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'Conspiracy of silence' on tarsands, group says

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What about this, eh?
Could this not become an election issue?

'Conspiracy of silence' on tarsands, group says
Updated Fri. Feb. 15 2008 9:14 PM ET

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A new report accuses the federal government of allowing Alberta's tarsands to become "the most destructive project on earth".

The study was commissioned by Environmental Defence, a health organization, and features satellite imagery of the vast project.

Alberta's tarsands are second only to Saudi Arabia as the world's largest oil reserve.

"The enormous toxics problems go hand-in-hand with massive global warming pollution and the impending destruction of a boreal forest the size of Florida," the report says in its introduction.

Group spokesperson Matt Price blames Ottawa for failing to enforce federal environmental laws.

"I think there's sort of a conspiracy of silence, especially on the part of the federal government, with regards to the tar sands," Price said, "because there's an agenda to expand it dramatically over the next 10 to 15 years."

The report says the federal government needs to address environmental concerns ranging from greenhouse gases and cancer levels, to polluted water.

It also estimates that greenhouse gas emissions from the tarsands are likely to grow enough by 2020 to completely offset Ontario's planned emissions cuts.

Effects the report says are already being noticed:

Toxic pollution from the tarsands has created what amounts to a slow motion oil spill in the region's river systems, and could be worse than the Exxon Valdez oil spill.
First Nations living downstream are already seeing deformed pickerel and walleye in Lake Athabasca.
Game animals are being found covered with tumours and mutations.
In humans, unusual cancers and autoimmune diseases have been cropping up in the community of Fort Chipewyan.
The report says that instead of properly managing the tarsands, government has "outsourced" monitoring to the industry, "creating a classic situation of the fox guarding the henhouse."

This isn't the first such report on the oilsands industry. In 2006, The World Wildlife Fund Canada's warned that the expansion of the industry was threatening Canadian freshwater reserves.

The report on water resources also warned that even a small amount of global warming could have a dire impact on flows in bodies such as the Great Lakes and Athabasca River.
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Funny, I just read a similar article about the auto manafucturing business in Ontario...


'Conspiracy of silence' on auto manufactures,, group says
Updated Fri. Feb. 15 2008 9:14 PM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

A new report accuses the federal government of allowing Ontario's auto makers to continue to be "the most destructive project on earth".

The study was commissioned by Environmental Defence, a health organization, and features satellite imagery of the vast plants.

Ontario's auto plants are second only to Michigan as the world's largest auto manufactures.

"The enormous toxics problems go hand-in-hand with massive global warming pollution. The materials used to produce vehicles, and waste that is left over creates a huge toxic problem" the report says in its introduction.

Group spokesperson Matt Price blames Ottawa for failing to enforce federal environmental laws.

"I think there's sort of a conspiracy of silence, especially on the part of the federal government, with regards to the auto manafactures," Price said, "because these manafactures employ so many Canadians."

The report says the federal government needs to address environmental concerns ranging from greenhouse gases and cancer levels, to polluted water.

Effects the report says are already being noticed:

Toxic pollution from the Auto Manufactures has created what amounts to a slow motion oil spill in the region's river system and lakes, and has already killed many plants and spices in the Great Lakes.

First Nations living around there already seeing deformed pickerel and walleye in Lake Ontario, and other Great Lakes.

Game animals are being found covered with tumours and mutations.
In humans, unusual cancers and autoimmune diseases have been cropping up in the many communities in Southern Ontario.
The report says that instead of properly managing the Auto Manufactures, and the sub industry below them, the government has "outsourced" monitoring to the industry, "creating a classic situation of the fox guarding the henhouse."

This isn't the first such report on the auto industry. In 2006, The World Wildlife Fund Canada's warned that the expansion of the industry was threatening Canadian freshwater reserves.

The report on water resources also warned that even a small amount of global warming could have a dire impact on flows in bodies such as the Great Lakes and St Lawrence River.
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Obviously the environmental impact of tar sands extraction is a huge concern, but I just love how so many people in Ontario act like big bad Alberta is destroying the planet, while the perfect stewards of the environment commute from Hamilton to Toronto in a Ford Expedition
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This is not going to be pretty...ack. Should be entertaining though.
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I nominate this as the Canadian Thread of the Month!
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Obviously the environmental impact of tar sands extraction is a huge concern, but I just love how so many people in Ontario act like big bad Alberta is destroying the planet, while the perfect stewards of the environment commute from Hamilton to Toronto in a Ford Expedition
this bares repeating a million times.
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this bares repeating a million times.
Okay, so both the Ontario auto industry and Alberta tar sands are bad for the environment. Happy?

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Obviously the environmental impact of tar sands extraction is a huge concern, but I just love how so many people in Ontario act like big bad Alberta is destroying the planet, while the perfect stewards of the environment commute from Hamilton to Toronto in a Ford Expedition
If you think the same people concerned about the environment are the ones driving those Ford explorers 90 minutes each way on a daily commute, I don't know what to say to you.
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while the perfect stewards of the environment commute from Hamilton to Toronto in a Ford Expedition
how about the ones that dont drive?
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how about the ones that dont drive?
keep up the good work!
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All this batering between the Albertans and Ontarioans has got to stop now! When yuou analyse and dissect history you realize that we are ALL Quebecers so lets put our feelings aside and dance some riggodon!
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i aint no god damn quebecker. im not even white. what an insult..
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I may have some french in my blood, but god damn, my family has NEVER lived in Quebec. Thankfully.
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I may have some french in my blood, but god damn, my family has NEVER lived in Quebec. Thankfully.
Are you type à, á, or ô?
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Obviously the environmental impact of tar sands extraction is a huge concern, but I just love how so many people in Ontario act like big bad Alberta is destroying the planet, while the perfect stewards of the environment commute from Hamilton to Toronto in a Ford Expedition



wait till the mining is done what are we going to do with the tailings ponds?
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Well, I get it. Alberta creates new lakes to polluted which eventually drains in to rivers after being cleaned up as much as, and Ontario just mucks up existing ones, with little re-course to where that shit goes. I see the difference now!

Man, from that picture, it would seem all that area in black is just one big mine!
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