Originally Posted by plinko
While I find the form of the tower pretty interesting, I'm disappointed to see that the curtain wall reads more as deconstructivist cake decoration than an actual structural statement (read: Beijing CCTV HQ by Rem).
Still...nice tower. How tall is the other topped out condo tower nearby? 150m?
i think there is no comparison with the CCTV, but to me, its still a great designed tower... we will see how its finished...
the height of the taller building you say, is not official yet, while in the web page the developer says one thing, people involved on the project has said another... it goes from 173m to 182m...
Originally Posted by Crawford
This is all far from downtown, in a wealthy suburb on the western fringes of Guadalajara.
Basically all of Guadalajara's wealth and highrises are west of downtown, with 60's and 70's-era highrises in the neighborhoods just west of downtown (sorta urban inner suburbs in an area called Minerva) and this very new impressive cluster of highrises on the furthest western urban fringe. In fact, there is no development further to the west, because there is an almost Grand Canyon-like trench separating the sprawl from the countryside.
I was shocked when I first saw this area. You drive down a highway past Burger Kings and 7-11s and suddenly these sliver towers rise out of nowhere like a mirage. In addition to the highrises, they are building a very high-end shopping center and some cool modernist lowrise apartments. I have heard the claim that Guadalajara's per capita income is second highest in Latin America (I think Monterrey is first), so, if true, we are talking a city with a higher per capita income than Buenos Aires, Sao Paulo, Santiago, or Mexico City.
The problem with this area is that there's no context. It's just highrises in the middle of nowhere, kinda like a mini-Dubai. There's some upscale country clubs, a park, a zoo, and some wealthy suburban neighborhoods and highways that look like Southern California, but there's no urban context.
If you know Mexico City, this neighborhood is the equivalent of Santa Fe, a bigger version on the western edge of the capital. Like Santa Fe, the advantage of this edge city is that it has the cleanest air in the city. Neighborhoods in the East and South of Guadalajara have bad winter smog, and Mexico City is much worse.
When I visit Guadalajara for work, I stay next to the Plaza del Sol, which is an older shopping center and "Edge City" closer to downtown. It's semi-walkable and has some urban context.
Downtown Guadalajara is quite historic and beautiful (and is IMO much more interesting), but it has little wealth and no highrises.
good description... i'd like to add, that there is development near this area, the thing is that you have some wealthy areas with big houses and i think there is too much space between them, and like you say too much available space too... it is in one part the edge of the city, but at the same time there are many neighborhoods, in fact, to the right side of the pictures, you have the begining of the city with more wealthy neighborhoods, and not far from there you have Zapopan downtown, wich is an old town... you have a big park, Colomos Park... so its not that lonely place...
Guadalajara has some buildings but not very tall, these are the tallest, but the older ones are all sprawl in the city... so this is the newest cluster... along with the Country Club area, with smaller residentials, but a nice area, probably getting a residential twin towers project around 45 floors...
Originally Posted by gttx
This building looks fantastic. It's news to me - and very interesting - that Guadalajara is building high-rises. Hopefully they start to fill more in at street level and create some urbanity in these high-wealth areas.
Guadalajara is living a boom since 4 years ago, as well as some other cities in Mexico, mostly Mexico City...
there are many projects coming, planning, etc...
ill be posting some of them, and some of them as you see, are finished, and you can find them in the mexican forum, unfortnally for some of you its oonly in spanish, thats why i want to bring here some of the best projects...
and as i was saying, this area is in some way new, with all these buildings and projects..