The Great Canadian Transit Thread - Page 16

whiteford · #**301** Posted: **Oct 23, 2010, 4:23 AM**

i think those trains rock. and there is nothing wrong with them looking like lrt. lrt rocks too. i like lite trains way better than heavy rail. they are nice and petite. which i like. and the cost is affordable in comparison as well. the tracks and bridges cost a fraction of the price when compared to heavy rail.

i would also like to mention, if it hasn't been mentioned already, that the lrt in Calgary is driven by the wind. a very smart move on the city of Calgarys part considering they own that power company itself. that is the sort of thinking that makes a successful system pay. i hope to see more of that all across Canada. lrt is a very useful mode of transit. using wind power also makes it a very green mode of transit. how could you argue against a train system like that.

Nouvellecosse · #**302** Posted: **Oct 23, 2010, 5:39 AM**

Toronto's new trains look better than the old ones since the old ones actually do look like medical containers. But the new ones still look hefty, urban and robust without looking dinky or cheap. Montreal's current trains don't look like metal contains anyway, mainly because they're painted. The new trains don't have the same hefty robust look of the current ones. Reminds me a bit of some of Madrid's trains.

Distill3d · #**303** Posted: **Oct 23, 2010, 5:59 AM**

Personally, I think the Canada Line should've been painted in the same color scheme as the new SkyTrains, SeaBus, and Buses are. Then again, its an entirely different monster.

Metro-One · #**304** Posted: **Oct 23, 2010, 6:11 AM**

I like the Canada line cars, but I really like the look of those new Toronto subway cars, except for their dinky little LED display that give the appearance of being fudged in at the last moment.

The two best looking rolling stock in Canada IMO are the new skytrain cars and these new Toronto subway cars.

I have never liked the look of Montreal's subway cars, and I am indifferent to Edmonton's and Calgary's LRT cars.

whiteford · #**305** Posted: **Oct 23, 2010, 6:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by Metro-One

I like the Canada line cars, but I really like the look of those new Toronto subway cars, except for their dinky little LED display that give the appearance of being fudged in at the last moment.

The two best looking rolling stock in Canada IMO are the new skytrain cars and these new Toronto subway cars.

I have never liked the look of Montreal's subway cars, and I am indifferent to Edmonton's and Calgary's LRT cars.

you are right about the look of Alberta's lrt's the way they look is very laking. they sure work good though. quiet, smooth and a bit comfy to boot. they sure are no beauty queen's like those new rockets thats for sure. i wouldn't go as far as ugly though. i would describe them as utilitarian.

Metro-One · #**306** Posted: **Oct 23, 2010, 7:12 AM**

exactly, hence I am indifferent to them, they are not ugly, but they are also not interesting to look at, they are just there, for lack of a better description past midnight, haha

Ayreonaut · #**307** Posted: **Oct 23, 2010, 3:07 PM**

I like Edmonton's LRVs more than Calgary's. They're the same thing, but Edmonton's have facelifts that look great.

Riise · #**308** Posted: **Oct 23, 2010, 3:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ayreonaut

I like Edmonton's LRVs more than Calgary's. They're the same thing, but Edmonton's have facelifts that look great.

I believe we actually have the same ones now. The only thing I don't like about them is the old school headlight centred above the windshield/destination marquee.

mersar · #**309** Posted: **Oct 23, 2010, 5:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Riise

I believe we actually have the same ones now. The only thing I don't like about them is the old school headlight centred above the windshield/destination marquee.

Yep, Calgary's most recent order is the same style as Edmontons new LRV's, they haven't gone into service yet but soon they will be.

caltrane74 · #**310** Posted: **Oct 23, 2010, 5:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonkeyRonin

They look the new LRT's we'll be getting in a couple years.

OMG!! Toronto's LRT's look just like Montreal's new subway. And funny enough the Eglinton Line which will stretch across the city will also be underground.. So not only will they look like Montreal's Subway's, be underground, they will also be above-ground on most of our Downtown arterial streets..

That's too funny, and will be a little confusing for tourist that travel between Montreal and Toronto

One thing for sure, you cannot confuse the Toronto LRT / Montreal Subway with the Rocket

caltrane74 · #**311** Posted: **Oct 25, 2010, 1:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by reaperexpress

I dropped by Wilson Yard today and the TR was sitting out front. There were people inside the cab, presumably teaching/learning how to drive it.

Here are a few pictures I took.

Is it me, or are the doors not a consistent distance to the end of the car?

reaperexpress at UT - more shots of the TR - Toronto Rocket Subway at the Wilson Yard

The_Architect · #**312** Posted: **Oct 25, 2010, 5:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Darkoshvilli

Except much nicer. Besides, the final design might still change so we'll see.

You wish.

I think the new LRTs will look great in T.O.
Though I really want them to keep at least a couple streetcar lines..
Toronto is known for its Red Rockets!

Darkoshvilli · #**313** Posted: **Oct 25, 2010, 8:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by The_Architect

You wish.

I think the new LRTs will look great in T.O.
Though I really want them to keep at least a couple streetcar lines..
Toronto is known for its Red Rockets!

I wish what?

They are clearly nicer.

caltrane74 · #**314** Posted: **Oct 25, 2010, 8:55 PM**

What are you talking about...?

They look the same, except for the hook that sticks out front of the subway editions. Other than that they are identical models.

dtgeek · #**315** Posted: **Oct 26, 2010, 4:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by Darkoshvilli

Those trains look slick. Not like the giant clunks of metal you guys got.

Function over form! Those boxes provide more interior space which means higher capacity and more comfort. I'm a tallish guy and I love the amount of head room. Gotta love the wide doors too for easy egress.

Alexcaban · #**316** Posted: **Oct 27, 2010, 3:05 AM**

STM press release.
http://www.stm.info/english/info/comm-10/a-co101022.htm

Bombardier press release.
http://www.bombardier.com/en/transpo...01260d8013a8bc

Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2zDSdVy9hg

- "Boa" type train with full inter-circulation between cars.
- Air suspension
- Larger windows, ergonomic supports poles and seats.
- natural lighting
- high definition televisions
- surveillance cameras.
- Forced ventilation system ensuring greater passenger comfort, with variable output adjusted automatically according to temperature and
passenger load in each car.
- To enter service February 2014.

agrant · #**317** Posted: **Oct 27, 2010, 3:35 AM**

Nice. I especially like the seating arrangement.

niwell · #**318** Posted: **Oct 27, 2010, 3:55 AM**

They look really great, but it would be nice to see them in blue. Also, maybe it's because it's been awhile since I've been on the Metro, but the trains seem really narrow. Toronto's new subway cars look quite a bit wider. It may be that Montreal's cars have always been narrower though, I just can't remember if that was the case.

MTLskyline · #**319** Posted: **Oct 27, 2010, 4:04 AM**

Yeah Montreal's cars have always been narrower.

This is the interior of the current generation of Metro cars:

(Photos by Alexcaban, Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Metro

Alexcaban · #**320** Posted: **Oct 27, 2010, 4:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by niwell

They look really great, but it would be nice to see them in blue. Also, maybe it's because it's been awhile since I've been on the Metro, but the trains seem really narrow. Toronto's new subway cars look quite a bit wider. It may be that Montreal's cars have always been narrower though, I just can't remember if that was the case.

The color of the trains is still not decided. There will be a survey soon on the STM's Facebook page to decide which color the the trains will be. So the public will decide the color of the trains.

Article in French.
http://nouvellesurbaines.blogspot.co...rs-auront.html

As for the narrow trains, yes they are but remember the trains and platforms are a lot longer then other subways.