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Old Posted Jun 25, 2008, 2:42 PM
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DUBAI | Dynamic Tower (Rotates) | 1,378 FT / 420 M | 80 FLOORS | VISION

Dubai is at it again. I wonder how long it will take to finish this one.

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very interesting..but not the first proposal for a rotating tower in dubai i think...in the animation in the last seconds the tower looks really pretty.
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Dubai needs to be stopped.
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Next they'll come up with a skyscraper that alternates what floor you're on, and then have a group of buildings that exchange floors between them so your address would be constantly changing.
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Evidently the building is to be strictly inhabited by supermodels.
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Great, but what happens when I flush the toilet?
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I saw a yahoo article that mentioned the wind turbines between floors, but a car elevator? For 1300 feet?
I mean, parking my Lamborghini on the 80th floor next to my French maid strikes me as just a bit egotistical, but hey, it's Dubai, just run with it I guess...
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Great, but what happens when I flush the toilet?
You end up infront of my stormstrike earthshock !

on a more serious note , i have no idea
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Reduce, re-use, & recycle. Solids fertilize gardens, and liquids can be filtered for plant consumption also. And I don't think supermodels go to the bathroom, so no problems there.
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It vaporizes and dissolves ...
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EVERY floor is built with MASSIVE 30-45' or more cantilevers, and they have a car elevator so you can bring up and further load your cantilever apartment with your vehicles huge loads? This project is just a stupid gimmick. As shown, it is completely impractical from pretty much every standpoint, even for being in Dubai. I am also wondering how they harvest the energy from the "turbines", if they just spin around the core, how do they transfer that energy into a generator, and where do they put them all? When the building shape is totally disconfigured as it is on the image on the far right there is just a huge chaotic maze of huge moment loads acting all over the tower core. Aside from all of the mechanical logistics to work out with plumbing, electrical, etc. the structural acrobatics going on all over the place just make this project seem like nonsense... that and it doesn't even look very cool or attractive as some random mess of forms for almost 1,400'.
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Personally, this is a very interesting way to build new skyscrapers. It's a new dimension that is given to architecture and designing of towers.

The design is really amazing. If you see the videos of what such a tower can do, I can't wait to see anything like that.

But in reality, I don't know if it's possible to build something like that. Parking your cars in the tower itself is useless and even stupid. So if this building is really going to be build, I think they will 'delete' this part.

I read the 'toilet flush'-problem: I have no idea how they will solve this problem... Each floor rotates 360° so it's not possible to connect any pipe at all with the center of the building which is on solid ground.

Maybe more details will be published in a few weeks about these two skyscrapers (one in Dubai and one in Moscow as far as I know).
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i wonder how mutch the averidge floor are going to way !
it is going to be hevey for the bearrings in the center !
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This is crazy, but not necessarily impossible. There will be large and irregular loads, but they can be solved with a more massive core. As for utilities of all sorts, I would run them back into the core underneath the flooring, and then hook them into building-wide main lines. Obviously there is only one exact center of rotation, so some fancy and flexible piping would be needed, but it should be possible.
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i wonder how mutch the averidge floor are going to way !
it is going to be hevey for the bearrings in the center !
But the architect said that almost everything was pre-fabbed. So I guess that it will be light-weight materials, so no concrete but a small steel base, anchored in the center.

Although, I hope the architect and the engineers do their math exercices, because I don't want to see mistakes in this kind of structure!
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How fast do they rotate because im sure some people would get motion sickness. Heck my sister rides in the car for about 4 minutes and she gets sick, imagine living in an always rotating room. I wouldnt get sick i dont think but wouldnt some people. Im sure this has already been thought out but I was just wondering how fast they rotate.
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supposedly the rotation will always be slow enough to where there won't be any problems with motion sickness. In addition some of the floors (for the right price) allow you to control all the motion. I think this sounds like a cool idea, but my concern is that this building will require a great deal more maintenence than typical buildings. You have huge moving parts, periodically these building components are going to have to be inspected, repaired or replaced. What is the cost, what kind of inconvenience would this be for the people living in the building and who would oversee the developers/owners to make sure that all the proper safety inspections were occurring. This seems particularly relevant given the architects somewhat dubious credentials.
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