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Old Posted: Jan 24, 2012, 2:43 AM
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^ So the 40-story story was accurate, but no word on what was going to be done with the space.

The article uses an RIC press release as a source. I tracked down the press release (Edit: is same as the one Mr Downtown linked to on an earlier page):
http://www.ric.org/aboutus/mediacent...ion062711.aspx

It indicates they were still in the conceptual planning phase at that stage (June 2011), so it sheds little light on what they were intending to do with all that space or how realistic it was.

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Old Posted: Jan 24, 2012, 5:19 AM
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The former CBS site is 67,000 square feet. RIC said it wanted a 1 million sq foot building. That's only 15 floors at full site coverage.

When an RIC exec said the building could be 40 floors, that's not the same as saying RIC wanted it to be 40 floors. And it's a long, long way from saying RIC went to the alderman with a PD showing 40 floors.
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Old Posted: Jan 24, 2012, 2:33 PM
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Great lets just fill streeterville with huge blocky 400ft buildings and not let anything break 600ft...this city makes me shake my head sometimes
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Old Posted: Jan 24, 2012, 3:36 PM
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Just got an email from Cappleman in the 46th. Looks like NIMBYs stalled the proposal at Clarendon and Montrose.

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Throughout this community process, I purposefully remained neutral to ensure committee representatives heard from the community, the developer, and the City in as much of a respectful manner as possible. Tonight, I am proud to say that the process we have created has been a success. Due to many of the thoughtful concerns regarding this proposal, including the amount of TIF funds requested and the density and size of the development, I have concluded that I cannot support this development at this time. Twenty-seven members out of thirty that participated in the meeting voted no to this project. Out of the twenty-seven that voted no, 14 had specific conditions and changes that if were met, would reconsider. The committee seriously reviewed the pros and cons of this proposal and are willing to forgo this development proposal at this time. We will communicate the must-have changes of the 14 committee members to Sedgwick to see if they are willing to make these changes and we will get back to the committee with their response in the coming weeks.
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Old Posted: Jan 24, 2012, 4:01 PM
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Just got an email from Cappleman in the 46th. Looks like NIMBYs stalled the proposal at Clarendon and Montrose.
As much as I would love to see new luxury apartment towers in Uptown, I sympathize with the objection when it comes to the use of TIF funds, especially when you see some of the eye popping figures for the Uptown Theater reno. That is what those funds should be for IMO. I wasn't really in love with the design anyway. Hopefully they'll still find a way to make something good happen on that site.
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Old Posted: Jan 24, 2012, 4:19 PM
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Great lets just fill streeterville with huge blocky 400ft buildings and not let anything break 600ft...this city makes me shake my head sometimes
Huh? Has anyone ever proposed a 600-foot building in Chicago that was not approved? Ever?
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Old Posted: Jan 24, 2012, 5:11 PM
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Has anyone ever proposed a 600-foot building in Chicago that was not approved? Ever?
the original 4th presbyterian tower plan (it was ~700ft. tall) that was killed by Natarus comes immediately to mind.

i'm sure there have been others.
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Old Posted: Jan 24, 2012, 7:40 PM
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Great lets just fill streeterville with huge blocky 400ft buildings and not let anything break 600ft...this city makes me shake my head sometimes
Is an extra two hundred feet really going to make a difference? Its still a mediocre building buried within Streeterville. Just let it replace a vacant lot and be happy that it isn't a hideous abomination like most Streeterville buildings.
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Old Posted: Jan 24, 2012, 7:43 PM
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Just got an email from Cappleman in the 46th. Looks like NIMBYs stalled the proposal at Clarendon and Montrose.
Good.

Lets hope that its dead for good this time. Sedgewick Properties is a lousy developer, they wanted a boat load of TIF money for a lakefront apartment building and the building podium was offensive as best.
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Old Posted: Jan 24, 2012, 7:46 PM
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I think the lack of tall buildings is the last of Streeterville's problems.

Streeterville actually needs a few more humanly scaled buildings with retail to give it texture, it also needs fewer parking lots and garages. The biggest menace to Streeterville is Northwestern University, not the Alderman or developers.

I'm already fully expecting Northwestern to demolish RIC's old facility once they move out, turn it into a parking lot for about 10 years, and then God knows what atrocity they will build in its place.
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Old Posted: Jan 24, 2012, 7:53 PM
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Presumably they'll demolish RIC and the adjacent Prentice, and landbank the gravel as tax-free empty lots for a few decades.
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Old Posted: Jan 24, 2012, 8:56 PM
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Huh? Has anyone ever proposed a 600-foot building in Chicago that was not approved? Ever?
im talking about streeterville ...maybe you should learn to read a little better .. just like when you didnt read that there was a 40 story building proposed for RIC site...anyway river east center is only 600ft plus building in streeterville (not including michigan avenue)
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Old Posted: Jan 24, 2012, 9:50 PM
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^Well, since complex sentences seem to be a problem for you, let me put it more directly. To the best of my knowledge, every building taller than 600 feet that has ever been proposed in Streeterville has been approved. In fact, one was approved that would reach the limit of federal airspace. Thus it seems rather odd for you to be whining that 600-footers are somehow being kept out of Streeterville.

And, to repeat, no 40-story building was ever proposed for RIC.
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Old Posted: Jan 25, 2012, 3:25 AM
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I think the lack of tall buildings is the last of Streeterville's problems.

Streeterville actually needs a few more humanly scaled buildings with retail to give it texture, it also needs fewer parking lots and garages. The biggest menace to Streeterville is Northwestern University, not the Alderman or developers.

I'm already fully expecting Northwestern to demolish RIC's old facility once they move out, turn it into a parking lot for about 10 years, and then God knows what atrocity they will build in its place.
I agree Streeterville is very lacking in human scale buildings.

I'm sorry to anyone that lives there, but I feel the experience in that neighborhood is unpleasant. Cold, bleak, and empty canyons of buildings. Even the retail and restaurants look obscured beneath those monolithic facades.
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This is what you would have gotten if Mies was a substance abuser.

Don't mean that in a negative either.
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Old Posted: Jan 25, 2012, 9:52 AM
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Crain's reports that RIC's new facility is going to be 690,000 SF.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...e-50-more-beds
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Besides being denser than the previous proposal, Antheus has apparently made the logical switch to apartments.
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Old Posted: Jan 25, 2012, 6:02 PM
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^ woah, that is a drastic change from the previous proposal... and Im not quite sure how I feel about it, especially since it looks like the parking might have gone topside with that large nondescript podium piece. You know anything else about it spyguy?
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Old Posted: Jan 25, 2012, 6:41 PM
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Besides being denser than the previous proposal, Antheus has apparently made the logical switch to apartments.
What was the previous proposal here? Looks sweet as always with Gang.
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Old Posted: Jan 25, 2012, 6:48 PM
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What was the previous proposal here? Looks sweet as always with Gang.

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