aimed at terrorism related matters and not, am, our homegrown organized crime, drug smuggling and the shadiness of the individuals working on the docks. looks like a couple more sacrifices and background checks might actually become a reality.
This is precisely what I was thinking. My grandfather was a longshoreman in Vancouver and he told me that organized crime has deep connections inside our ports. Even those that are not directly involved would often look the other way for a little money or simply out of loyalty to their fellow workers.

The government needs to continue pushing this matter forward, albeit with some finesse rather than simple brute force.
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Old Posted: Dec 14, 2007, 12:49 AM
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errr.....i hope this doesn't end up with Canada playing chicken again. if the union is opposed to this, then there are really issues here.
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