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Old Posted Nov 1, 2008, 9:07 PM
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Lightbulb PHILADELPHIA | Waldorf=Astoria l 670 FT / 204 M l 58 FLOORS | Never Built

Waldorf=Astoria Hotel & Residences Philadelphia

Website: Waldorf=Astoria Hotel & Residences Philadelphia

Location: 1441 Chestnut St., Philadelphia, PA 19102
Usage: Hotel, condominium and retail space
Height: 670' (204 meters) Floors: 58
Architects: Cope Linder Architects
Developers:
• Mariner Commercial Properties, Inc.
• Gatehouse Capital Corporation
Estimated Cost: $420,000,000
Units/Condominium: 136 units
Units/Hotel: 175 rooms
Groundbreaking: January 2010
Completion: Spring 2012
Amenities/Features:
• 21,540-square-foot Ballroom Floor
• 5,600-square-foot column-free, day-lit Jewel Box Ballroom*
• 2,500-square-foot Pre-Function Space
• 2,500-square-foot Junior Ballroom
• 2,400 square feet of Meeting Space
• 14,000-square-foot spa & Precor Fitness Center with 46-foot indoor pool
• 7,000-square-foot five-star Signature Restaurant on Chestnut Street
• 2,000-square-foot Retail Boutique at the corner of 15th & Chestnut Streets • 350-car valet garage

Further reading: here and here and here and here.

Rendering by Cope Linder Architects

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Old Posted Nov 1, 2008, 9:58 PM
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Here's another, slightly outdated rendering (note the subtle differences between this one and the official, new one Swinefeld posted above):

rendering by Cope Linder Architects


And another REALLY OUTDATED rendering from the original proposal, which I think was something like 50 floors/585 or 615 feet (the histories of this proposal and that of the neighboring Residences at the Ritz are so long and convoluted, I can't remember):

rendering by Cope Linder Architects
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Old Posted Nov 1, 2008, 11:02 PM
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This will be some really nice infill in the already dense city hall area. Having a Ritz Carlton and Waldorf Astoria back-to-back to each other makes for some high class...right off the already classy Avenue of the Arts.
I like the design. Looking forward to seeing some additional renderings.

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Thanks, Swiney. Great start. Now WE can pile on.
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Old Posted Nov 2, 2008, 8:57 AM
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Wow thats really nice. Looks great...

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Here's another, slightly outdated rendering (note the subtle differences between this one and the official, new one Swinefeld posted above):

rendering by Cope Linder Architects
The Vertical lines in the new rendering do well to vault the attention upwards, expanding the scope and majesty of the height as opposed to the horizontal lines of the old rendering which do more to compress the building. Plus a much more elegant and grand entrance and an overall more polished rendering =) ... Leaves us a lot to be excited about!
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Old Posted Nov 2, 2008, 5:09 PM
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I really want to see more "final" renderings before I make a decision if I like it or not...but the one that swiney posted I'm not so fond of. I looks like Houston 1992 to me for some reason. Really not impressed...just seems 90's blah to me.
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i like the vertical lines better than the horizontal.
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Trying to not get too excited about this until i see a shovel hit the dirt.
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Given how long it has taken for this site to get going, I wont get too excited either.

That said, the proposal is nice and it's great that they updated the design after so many years from the other proposal floating around.
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It will hide the Ritz from the south! That sucks but otherwise I like it.
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2008, 3:21 AM
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I just noticed the little roof deck in the rendering for the first time. That's going to be one seriously killer view!
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What about the eight stories of parking garages?

http://www.phillyblog.com/philly/arc...ladelphia.html

And Mahoney says he's building the parking platform first! Although I want this thing to happen, I'm a little skeptical about having any aboveground parking at all on a site so close to City Hall.
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I can't help but think the vertical stripes make this design look very dated. I really don't want to stare at an 80's zebra on the horizon everytime I go to a Phillies game.
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I can't help but think the vertical stripes make this design look very dated. I really don't want to stare at an 80's zebra on the horizon everytime I go to a Phillies game.
then don't stare at it.
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2008, 2:27 AM
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I can't believe that Hilton/Waldorf Astoria would permit a new development to be announced unless it was like to move forward especially since this is one of the first to be built.
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For everyone that is saying the rendering with the vertical stripes makes the building look outdated. I think just that picture in general looks outdated, not the stripes, just the whole picture. Looks like it was taken 20 years ago.

But I do have to say that the renderings with the horizontal stripes look real good.
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Ritz - Hilton/Waldorf did not really make the announcement. Just as with other hotel/mixed use projects the hotel is merely allowing their brand to used. Take the RATR - it's a brand but with different developers. So the RATRs in LA, Toronto, etc. are just residential buildings that happen to be branded. In other words, these hotels are just along for the ride. It's not much different than the announcements of other "unbranded" projects.

That said, I really hope to see this project come into fruition. It will have a great impact on the skyline from all directions.
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2008, 6:24 PM
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They're supposed to be opening a sales center for the condo portion of the project early next year, right? Chris Shenian was the commercial agent who brokered the leasing of their space on Walnut St. if I remember correctly.
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Again?

This thing is back on the radar? I would like to see a nice building in that location. Hopefully by the time the building design is completed it is something that really stands out as special.

What are the odds though? I mean, we've been hearing about a building in that spot for a long, long time.
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