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Old Posted Mar 5, 2015, 9:09 PM
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MIAMI | American Dream (Largest U.S. Mall) | FT | FLOORS

Massive retail theme park proposed for Northwest Miami-Dade

FOR RENDERINGS: Refer to the cleaner ones on post #5 and #9.

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The company behind the largest mall in America wants to build an even larger one in northwestern Miami-Dade with a massive, 200-acre entertainment complex with submarine rides, a Legoland, sea lions and simulated ski slopes.

Tentatively titled American Dream Miami, the project at the intersection of Florida’s Turnpike and Interstate 75 in could cost as much as $4 billion to construct and probably become the largest private employer in Miami-Dade.

Developer Triple Five is the company behind Minnesota’s Mall of America, the largest shopping center in the world. County officials say the one planned for a site northwest of Miami Lakes would be the largest in Triple Five’s portfolio, meaning Miami-Dade could be home to the country’s largest mall.

Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Gimenez on Thursday called the planned theme park the largest economic-development project in the county’s history. A proposal submitted to the county predicts 25,000 construction jobs to build the 200-acre complex, and another 25,000 jobs within the attraction itself. From there, Gimenez said he expects local businesses to enjoy a windfall from the theme park.

“It takes a lot of logistics to keep a thing like that going. All the food, and the mechanical equipment, air-conditioning — there’s going to be a huge spin-off,” he said.

The project arrives as Gimenez is gearing up for reelection in 2016 on a theme of expanding prosperity and economic development. It also comes amid a rising debate over congestion on the county’s roadways, and concerns that existing transit systems already are too meager to serve Miami-Dade’s western corridors.

Two other large proposed tourist attractions, Miami Wilds in the south and SkyRise Miami in the east, are already in the works. Tourist attractions and retail outlets traditionally offering some of the lowest-paid jobs in the economy, so the bulk of the theme park’s payroll won’t consist of well-paying jobs at the top of Miami-Dade’s economic wish list.

“There’s going to be a layer of high-paying jobs” in management, said Sean Snaith, an economist at the University of Central Florida, “but the if you’re talking about people working at stores and running amusement park rides, you’re talking about the typical low-paying tourism jobs you find throughout Florida.”

Gimenez said the planned private investment, with no request for local subsidies or tax breaks, will instantly vault Triple 5 into a top taxpayer, with an estimated $50 million yearly bill. He said the ongoing recovery has left out some of the county’s poorest neighborhoods, and residents there will welcome the new employer.

“There are a lot of folks in this town” who see these as good jobs, Gimenez said. “Everybody is focused on high-paying jobs. Not everybody is qualified for them. Twenty-thousand jobs are twenty-thousand jobs.”

County officials said the site sits within Miami-Dade’s Urban Development Boundary, and will require a standard change in zoning to be approved for a theme park.

Triple 5 is counting on an assemblage of private and state-owned land for the project. Much of the acreage comes from the Graham Companies and is currently farmland, according to county officials. About 80 acres of it is owned by Florida but some of that is leased by the county school system.

Triple 5 would pay $7 million to compensate the school system for waiving its lease, and Miami-Dade would then purchase it from the state, county officials said. Triple Five would pay $11 million for the state land, officials said, with Miami-Dade County acting as a pass-through for the transaction. Florida is declaring the land surplus, and Miami-Dade is using its ability to acquire spare property to secure the site for Triple Five under the county’s economic-development ordinance. Miami-Dade would also act as the conduit for Triple 5’s payment to the school board, officials said.

A proposal obtained by The Miami Herald uses the title “Americana World,” but a source close to the talks said the current working title is American Dream Miami. The glossy pictorial shows a sprawling, enclosed theme park mostly insulated from South Florida’s climate. There’s an artificial ski slope, miniature golf, water park, a skating rink, “Art Deco Village,” water park, and a lake with submarines for rides. It also shows a mini Lego theme park within the complex.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2015, 3:57 AM
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Wow! Wow!! Very cool!!! I am really like it. It's great!!!! They will have a crazy ride.

A new water slide? We didn't realize that. You gonna love it!
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2015, 8:56 AM
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First Russia restarts the cold war, and now we get Jetsons malls with 1960s style advertising. What year is it?
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Simulated ski slopes in Florida? Why tho?
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Updated Herald Rendering and Plan:




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Old Posted Mar 6, 2015, 7:43 PM
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good location
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Looks pretty nice. Minus that Nike rendering, its a pretty awesome proposal. Hope it comes to fruition. Largest mall in the country is good for bragging rights, plus, it will be great for tourism and the local economy. Hopefully once more renderings and possibly videos are released, we can put the whole picture together.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2015, 9:08 PM
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Some cleaner renderings from NextMiami: (Deleted the blurry Miami Herald ones in the first post)










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Will it be located in Miami or New York?
If it is in Miami, why did they put the Manhattan Skyline as background


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Old Posted Mar 6, 2015, 9:54 PM
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Marketing and publicity usually. Not the first time developers have done this. Actually, its done quite frequently. O, and its Miami.
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That's a sanitized rendering of their Nickelodeon themed theme park at MOA in in Minny.

Now, this is sharing the name and much of the concepts of a project that they are in the midst of in New Jersey called American Dream Meadowlands that was the Zanadu project that got stopped in the 08 downturn when the Mills corp went belly up and they got involved with starting it back up in 2010. It's been a real mess as the Giants and Jets fought it tooth and nail to second time around. They are working on it but the big bond issues haven't happened yet. They are also expanding MOA.

It's something they have pulled off in the past and they seem to have a great relationship with retailers. The New Jersey mall doesn't use Nick themed stuff but there's a DreamWorks deal for IPs. If this was someone that hasn't had anything like this I'd write it totally off but there's actual projects that reflect on this outfit.
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Is there any way to get to the site other than an automobile?
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All by car. The location has no rail or anything of that sort. Its right by the edge of the metro or right by the Everglades.

Here is the location: https://www.google.com/maps/search/i.../data=!3m1!1e3

Coordinates: [ 25.9326319,-80.3591457 ]

To get an idea of the scale, refer back to the diagram in post #5, make that the left tab on your screen, and make the aerial map in the link above the coordinates the right side. Now, look at the houses to the right of I-75 . This will be huge.
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Looks like a bigger more modern version of the West Edmonton Mall. Will be very interesting following its progress.
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They should roll this into the PortMiami megaproject. Then you'd have something!
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All by car. The location has no rail or anything of that sort. Its right by the edge of the metro or right by the Everglades.
Same moronic crap they pulled with Sawgrass Mall and Office Depot Center, or whatever it's called now.
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Looks like a bigger more modern version of the West Edmonton Mall. Will be very interesting following its progress.
It will even have sea lions performing shows! Orp! Orp!
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Have fun with that. West Edmonton Mall, their first major mall project, was ripe with promises.

Also, that waterpark picture is a poor photoshop of ours.
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