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kayosthery · #**1021** Posted: **Feb 20, 2009, 2:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by StatenIslander237

Aww that's ridiculous. This site is huge and this project is gonna be huge, and if they ever get around to the tower components, there will be some height to be reckoned with.

I'm always surprised the Roosevelt Collection doesn't get more attention, it's just as visible as OMPW is from the Roosevelt 'L' station and I feel like anyone waiting on the platform, or running to Target could always snap a pic or two.

Looks like 12 storeys to me if you count from Wells and include the Roof slab:

Roof
L8 residential
L7 residential
L6 residential
L5 residential
L4 residential
L3 residential
R2 retail and the Kerasotes theater @ North end
R1 @ Roosevelt St grade. retail and the Kerasotes theater @ North end
P1 parking
P2 parking
P3 @ Wells St. grade. parking

3 tower cranes all with their swing radii overlapping, and not a single incident or accident.

4 piling rigs, driving over 40 miles of pile... that's more than Soldier Field and a record in Chicago.

3 RT cranes

3 concrete pumps was the most we had to bring out on any single day.

87,060 cys of concrete poured to date.

8,014 tons of rebar placed to date.

Still not significant enough for you Tom?

Let me put it in perspective for all of you. If you were to assume a typical highrise floor plate of around 13,000 sf @ 8" thick and deduct about 30,000 cys for the foundation... we could have built a 178 storey building.

Here's some pics

Looking Northwest from the R1 level (Roosevelt Rd. grade)

Disassembling the three tower cranes using a GMK 7550 with luffing jib and mega wing attachment.

the urban politician · #**1022** Posted: **Feb 20, 2009, 2:59 PM**

^ thanks for the update, I agree that RC is worth snapping shots of.

I hope that a developer some day comes in and builds another project between RC and the river, also contributing to a river walk.

F1 Tommy · #**1023** Posted: **Feb 20, 2009, 3:05 PM**

It is amazing the change Roosevelt collection has made. Metra/Amtrak will
always make the west side of the River by Roosevelt hard to develop unless they move the yard. I wonder if the government ever plans on ever taking out the old no longer used railroad bridges?

Tom In Chicago · #**1024** Posted: **Feb 20, 2009, 4:47 PM**

I have no problem with people talking about Roosevelt Collection here. . . help yourselves. . . I was merely answering a question as to why it doesn't get more attention on a "skyscraper" forum. . .

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cbotnyse · #**1025** Posted: **Feb 20, 2009, 5:04 PM**

the movie theater in RC will be a great boost to the area.

lawfin · #**1026** Posted: **Feb 20, 2009, 8:39 PM**

It cannot recall does RC call for two towers or one....I thought 2 at about 20 and 40 stories but don't seem to remember. the render on the rc site looks like only 1??

kayosthery · #**1027** Posted: **Feb 20, 2009, 11:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by lawfin

It cannot recall does RC call for two towers or one....I thought 2 at about 20 and 40 stories but don't seem to remember. the render on the rc site looks like only 1??

Just one, 40 storey tower. It will occupy the Northwest corner of the site.

TransitEngr · #**1028** Posted: **Feb 21, 2009, 4:36 AM**

It's probably already been sighted...

But I came across one of those "Public Notices" mentioning a 419 Ft. tall building....

At the corner of Van Buren and Wabash (currently a paved surface parking lot). It mentions "from downtown mixed use district to residential - institutional planned development."

I assume this is a high-rise college dorm tower.

Any renderings or expected date for breaking ground???

NEVER MIND... I SEE IT ON PAGE 50 NOW.

honte · #**1029** Posted: **Feb 21, 2009, 4:36 AM**

^ I think that was supposed to also be a dorm?

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Originally Posted by Loopy

^I believe that is by Andrew Rebori and rated Orange. Roosevelt purchased it last year. Since they only mention demo of Herman Crown, let's cross our fingers.

Also, that new building is HUGE! What's the deal there? How can they possibly use all of that space? If you look closely, the plan is "L" shaped and it looks like it runs to the corner of Wabash and Van Buren.

Booth Hansen has been doing a lot of work for Roosevelt in the last few years. This could be their largest structure,

Sorry I am late to respond... it's been a bad week. In any case, this is regarding the Fine Arts Annex building next to the Crown Center.

Loopy, you are correct about the architect and the Orange rating.

Last I heard on this one, it would join the prestigious ranks of Wabash facadectomies. I think they were talking about leaving 40 feet or so of the building. I personally might take a "Legacy" position on this one given the nice quality of the proposed building and the major positive impact it makes on the streetwall ... maybe. It's worth noting that the Rebori building did at one time (not sure if any longer) have a very interesting interior quality and interesting functional program, so it's not a "skin deep" loft building as was artificially claimed at the Legacy.

I really wish people here would consider more-creative solutions than facadectomies. In fact, the BH design shown on the previous pages just screams out, "I am suspending myself over a significant older building to preserve it." I'm still waiting for someone here to do a design like that. If OMA and Hadid can cantilever buildings over plazas for essentially no reason, I'm sure Chicago can figure out a way to do this to save older buildings.

wrab · #**1030** Posted: **Feb 21, 2009, 4:52 AM**

The Skyline
By Blair Kamin
The latest new wrinkle in tall buildings: A skyscraper for seniors

From Sunday's print edition. Originally posted: February 20, 2009

With millions of Baby Boomers nearing their 65th birthday and yuppies turning into “ruppies” (retired urban people), it was only a matter of time before the world got something like The Clare at Water Tower, a stylish skyscraper in which to grow old.

But it took an architect with the skill and artistry of Ralph Johnson, a principal at the Chicago office of Perkins+Will, to ensure that this 54-story high-rise would nestle so deftly into the cityscape and provide a humane environment for its residents, some of whom get around with walkers and white canes.....

Continue reading at: http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/theskyline/

Loopy · #**1031** Posted: **Feb 21, 2009, 4:59 AM**

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Ch.G, Ch.G · #**1032** Posted: **Feb 21, 2009, 6:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by honte

If OMA and Hadid can cantilever buildings over plazas for essentially no reason, I'm sure Chicago can figure out a way to do this to save older buildings.

Maybe Helmut paved the way with 600 N Fairbanks? You've talked about it before but I think it's a point worth repeating: There's not much of a middle ground in this city. Buildings are either razed or preserved totally in tact, no contemporary addition or progressive rereading.

To be fair, other American cities haven't done a great job, either. I mean, you have an architect as high profile and acclaimed as Norman Foster make a total mess of the old Hearst building. Cesar Pelli's proposed addition to South Station is similarly awkward.

Has anyone seen this one by Garofalo Architects?

http://www.garofaloarchitects.com/work/noble/noble.html

I wish projects like that happened more often. Maybe one day we'd even get something like this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/javier1949/2634431378/

...although, given the treatment of the interior, I guess that's the definition of facadectomy?

Nowhereman1280 · #**1033** Posted: **Feb 21, 2009, 7:02 AM**

Nothing like the new raping the old!

Busy Bee · #**1034** Posted: **Feb 21, 2009, 4:07 PM**

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I mean, you have an architect as high profile and acclaimed as Norman Foster make a total mess of the old Hearst building.

Your kidding right?

I've honestly never read anything but praise for how successful the design of this building is. You didn't really expect them to build a 40 floor historic limestone edifice did you? It was a great design program to build a striking state of the art modern expression while preserving a handsome base from a bygone era. The two contrast very while with one another. If the Hearst Building is a "failure", that must mean just about 95% of everything built is a complete disaster.

Ch.G, Ch.G · #**1035** Posted: **Feb 21, 2009, 4:48 PM**

^ Er... if I gush over HdeM's CaixaForum, what makes you think I'd advocate for a "40 foot historic limestone edifice"? As for never reading anything but praise for the design, I think this review might at least be a helpful "devil's advocate" for you. The bit about "prototype buildings" that lack a "program and a site" rings especially true if you've ever seen his Pritzker Tower design for Chicago.

george · #**1036** Posted: **Feb 21, 2009, 6:30 PM**

[QUOTE=Ch.G, Ch.G;4101204]

Maybe Helmut paved the way with 600 N Fairbanks? You've talked about it before but I think it's a point worth repeating: There's not much of a middle ground in this city. Buildings are either razed or preserved totally in tact, no contemporary addition or progressive rereading.

To be fair, other American cities haven't done a great job, either. I mean, you have an architect as high profile and acclaimed as Norman Foster make a total mess of the old Hearst building. Cesar Pelli's proposed addition to South Station is similarly awkward.

Has anyone seen this one by Garofalo Architects?

http://www.garofaloarchitects.com/work/noble/noble.html

I look at this all the time & say, what the hell? Funny, I'm familiar with Doug's work & wasn't aware he did this. I do like his Green Bay project.

wrab · #**1037** Posted: **Feb 21, 2009, 8:48 PM**

Remember this one?

Church cedes sky
In alderman's view, crowded skies and streets outweighed benefits of proposed high-riseDenied twice, Fourth Presbyterian drops plan to sell air rights on Magnificent Mile.

By Manya A. Brachear and Todd Lighty | Tribune reporters
February 22, 2009

One of the city's most affluent Protestant congregations has abandoned controversial plans to sell lucrative air rights behind its sanctuary that would have allowed for the construction of a high-rise luxury hotel on the Gold Coast.

Fourth Presbyterian Church had long planned to sell the air space over its 1914 neo-Gothic church for about $25 million to pay for expansion and renovation, and to build a new community center in a nearby public housing project.

But after two consecutive proposals were rejected by two consecutive aldermen from the 42nd Ward, the historic house of worship at the north end of the Magnificent Mile has given up on the blueprint for its future.....

Continue reading at: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,6995375.story

lawfin · #**1038** Posted: **Feb 21, 2009, 9:47 PM**

This proposal was panned by many. My concern is not so much with the proposal(s) dying but with the further evidence that Reilly is an anti-development obstructionist in one of the more dense urban areas in all of North AMerica

He has got to go next time around

the urban politician · #**1039** Posted: **Feb 21, 2009, 11:08 PM**

^ Yeah, I wouldn't worry. Reilly won't be around forever.

Nowhereman1280 · #**1040** Posted: **Feb 21, 2009, 11:59 PM**

Ok, here is how we get rid of him, tell everyone that he caused and failed to correct the economic crash! Then tell everyone to vote for me!