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Old Posted Oct 30, 2008, 9:39 PM
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Wow those are wondering renderings. I feel the City of Industry would a great location for the Stadium. There is alot of open space there and that would mean that the freeways, city streets would not be so crazy for drivers. I used to go to the Stadium off of MacArthur in Los Angeles and it was so crazy for parking and walking in that area. People were having fights from one car to the other because of the congestion.

Kudos to City of Industry if this does happen. Maybe I will get back into foozball..


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Red Sox and White Sox are just misspellings of "Socks," so they're okay.

But Heat, Jazz, Magic, Wild, Avalanche and Lightning are all fucking stupid.

And soccer teams have stupid names pretty much by default.
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Red Sox and White Sox are just misspellings of "Socks," so they're okay.

But Heat, Jazz, Magic, Wild, Avalanche and Lightning are all fucking stupid.

And soccer teams have stupid names pretty much by default.
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Red Sox and White Sox are just misspellings of "Socks," so they're okay.
They're no better than the Shamrox or Lumberjax of the National Lacrosse League.
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How about the California Marriageisbetweenamanandawomanz
the z makes it cool
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How about the California Marriageisbetweenamanandawomanz
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Dang, that's hecka x-treme! Jesus rulz!
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They're no better than the Shamrox or Lumberjax of the National Lacrosse League.
Im completely with you
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^ Remember the XFL? There was the Memphia Maninx. And their logo was pretty interesting.



Even the Los Angeles team (The Xtreme) had an x in it.



I still say that the LA football team should be named either the LA Magnitude or the LAXX.
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there is a real push to have Superbowl 50 in Los Angeles in 2016. politicians and league owners are pushing for it and according to the owner of the Colts, its in LA's hands to make it happen. We were home to the first Superbowl and have had 7 previous superbowls in LA, 2 at the Coloseium and 5 at the Rose Bowl.
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They're no better than the Shamrox or Lumberjax of the National Lacrosse League.
The difference is that those teams added the X to sound "EXTREME!!!"

The White Sox and Red Sox did it before the extreme marketing fad. Therefore, the x is old-timey and not corny.
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The difference is that those teams added the X to sound "EXTREME!!!"

The White Sox and Red Sox did it before the extreme marketing fad. Therefore, the x is old-timey and not corny.
How versed are you in the trends of early 20th century America?
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NFL stadium is back in play in Carson
By Gene Maddaus Staff Writer
Posted: 11/24/2008 11:20:54 PM PST
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It's been more than three years since Carson gave up its dim hopes of attracting a professional football team - and more than a decade since the city seemed like a real contender for the NFL.

The former landfill where agent Michael Ovitz once dreamed a stadium could be built is now undergoing grading to make way for a shopping mall.

But the dream is too tantalizing for a Beverly Hills real estate developer to let it die. The developer, Richard Rand, has been quietly working on plans to build a stadium on a nearby parcel, south of the intersection of the San Diego (405) and Harbor (110) freeways.

Rand has not unveiled any plans or sought any coverage of his proposal. The only clue it even exists is that it has appeared on a few agendas of closed Carson City Council sessions, where it is described only in the vaguest of terms.

In recent months, the city has entered into an exclusive negotiating agreement with Rand's company, which gives him the right to try to put a deal together but does not bind the city to support the project.

"We've assured Richard and his folks that should that happen we certainly would be supportive," said Clifford Graves, the city's redevelopment manager. "He does appear to have the capacity on his team to make a serious effort."

League has toyed with a number of new stadium sites ever since both the Los Angeles Raiders and the Los Angeles Rams, who played in Anaheim, left town in 1995. Various developers and deal-

makers have vowed to bring football to the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, Pasadena, Carson, Irwindale, Inglewood and Anaheim.

Every time, the NFL has pulled back - leading a lot of people to believe that Los Angeles has just been used as a bargaining chip in the league's hardball negotiations with other cities.

The latest proposal is that of billionaire developer Ed Roski, who wants to build a new stadium in the City of Industry by 2012. Roski's plan has been met with skepticism by football fans whose hopes have already been raised and lowered too many times.

"People in the greater L.A. area think the league is not interested in coming back," said John Semcken, vice president of Roski's company, Majestic Realty. "Our experience is that's 180 degrees from reality. They want to be here in the worst way."

Roski expects to have final City Council approval of his environmental documents by spring, at which point he expects to start courting a team.

Meanwhile, Rand is at the earliest stages of his proposal. He owns only 12 acres of the 91-acre site, and doesn't expect to have architectural plans done until 2010. The proposed site, a mix of industrial buildings and vacant land, sits on a former garbage dump, and is contaminated.

"I would say it's too preliminary to get excited about it," said Pete Roth, Rand's attorney. "So many things have to go right. No one would say the desired goal is around the corner or imminent."

Rand has earlier proposed building a Wal-Mart on the site. That project ended badly when former Mayor Daryl Sweeney suggested that to win approval, Rand should hire his friend Robert Pryce, who demanded $100,000 and a cut of the project.

Rand ended up suing the city and winning $827,000, while Sweeney and Pryce ended up in prison.

At the moment, Rand's development concept is so preliminary that he may end up deciding to build another shopping center or a business park instead of a stadium.

Still, Carson has certain features that make a stadium an interesting option. Bounded by the two freeways on the north and west, and by Torrance Boulevard and Main Street on the south and east, the site is easy to get to from L.A. and Orange County. It would be next door to the future Boulevards at South Bay mall project, and a short drive from soccer and tennis stadiums at the Home Depot Center.

"Carson is at kind of a perfect traffic location," Roth said. "That site has great freeway visibility. That's what makes the possibility of it exciting."

The biggest problem - aside from all the problems inherent with any plan to lure the NFL - is the size of the parcel. At only 91 acres, it would seem to require parking garages, which are expensive to build.

Roth said that his client has already put "significant resources" into the proposal.

Graves said the city has not been asked to subsidize the project, although a document laying out development milestones includes an item about determining "deliverables" from the city, the county and the state.

Another item calls for the city to reinstate its powers of eminent domain in the project area.

Asked about the Rand proposal, an NFL spokesman declined to comment.

"We continue to monitor developments in Southern California," said spokesman Brian McCarthy. "We are not commenting on potential sites or suitors."

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Roski quietly pursues NFL team in L.A. area
He has land near where the 60 and 57 freeways intersect, the financial wherewithal, an entrepreneurial spirit and a plan that is hard to ignore. But he knows the history and the complications.
Bill Dwyre
The Los Angeles Times
December 30, 2008

Somewhere on Sunday, Ed Roski was watching and drooling.

He knew that what he was seeing, on a super Sunday of NFL competition, was what he wants for his city of Los Angeles.

All but a handful of the games had a bearing on the playoffs. There were more permutations than a slot machine. If you were a Philadelphia Eagles fan, you lived and died with what was happening in Tampa and Minneapolis. If you were a New England Patriots fan, your heart pounded fast for the New York Jets over Miami.

This was Chapter One of the book on sports marketing. Almost everything that was happening mattered. You can engage fans with luxury suites in shiny new stadiums, and leggy cheerleaders in sexy outfits. But you can't turn them on with the same passion as you will with games that count and drip with drama.

Somewhere on Sunday, while Roski drooled, the architect of this all, the late NFL commissioner Pete Rozelle was up there smiling.

Roski wants to make Los Angeles part of this again. He wants occasional grand finale games of seasons -- such as Sunday night's Chargers victory over the Broncos, with the virtuoso voice of Al Michaels describing it all -- to be taking place about 100 miles north of Qualcomm Stadium.

Yes, after nearly 15 years of having his city jerked around like a Yorkshire terrier on a leash and lied to like a jury at a Mafia murder trial, Ed Roski wants to try again. He has land, the financial wherewithal, an entrepreneurial spirit and a plan that is hard to ignore. He even seems to have the NFL's ear these days, but then, with them, it is hard to know which face to talk to.

Roski, president of Majestic Realty in the City of Industry, wants to build a stadium for an NFL team on land near the intersection of the 57 and 60 freeways. He also wants to own whatever team plays there, or at least a major portion of it.

You haven't heard a lot about this for several reasons. Most members of the media -- and readers, listeners and viewers they serve -- have been down this path with the NFL so many times that their minds click off to the words "NFL team in L.A." The old phrase "fool me once . . . " doesn't quite make it. With L.A. and the NFL, it is more like "fool me forever. . . . "

Another reason this is not a daily update news story is because Roski is a quiet man who does things mostly behind the scenes and has been through this NFL shell game, sort of as a bit player, several times before. Roski would rather climb Mt. Kilimanjaro (he has) or walk the wilds of an African jungle (he has) than see his picture in the paper every day.

Few know that he remains a part owner of the Kings and Lakers or that because of Roski's various business dealings years ago with a billionaire developer from Denver, Phil Anschutz was introduced to the Los Angeles scene. All you have to do to understand the import of that is to drive past Staples Center these days and look around at all the new high-rise buildings up, or going up.

Roski has quietly gone about the due diligence it takes to get something the size and significance of a pro football stadium from drawing board to ground breaking. There is some local resistance coming out of the neighboring municipality of Walnut, and there will always be local concern about traffic and infrastructure needs.

But Roski and his aides are chipping away, and a day such as the NFL had Sunday has to make all the work seem worthwhile. Say what you want about the NFL and its ownership club of 32 kings riding on high horses, it has a product that is hard to beat. It televises perfectly, is a game of speed, strength and strategy and has a free feeder system worth billions of dollars called college football.

The thought that Los Angeles is so angry about the way it has been danced around by the NFL since the Rams and Raiders left in 1994 that it won't support an NFL team is silly. Getting 70,000 people to as many as 10 games a year from a population area the size of Los Angeles would be a cinch. Getting Los Angeles a team so it could get back into the Super Bowl rotation is a win for both the NFL and the city.

Still, the same roadblocks remain. The NFL is a 32-team league -- perfect symmetry for scheduling, little likelihood of expansion. So that puts Roski in a position of having to steal a team from another city.

It is at this point, in the city fearing loss of its team, that the weeping and gnashing of teeth begins, followed by lots of speeches by local politicians. That is followed soon thereafter with the improvements in facilities or lease that the local owner was using to justify his possible departure to Los Angeles.

Is it worth going through all this again? If you paid any attention to what happened around the NFL on Sunday, the answer is yes. There is simply no sports product quite like the NFL.

Is there anything Roski should remember as he ventures forth?

Only that he should keep his day job, and his hand on his wallet.
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