Originally Posted by WarrenC12
Search youtube for the WTO riot in Seattle, 1999, and to a lesser extent the G20 summit in Toronto for "active police involvement" in a riot, and tell me which scenario you prefer. Honestly I'm not sure, but those are the examples we have.
Granted there was a much more organized anarchist element involved in those riots.
Jim Chu said today that the Vancouver city council never denied a request for funding. I don't know if he's taking a hit for the Mayor or what, as I've seen the opposite reported as well.
There is a difference between organized riots and mob mentality.
The WTO in Seattle was a staged event by the protesters and they used very organized tactics to incite riot days before the event even happened. They had a large group and went down there and caused shit. The Seattle police also were late to react, thinking that the peaceful protesters would block the Black Bloc protesters. The Seattle downtown was filled with people who were looking to cause trouble.
In Vancouver, we had a crowd that was mostly upset hockey fans with a few agitators sprinkled around. When the agitators started smashing the car and flipping it, and nothing happened, other people joined in while everyone else just watched. It's like when I was a kid, and someone was being picked on in the school yard, everyone else would gather around and start picking on them too, until a teacher showed up when everyone would run. When there is no authority, people behave very strangely.
Most people were not there to be in a riot, but by the time the police did anything, there was one. Had the police shown force, most people would have fled early on or not joined in. Yes, by showing force there would have been some people who would retaliate, but anyone stupid enough to fight the police would have done it then, or like what happened done it later by the Bay or Sears.
The police took a long time to react, which encouraged people to move towards the violence (to gawk at it) instead of away, which in the end made it hard for police to react when they finally did. By taking time to react it only made the crowd feel safe in their behavior, which encouraged them to do what they did.