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Old Posted: Sep 15, 2011, 10:40 PM
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That's probably a little heavy handed. Zoning should be restricted within 1/8 and 1/2 mile distances from rail transit but holding up the owners/developers for the cash to build stations or improve existing stations probably won't be a productive at a long term model.

The station at Division could probably draw some on the Near North TIF since it would most definitely help revitalize the area.
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Old Posted: Sep 16, 2011, 6:38 AM
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Alternatively we could give breaks to people who develop more dense units especially within say 1/2-1/4 mile of bus or rail.....if you do not build to a density level or build outside that zone you get hit with a low-density tax since per capita less dense areas are more expensive to serve.....just a quick knee-jerk reaction...I have not thought this through yet in terms of incentives etc.
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Old Posted: Sep 16, 2011, 3:27 PM
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K2

Has anyone been by this site this week? Are the casisson rigs at work yet? After 500 N LSD, seems like K2 will be the next apartment tower to officially begin construction.

And there could potentially still be a couple more this year (hoping the market for multifamily construction financing hasn't taken much of a hit amidst all of the financial market volatility and economic outlook downgrades of the past 2 months) - ugly AMLI River North maybe next month, and I think Habitat also may have been targeting their 360 W. Hubbard project for a groundbreaking before year-end. Speaking of the latter: does anyone know if it would need Plan Commission approval (approximately 45 storeys, 450 units)? I think the site is in an existing PD, so maybe it's already good to go, entitlement-wise??

As long as the fundamentals and capital markets behind this rental tower mini-boom continue, in 2012 we could see 171 N. Wabash/73 E. Lake, Optima's Streeterville project, rebirth of the former Waterview Tower site, the new Golub Streeterville complex and who knows - maybe even the tower along Halsted in the W Loop (parking lot beside the Crowne Plaza)?
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Old Posted: Sep 16, 2011, 3:39 PM
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I think Habitat also may have been targeting their 360 W. Hubbard project for a groundbreaking before year-end. Speaking of the latter: does anyone know if it would need Plan Commission approval (approximately 45 storeys, 450 units)?
i'm drawing a blank on this one. does it go by a different name? have we seen renderings?
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Curbed Chicago
Friday, September 16, 2011, by Mark Boyer

Site Prep Begins on Fifield's New High-Rise at Kinzie & Halsted

http://chicago.curbed.com/archives/2...ie-halsted.php
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Old Posted: Sep 17, 2011, 7:43 AM
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Atrium Village.

Looks effin dope.
I must agree.

Building this would shirley be an impetus for constructing a stop on the Brown Line there.

It could happen Steely. Most of the NIMBY's are east of Wells.
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Old Posted: Sep 17, 2011, 3:22 PM
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Has anyone been by this site this week? Are the casisson rigs at work yet?
Not at work yet, but CASE cranes and drill bits/tubes are all on site, so it's imminent.
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Old Posted: Sep 17, 2011, 4:32 PM
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Groupon duo and partners reach deal for Wrigley Building

The group is buying the ornate two-tower complex at 400-410 N. Michigan Ave., along with a property immediately northwest of the building, now the site of a surface parking lot and shuttered health club. Covering a full block, it's one of the biggest undeveloped parcels in River North.

http://www.chicagorealestatedaily.co...igley-building
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Old Posted: Sep 17, 2011, 8:18 PM
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^ In the General Developments thread I posted some thoughts about that full-block site.
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Old Posted: Sep 18, 2011, 8:19 PM
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270 E Grand - Ronald McDonald house

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Old Posted: Sep 18, 2011, 10:26 PM
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Thanks for the updates, harry.

I found this interesting and it's certainly off thread... but the building down the street from the Ronald McDonald House on Grand (161 E Grand, the lower left hand corner of harry's 1st three shots) is listed as a confirmed Thorium contaminated site. It seems it was a former business, Lindsay Light Co that manufactured incandescent gaslight mantles in the 1930's.
I assume the RMH site was cleaned up since it was pending investigation in 2010. FYI





http://www.epa.gov/region5/cleanup/lindsaylight/

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i'm drawing a blank on this one. does it go by a different name? have we seen renderings?

I think it's been maybe a little under the radar. Haven't seen any renderings, definitely a job for Spyguy. It's an SCB design. There was soil testing at the site (currently a surface parking lot) several months ago. Reported in the media back in March that Habitat was just about ready to hit the market for financing. A couple months ago I saw a reference somewhere that they were targeting a November construction start, so it seems like they want to move quickly on this one. Given this, and that I hadn't seen the project pop up on a Plan Commission agenda or in any type of community outreach - at least via the River North Residents Association (assuming its website is up-to-date) got me wondering if it doesn't need any additional formal approvals or to jump through the community buy-in hoops (ie it conforms to the current PD it's located within)?
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Old Posted: Sep 19, 2011, 1:55 PM
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^I don't keep track of all the PDs for River North, but the parking lot site is "RBPD 106." A number that low would be from the mid-1970s, done before PDs had sunset dates. My first thought was that it was just the parking required for the East Bank Club, but the fact that it's a Residential Business Planned Development suggests that the original developers had in mind a couple of apartment towers. Miles Berger's book They Built Chicago just says that McHugh-Levin (Habitat) originally planned a pair of residential high-rises connected by a health club, but couldn't get financing for such a risky area and so just did East Bank Club, which opened in 1980. In 1985, they announced construction of a 22-story office tower on this site, but that obviously never happened.

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Old Posted: Sep 19, 2011, 6:05 PM
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^I don't keep track of all the PDs for River North, but the parking lot site is "RBPD 106." A number that low would be from the mid-1970s, done before PDs had sunset dates. My first thought was that it was just the parking required for the East Bank Club, but the fact that it's a Residential Business Planned Development suggests that the original developers had in mind a couple of apartment towers. Miles Berger's book They Built Chicago just says that McHugh-Levin (Habitat) originally planned a pair of residential high-rises connected by a health club, but couldn't get financing for such a risky area and so just did East Bank Club, which opened in 1980. In 1985, they announced construction of a 22-story office tower on this site, but that obviously never happened.
Whatever they do, I wish that when they do it the City would buy that little triangle parking lot across Kingsbury from the EBC and turn it into a plaza. I think that could be a really awesome plaza.
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I'm afraid I don't follow you. It takes more than just an available space to make a good plaza. There are no heavy pedestrian flows across the space, no nearby big office or residential buildings. It isn't fronted by any public or semipublic buildings. It gets no sun in the morning and in the winter it will be heavily shadowed by the Apparel Mart. East Bank users tend to hurry in and out by auto or taxi early or late in the day. So what would make it a good place for a plaza?

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Old Posted: Sep 20, 2011, 8:59 AM
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Mr D, is the EBC owned by its members, or still by Habitat? Wouldn't it be fantastic to see this new Habitat project include a podium with a replacement for EBC, so we can get that ugly bunker off of the river.

Wishful thinking, because I assume there's not much wrong with the existing EBC facility, and its riverside site presumably isn't so valuable that it could fund the building of a replacement only a block away.
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Old Posted: Sep 20, 2011, 12:34 PM
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I'm afraid I don't follow you. It takes more than just an available space to make a good plaza. There are no heavy pedestrian flows across the space, no nearby big office or residential buildings. It isn't fronted by any public or semipublic buildings. It gets no sun in the morning and in the winter it will be heavily shadowed by the Apparel Mart. East Bank users tend to hurry in and out by auto or taxi early or late in the day. So what would make it a good place for a plaza?
I don't know how much time you spend in that area, but the pedestrian and bike traffic I see on Kinzie is pretty heavy compared to the other east-west streets in River North because of the Kinzie bridge. Furthermore, if the parking lot across from that slice were developed so that it had things facing the plaza, it would add more than enough action to liven it up. And the space that Rumba currently occupies could pretty easily be configured to take advantage of an adjacent plaza.

Finally, as for sun, it should get plenty of sun during the summer and Daley Plaza is shaded pretty much year-round, and especially dark during the winter. Since that's such a big disadvantage perhaps you should go notifiy the City that Christkindlmarket will be a total disaster to have there, and that Mariano Park is total crap, too, because nobody would ever use a park in Chicago with a highrise directly south of it. /sarcasm

In other words, I think you're completely off-base. That site would get far more traffic than most neighborhood plazas, far more sun than other existing plazas, year-round, and I don't see what your problem is with it. The idea that every new plaza should have to be a destination plaza or have the foot traffic levels of North Michigan Avenue is patently absurd. I live a 10 minute walk from there, and I'm not the only person who sometimes walks to that vicinity just to look at the view from the bridge - there are always people there on the bridge looking at the view. If there were a plaza in that space, people could see the view and then hang out in the plaza for a while. If the massive parking lot across the street were developed, people from there would use it. People scurry to and from the EBC mainly exactly because there is nothing else to do in the area - so what's wrong with giving them something to do?
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Daley Plaza has an excellent location, at the exact center of the city. All transit lines converge within two blocks of the plaza and it is fronted by two monumental civic buildings. Pedestrian flows around the site would be massive with or without the plaza.

Even so, I don't really see Daley Plaza as being very populated, especially in cold weather. That's the main reason why the city takes every excuse they can find to program the space in the winter, when there's no available sunlight in the plaza.

Personally, I'd much rather that the new building incorporate enough parking to remove all street parking from Kingsbury. Then you have the space to landscape the street, calm traffic, and create a much more inviting spine for that part of River North. Right now, Kingsbury is just an oversized industrial street that was designed to be wide enough for two horse carriages and a freight train to pass each other.

Then maybe you can start to plug in small places of repose along the street. Park Kingsbury has a little entry plaza, there's East Bank Club's loading dock, Erie Park, the space under the Ohio bridge, etc.
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Thanks for the updates, harry.

I found this interesting and it's certainly off thread... but the building down the street from the Ronald McDonald House on Grand (161 E Grand, the lower left hand corner of harry's 1st three shots) is listed as a confirmed Thorium contaminated site. It seems it was a former business, Lindsay Light Co that manufactured incandescent gaslight mantles in the 1930's.
I assume the RMH site was cleaned up since it was pending investigation in 2010. FYI
This building actually has "Lindsay Light Company" engraved in the cornice. I have a photo somewhere...
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