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Old Posted: May 23, 2008, 4:03 PM
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Tall order to protect

Shovel, Shovel, Shovel....

We want to densify but build taller.....


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Tall order to protect

Highrises threaten architect's vision for Centretown

By BETH JOHNSTON, SUN MEDIA

Downtown Ottawa is reaching new heights but that's not the vision architect John Leaning had when the city paid him to look into its future more than 30 years ago.

Leaning, a city-commissioned architect, drew up a plan for Centretown in 1974 that is being threatened today by the construction of more highrise buildings.

His vision included residential pockets criss-crossed by major roads and a boundary that would keep buildings taller than 12 stories north of Gloucester St.

He says lofty new developments south of that boundary, such as the 17- and 19-storey twin towers under construction at Kent and Lisgar streets, will ruin the streetscape.

Major developers concerned with making a quick buck don't design buildings "sensitively," he said, calling the Centretown situation "urgent."

COMMUNITY SPIRIT

"I am not suggesting everyone has to live in a house but the buildings need to be sensitive to designs so the area is liveable, which it isn't when you get a massive building with the wind blowing around it at high speeds.

"Buildings need to be designed so they relate to people as they walk around on the ground in the human scale. They need to be scaled down."

Centretown residents have fought new highrises on Gilmour St., at Bank St. and Gladstone Ave. and at Lisgar and Metcalfe streets.

Leaning is worrying that city planners won't heed his words since amalgamation in 2001 the council is made up of mostly suburban councillors with little concern for downtown.

"The downtown core is under-represented. Downtown issues will get forgotten," he said. "These buildings are out of scale with the people who wander around and have to use them."

City planner Alain Miguelez said years ago heritage buildings were being demolished to build parking lots for commuters from the 'burbs.

"A taller building that replaces a parking lot is good. It brings more people in instead of cars and it populates the area, which supports more retail and services," he said.

FIGHTING SPRAWL

Ottawa is trying to deal with its urban sprawl issue by bringing people back downtown to live. The city has set targets for how many residents it wants in each part of town.

"Centretown has a role to play in that," he said.

"The importance of design in architecture is obviously very critical. We don't want new buildings to destroy communities, we want them to improve communities."

The Centretown Community Association has to get its act together because it has a fight on its hands, Leaning said.

"They have to be quite forceful about what should be done in the Centretown area, otherwise it won't get done," he said.

"They are going to have to deal with things because they're not going to be dealt with adequately by council," he said.

HOW HOUSING STACKS UP

Household and population estimates for the central area of Ottawa in 2006:

- Single family homes: 44

- Semi: 26

- Row: 79

- Apartment: 5,385

- Total households: 5,534

- Population: 9,376

The central area, which includes the office district south of Parliament Hill, has the lowest number of single-family homes in the city and has the third-lowest number of households in the city.

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Facts about the riding of Ottawa Centre, according to Statistics Canada:

- Population in 2001: 114,032

- Population 2008: 109,336

- Change: -4.1%

- Singles: 45,030

- Number of census families in private households: 26,110

- Married couples w/o children at home: 7,695

- Common law couples w/o children: 4,230

Number of occupied private dwellings by structural type:

- Rowhouse: 3,995

- Apartment, duplex: 2,520

- Apartment building that has more than five storeys: 18,485

- Fewer than five storeys: 11,705

INTENSIFICATION SCRUTINY

Intensification in the city has been a hot topic of discussion in the Beyond Ottawa 2020 review of the Official Plan. The discussion continues with expert panellists at the Intensification Forum's three public sessions.

The following sessions deal with intensification.

- Tuesday: How do we reconcile community aspirations for intensification with the principles of the Official Plan?

Speaker: Dimitri Roussopoulos, founder and CEO of Urban Ecology, Montreal, 7-9 p.m., city hall.

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- Thursday: The Economics of Intensification.

Speakers: Pamela Blais, Metropole Consultants, Toronto; Doug Pollard, senior researcher, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation; Rick Morris, Domicile Developments Inc.; Ray Simpson, Hemson Consultants, 7-9 p.m., Ben Franklin Place.

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- Tuesday, June 3: Intensification that Fits: Supporting Intensification through Design, Compatibility & Collaboration.

Speakers: Peter Clewes, Architects Alliance, Toronto; Dennis Eberhard & Tom Smith Smart Centres; Michael Geller, Simon Fraser University; Basil Cavis, Canada Lands Company, Montreal, 7- 9 p.m., Ben Franklin Place.

To register for the sessions, visit ottawa.ca/beyondottawa2020 or call 3-1-1.
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Old Posted: May 23, 2008, 5:26 PM
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As I said when I was at the CCCA meeting where all this crap came out, "You've lost the plot". This isn't about height. It's about liveability. A three story, city block sized monolith that has no street interaction is much more damaging than a well designed tower with a well designed podium. And limiting developers to twelve stories means that there isn't room for design. The developers will build a block to the maximum floor area possible and that's it. They're done. Allow for more height and you get better design.
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As I said when I was at the CCCA meeting where all this crap came out, "You've lost the plot". This isn't about height. It's about liveability. A three story, city block sized monolith that has no street interaction is much more damaging than a well designed tower with a well designed podium. And limiting developers to twelve stories means that there isn't room for design. The developers will build a block to the maximum floor area possible and that's it. They're done. Allow for more height and you get better design.
Why? There is no limit to greed. What makes you think they won't just build a bigger "block to the maximum floor area possible"? BTW, I've often seen them exceed the limits then pay a fine - . The process is broken in our city.
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Old Posted: May 23, 2008, 5:57 PM
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I'm not saying the process isn't broken. I think it is. And keeping the Centretown Plan 'as is' is a way of ensuring that it continues to be broken. Changing the focus from mindless height limitations to design panel review and citizen consultation and negotiating with the city to exchange FAR for amenities is one way. Spending some time trying to come up with a vision for what we want the city to look like would help.

The current process is one that encourages demolition by neglect, the continuation of surface parking lots, and a continuation of policies that neglect our urban infrastructure.

I want developers to make money developing quality buildings that instill pride in our city. I want to see more mixed use buildings, live/work townhouses, LEED developments, more attention paid to CPTED principles. I want to see more dispersal of retail and employment nodes throughout the core. I want to see an urban fabric that is walkable throughout.

How do we get there? That's what we need to figure out. Not what arbitrary height buildings should be.
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Ottawa (or at least some of its residents and their representatives) is in such denial of being a big city. We, like all the other big cities in Canada, are having issues making housing affordable, which is slowly pushing people out into the suburbs. By building taller, we can make units cheaper than if someone bought the same lot and built only 5 storeys. Now, obviously, this isn't the case when you look at development on a building to building basis. Developers are greedy and will squeeze every last buck out of their buyers. But, if you look at central Ottawa as a whole, the prices are primarily dictated by the basic principles of supply and demand. Demand will continue to be high for downtown property as long as oil doesn't suddenly get cheap for some reason and we don't expand the 417 to 12 lanes from Orleans to Kanata (not gonna happen). So supply is the major driver of housing prices in Ottawa and the less units we build, the more expensive they will be in the long-run. So it is residents who already live in Centretown/Glebe/Market/Sandyhill who fight for their heigh restrictions and who (intentially or not) are driving up the prices of their own homes, essentially making downtown an unaffordable place to live. If you want to live on sleepy downtown street, move to Perth, otherwise get the hell out of the way!

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I want to see more dispersal of retail and employment nodes throughout the core. I want to see an urban fabric that is walkable throughout.
They're going a long way with the complete facelift of Bank Street. Anyone know if things have started at Bank and Somerset?
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The signs were up saying it would be closed as of the 22nd. So today should be the day, though I haven't taken my daily walk to the grocery store to check yet.
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Old Posted: May 23, 2008, 7:17 PM
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If you want to live on sleepy downtown street, move to Perth, otherwise get the hell out of the way!
Here's where we part ways a bit. I will fight like hell to keep some of our quiet residential streets in the core. Where appropriate. And the trade off for keeping those streets is going to be added densification where appropriate. Putting a twenty five story building in the middle of Florence St between Lyon and Bay would be inane, and I'd probably fight it. The same building on Nepean between Bank and O'Connor would probably get me speaking in favour of it at City Hall. On the flip side, I'd fight a block of well designed four story luxury townhomes in that Nepean St. location, and fight for the same on Florence St. because it would be a waste of a prime location in the former case, and be could be appropriate densification in the latter.
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Old Posted: May 23, 2008, 7:28 PM
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The signs were up saying it would be closed as of the 22nd. So today should be the day, though I haven't taken my daily walk to the grocery store to check yet.
I saw that too, but Bank was still open yesterday, and those signs were gone. Probably pushed it back.

Unless it's closed as of today, I dunno.. I'm not downtown today
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^ It's still open.
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Old Posted: May 24, 2008, 12:04 PM
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Things have changed alot in regards to urban planning in the last 30 years.Density helps to decreases sprawl,pollution and taxes.
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