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  #121  
Old Posted Mar 15, 2008, 7:19 PM
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For decades this city sat with a "crew cut", flat-topped skyline.
Yeah, and who can forget that embarrassing time period when the Philly skyline had a Nike symbol shaved into its scalp.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2008, 7:35 PM
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The Acc's resemblence to the origional freedom tower reminds me of how the freedom tower"s present design is a little like an earlier CC design.
JRDizzy, you hit the nail on the head with that one. I was wondering if anyone else was thinking the same thing.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2008, 7:50 PM
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Photo from Phillyskyline.com, edited by me. Pretty amazing. stickish render.



The picture makes me think: Lib1, and 2 are left out while CC, BA and the new tower hang in another group.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2008, 7:52 PM
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Oh, one more thing, does anyone get the philadelphia business journal? A woman in my office gets it and the front page yesterday had a very cool rendering of the tower. Think about the early renderings of the comcast center from 76 and put ACC there. I'm surprised no one found it and posted it here.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2008, 8:42 PM
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Awesome news... a 1500 ft tower proposal on my birthday

We need a bunch of forumers to do renderings now from every angle of the city...we have over a year to wait.

As far as the design, I dig it.

Weird how it is so close to Comcast and both would/will have so much silver glass.

I wish we would see some green or red tinted glass.
Red would be cooler on a smaller tower..around 500-600 footer. I have a feeling others do not share the same opinion though
Have you seen the building's website where you can watch a little promotional video showing the multicolored glass around the hotel cut-outs? See what you think. As much as I love the mirror-blue glass of Comcast Center, Cira Center and both Liberties, I'd like to see a little more diversity in the skyline, so what do people think about white tinted glass? Can you even get white-tinted glass? Maybe a gray-colored glass would help keep the building looking like the model (which I love btw)? The green certification really needs to be adhered to however, and exterior color alterations will dramatically affect the building's reflectivity and subsequent energy balance. I wonder how the engineers plan to heat and cool the building?

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Old Posted Mar 15, 2008, 10:25 PM
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^ nice, dono

they definitely need to build this thing, although the spire is a tad bit lame. I'd rather something solid white or something (i'm no designer, so don't ask me for ideas), cuz the way its just a jagged extension of the building looks kind of weird. but the huge cutout with multi-colored windows at the base is a must, and so is all this height. I think a city as big and old as Philly deserves a supertall (or four? )
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 15, 2008, 11:04 PM
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Diagram yet?

Is anyone making a diagram yet for this....I checked the Philadelphia diagram page and i didn't see it..it does however appear under the construction and proposed diagram section, but without a picture yet...
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2008, 1:14 AM
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^People didn't even know about this proposal's existence a few days ago.
Anyways I think its a great proposal for Philly. Although, the thick spire seems kinda odd.

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Old Posted Mar 16, 2008, 1:23 AM
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News clip

Here is a youtube video of a local newscast someone made about ACC...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_o69vqJtJRI
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2008, 1:31 AM
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I am still trying to digest the impact of such a supertall mega-structure on Philadelphia's beautiful skyline.

Photos courtesy 6abc.com website

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?se...cal&id=6019618

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/gallery?...019714&photo=1

Pictured is a model of the proposed American Commerce Center.














BTW, Great commentary by Swinefeld on the 6abc website forum. He really gives it to some very ignorant people.

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I just can't post in here without repeating how awesome this is! the spire isn't great but it's not that bad either. plus spire aside, the (roof) top is different from our other talls that either get narrow or are flat topped, this one is sorta both. do we need another spire? eh i'm not complaining.

my wishlist: ACC, BVT, something huge on the girard block, cira south (both phases), mandeville and 1440 chestnut. plus 1601 vine and parkway22 and holy crap! 10 years enough time?

seriously though, anyone think that, once built, this will spur development further west?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2008, 2:30 AM
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I'm a high school senior from the burbs who's going to Drexel next year. I think it's awesome that I'm going to see this beast built from start to finish. I should take a photo every day from the same angle and make a timelapse or something.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2008, 3:19 AM
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Congratulations Philly, that is a very impressive looking tower. I also really like that podium with the huge hole in it. That is going to look very cool from the ground level.
     
     
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I wonder if the hole in the hotel portion is ment to help preserve the views of the neighboring buildings. If so that's pretty thoughtful of the architect and might help diffuse NIMBY opposition.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2008, 3:29 AM
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its so fitting for nyc's younger brother!

build this shit yo!
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2008, 5:09 AM
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scalziand, I'm sure that was some kind of intentional.
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2008, 5:29 AM
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Decent design.

The more I look at it the more it looks almost identical to the Shanghai International Financial Center's second tower (sans spire, of course).





     
     
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2008, 5:34 AM
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scalziand, I'm sure that was some kind of intentional.
The only building whose views are saved is the Sterling and people who live in rental apartments don't normally have much clout.......except it also gives the hotel better views. That is alot of building to shoehorn onto that small plot and Cuthbert st is only a single lane between the two buildings. I guess I'll go ahead and post one too.
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2008, 6:08 AM
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seriously though, anyone think that, once built, this will spur development further west?
I hope so..
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 16, 2008, 6:08 AM
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We seem to be overlooking the big issue on this one:

Will it have an observation deck builted?!?!?!!
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