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Old Posted: Dec 21, 2008, 1:53 AM
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Yeah - The Uptown plan would have been great. It's really a perfect spot for an urban stadium - it's too bad
Its a shame. Uptown is cool. Too bad Oakland spent up its sports capital getting pimped by Al Davis

I like the idea of the San Jose A's if it can be worked out. Anything but the Fremont stripmall A's
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Old Posted: Jan 2, 2009, 8:29 AM
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The Fremont A's???

The most convincing reason to keep the A's in Oakland...
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It would be good for baseball, too, to have another example to show people that urban/neighborhood stadiums can work, and that there is a better alternative to tailgating in a huge parking lot.

(Photos from sjdowntown.com and visit-san-diego.com)
Coors Field in Colorado is another good example of this.
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Every team should be in San Jose, since everyone's asking how to get there anyhow.
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Old Posted: Jan 5, 2009, 6:12 PM
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Old Posted: Jan 6, 2009, 8:48 PM
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Looks like the answer to "where should one of the Bay Area's sports teams be located" may soon be "Los Angeles"....

Al Davis rumored to plan sale of Raiders share
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Old Posted: Jan 6, 2009, 11:19 PM
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I keep hearing reports of selling are false, but then again they might be keeping it down to prevent panic and chaos, at least among the Raider fans.

Even if its true, what is it with Oakland and LA? Oakland, LA, Oakland, now LA again ... make up your minds already.
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Has a Raider return to LA ever not been a rumor?
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Old Posted: Jan 11, 2009, 10:55 PM
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I hope that article is someone's idea of a cruel joke, because that's just not possible. Seeing one stadium called both the home of the 49ers and Raiders would tear a hole in the universe or something. I for one wouldn't stand for it, and its crazy to think of them even considering it.
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Old Posted: Jan 12, 2009, 12:57 AM
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I hope that article is someone's idea of a cruel joke, because that's just not possible. Seeing one stadium called both the home of the 49ers and Raiders would tear a hole in the universe or something. I for one wouldn't stand for it, and its crazy to think of them even considering it.
What does it matter? They aren't rivals or anything. A game between them comes about once every four years.
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I would be all for it. I just don't see how either team can afford to go it alone, nor do I see the need for two new giant outdoor stadiums here. There just wouldn't be enough events to fill both of them with all the other existing venues available.

I think they could do enough with rotating signage, banners, flags and whatnot to make it feel like each team's home when appropriate. That would be my only concern. I wouldn't want to walk into the stadium for a Niner game and see a bunch of Raider stuff and I'm sure Raider fans feel the same way in return. I think they could manage that.
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What does it matter? They aren't rivals or anything. A game between them comes about once every four years.
I suppose the rivals thing depends on who you ask. I see them as rivals purely on a psychological point of view, because obviously they are not in the same divisions. Something like this would only offend me in that way, and while I still don't think its a good idea, I wouldn't stop supporting the 49ers or anything. I'd have to read more in depth about it to form a more concrete opinion.
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I wouldn't want to walk into the stadium for a Niner game and see a bunch of Raider stuff and I'm sure Raider fans feel the same way in return. I think they could manage that.
Well, the NY Jets and NY Giants share a stadium, and are building a new stadium which they'll also share. The current one doesn't really change its appearance that much between Jets and Giants games (and for Jet fans, you have the added indignity of the name "Giants Stadium"), but the new stadium will address that with some cool technology and I'm sure a new 9ers/Raiders stadium will do likewise.

If this issue gains steam, it's sure to divide the Bay Area's non-sports fans, or at least non-NFL fans ("Why do they need 2 stadiums anyway") and 9er and Raider fans ("How could they possibly share a stadium? That's just WRONG!")
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The Niners, Raiders, Bears, Cardinal and Spartans could all share a venue and still not fill as much of the calendar as the Warriors or Sharks alone.
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but the new stadium will address that with some cool technology and I'm sure a new 9ers/Raiders stadium will do likewise.
Yes! That's exactly the sort of thing I was thinking about. Through lighting, signage, projections, etc, you can totally change the look and feel of the place. The Jets' current situation is what would have to be avoided.
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The Niners, Raiders, Bears, Cardinal and Spartans could all share a venue and still not fill as much of the calendar as the Warriors or Sharks alone.
YES! Let's get the Bears out of Berkeley's hair!

HATE Football days.
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Old Posted: Jan 19, 2009, 1:00 AM
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YES! Let's get the Bears out of Berkeley's hair!

HATE Football days.
So it doesn't matter what football game days do for the city of Berkeley's economy?

I'm so glad the judge ruled in favor of the University on the stadium renovation lawsuit, the nutjobs were plucked out of the trees and the world sent a collective message to the CoB, Panoramic Hill association, and protestors to grow the hell up.
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^Seriously, its not like people bought their homes up there not knowing full well that there was a football stadium below. Having football games walking distance from town and campus makes the saturday afternoon experience that much stronger imo. Anyway I think they're moving games to Candlestick next season while they do repairs on Memorial Stadium, but not sure about that.
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The A's still can't decide...

A's explore new Fremont ballpark site near future Warm Springs BART station
By Matthew Artz


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Posted: 01/16/2009 08:23:03 PM PST


With their plans for a ballpark village facing major obstacles, the Oakland A's are shifting their focus for a new stadium to Fremont's Warm Springs area next to a planned BART station, team and city officials confirmed Friday.

The announcement comes weeks after A's owner Lew Wolff released a letter from Major League Baseball that invited the team to pursue other options if he can't move forward with a deal in Fremont. The A's hope the question will become clear by June.

For now, the team will amend its development application to move the ballpark closer to the future Warm Springs BART station, "most likely" the preferred location now, said A's co-owner Keith Wolff.

Both the Warm Springs location and the team's original site for a ballpark village west of Interstate 880 off Auto Mall Parkway will be included in a draft environmental report expected to be released this summer.

While the A's haven't completely given up on their original proposal to combine a stadium with housing and shops, they switched preferred sites primarily because they have been unable to reach an agreement with a major landholder in the Auto Mall Parkway area.

ProLogis, a real estate investment trust, owns the Pacific Commons shopping center and the ballpark site, and thus can block the project.

With their plans in serious jeopardy, the team has turned to the Warm Springs BART site, which regional transportation and environmental groups prefer.

But that location, just west of Interstate 680 near the intersection of Osgood Road and Grimmer Boulevard, presents its own hurdles. Many Warm Springs residents oppose the site, fearing the ballpark will cause gridlock and noise.

The team doesn't own any land near the BART site and would have to purchase several lots on which to build the stadium.

The A's hope to have a clear sense if either Fremont project is viable by June, Wolff said. He refused to speculate which city the team might turn to next if it appears the city council won't approve a stadium plan, but some leaders in San Jose see their city as an obvious candidate.

San Jose owns most of the land for a potential downtown ballpark near the Diridon rail station and has already prepared an environmental impact report. The big sticking point for San Jose is the Giants' territorial rights to Santa Clara County. However, last month's letter from baseball Commissioner Bud Selig could throw that into question. Major League Baseball officials have refused to elaborate on the letter, which didn't specifically address the Giants' territorial rights, and the Wolffs continue to insist the team is focused on Fremont.

If Fremont approves the environmental review, the team would have to return with a more specific plan showing exactly where the stadium would go, said Jill Keimach, the city's community development director.

The new proposal still would keep retail and housing, but not a ballpark, near Pacific Commons — something ProLogis would not oppose.

With the environmental study nearly completed for the Pacific Commons site, the next few months of traffic studies and other environmental analysis will focus on Warm Springs, Wolff said.

The team has been meeting with small groups of residents and proposing ideas to ease their concerns.

When the new application is submitted, the city will hold a second round of public meetings, allowing residents to comment on the plan.

The opposition in Warm Springs is a significant obstacle, Mayor Bob Wasserman said. "By volume, it's a lot of people."

http://www.mercurynews.com/southbaybaseball/ci_11475378
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