Originally Posted by trueviking
hmmm....i dont really get your point....while i will never defend the quality of the exterior facade of the MTS centre, i dont see it as any more 'suburban' than any other new arena in canada....i dont love the facade composition, but the 'big city' arenas that you reference certainly are no better....the original design of MTS was more modernist, but to appease the group that opposed the demolition of eatons to make way, the red brick was added....to be fair, it does fit into the vernacular of winnipeg architecture.
MTS is an urban building more than most because it addresses a street on every side...there is no sea of parking or even a large plaza....GM place as an example, is urban but is suburban in its design.
i dont really think that the NHL cares what the facade of the arena looks like.
if we compare them, MTS doesnt appear any worse...even if it could have been better.
I suppose I should have articulated my case a little clearer. I don't take exception to the interior at all, and you're right that the NHL doesn't care about what the facade looks like. MTS meets the street well and there is no surface parking lot. In that respect, MTS was built right.
I suppose it's overly picky on my part, but I'm referring to the appearance of the facade. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's not very glamourous or sophisticated. It's very average. This is an entertainment complex and a number of big cities make an effort to build something that offers a little more than simply addressing functionality.
MTS is far better than the Montreal Forum or General Motors Place, but not as good as the ACC or the Sprint Centre in Kansas City. The latter 2 went the extra distance to inject a level of sophistication, glamour, and excitement into their exteriors. Choice of materials, spot lights, scale, proportion, video screens, etc. Granted, the ACC had a leg up on the rest, it's not a new building. It's a gorgeous old postal station that's been turned into an arena. It already had an aura of opulence to it. The setting helps too.
The ACC at night:
The setting helps:
New video screen:
The new side entrance to Union Station:
A reminder of what the finished product is supposed to look like:
The Sprint Centre is more sophisticated that the ACC, but the ACC nailed it when it comes to creating an electrifying and glamourous venue. The ACC also preserved many of those beautiful old 1920's features of the old building. They aren't quite that noticeable to the casual viewer, but these details add to the building a great deal. You really feel like you're in a big exciting city when you walk up to the place.
If Winnipeg wants to get the attention of the NHL, you have to do better than Vancouver of Montreal did with their arenas. They can get away with it. Winnipeg needs to try harder. I'm not saying that making the extra effort will bear fruit, but it's these details that matter.