I've finnaly completed CITIC PLAZA!

Cliff · #1 Posted: **Oct 13, 2003, 1:14 PM**

I would'nt have started a tread just for one building, but this one means so much more to me than other boxes.

Believe it or not, Citic Plaza is my very first Asian glass box!
I spent 4 hours on it, longer than what I usually take, this also marks my 4th generation drawing, one that includes clouds, which was not my style at all.

Hope you like it!

Paulius · #2 Posted: **Oct 13, 2003, 1:53 PM**

Wow !

Now that's a really nice drawing ! 8)

coth · #3 Posted: **Oct 13, 2003, 2:23 PM**

looks great

but gif with 256 colors kill all idea

Cliff · #4 Posted: **Oct 14, 2003, 12:25 AM**

It's not in the primary, that means that I'll have to improve it.

I used manual diltering.
I dotted the whole facade.

Cliff · #5 Posted: **Oct 14, 2003, 12:40 AM**

If it's not good, please tell me, I'll try to furthur improve it.

I hope to get a spot.

And don't worry, I'll still spend time to make it better if it's needed even though I'm rushing on Petronas.

James Raymond · #6 Posted: **Oct 14, 2003, 12:43 AM**

It's an awesome drawing. You may want to put some cloud and/or building reflections on the facade if it does reflect. (I've never seen a good picture of the building). However, it is excellent!

Cliff · #7 Posted: **Oct 14, 2003, 12:52 AM**

Sorry, I needed to make a new building so you can compare, the other one will be deleted.

Ok, let's be honest, the one above is not nicee too right, well, I'm not satisfied with it either, so:

Jared · #8 Posted: **Oct 14, 2003, 2:21 AM**

cliff, at the top of the building, the contrast between the two sides is very visible. at the bottom, there isnt any. perhaps you could make the 1 side a bit darker and the other a bit lighter so people can see the difference between the two sides

Cliff · #9 Posted: **Oct 14, 2003, 2:27 AM**

That's supposed to be a glassy effect, because at the bottom the light is not so strong, and glass buildings don't show too much shadow.

But I can change it to make the whole right facade darker if you really think it would be better.

Cliff · #10 Posted: **Oct 14, 2003, 2:52 AM**

Okay, sisnce you did take an effort to give an opinion,

http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?drawingspending

Tony · #11 Posted: **Oct 14, 2003, 3:17 AM**

That's one sweet diagram you got there Cliff!

Cliff · #12 Posted: **Oct 14, 2003, 3:24 AM**

Thanks!

Cliff · #13 Posted: **Oct 14, 2003, 7:54 AM**

Please tell me why!:cry:

I'll do anything! Just tell me why is mine still an outcast!

Opps, sorry , I got a little carried away.

Just say it, What is it that makes this Citic unworthy to be in the primary, I'll be glad to improve it.

Thank you.

Buck · #14 Posted: **Oct 14, 2003, 12:01 PM**

Its kinda greyish also the left side is kinda thin, but I guess it depends on the angle you are at.

Overall it's fantastic, but I'm not positive it's as accurate as some of the others.

FRED · #15 Posted: **Oct 14, 2003, 4:11 PM**

Damn, nice !

James Raymond · #16 Posted: **Oct 14, 2003, 9:31 PM**

Actually, I found one thing that is wrong with all the drawings. Take a look at the base in this photo:

CITIC Plaza - ss.com

The legs at the corners of the base are not shear with the facade of the building. They're in a bit (looks like ~1m). However, that's the only thing I see wrong. The sign on Cliff's drawing has the correct colors and his antennae are thinner. Also, Cliff has the dots along the corners (lights or something?), while Kelvin's doesn't.

Kelvin's drawing is very good, but I think Cliff's might be more accurate at the top.

Cliff · #17 Posted: **Oct 15, 2003, 3:44 AM**

There is also something that I might add, the top of Citic is not the same for all four sides, there isn't the hole at the sides( if you are looking from the front.)
http://www.skyscrapers.com/re/en/im/df/140306/

All their drawings are 'symmetrical' that's why mine is tilted at only exactly 20 degrees because I'm not too sure and don't want to risk the accuracy.

Also, the base is almost square, and at an angle, it should be very narrow, so the diagrams (besides Buck's and Damien's) have their bases too low.

I hope the change of base can give me an advantage.

Thank you for your comments.

Cliff · #18 Posted: **Oct 15, 2003, 9:04 AM**

THANK YOU!

Cesar · #19 Posted: **Oct 16, 2003, 3:55 AM**

That's a beautiful drawing!!!!!

I love the detail.

I think that It will be better if you change the shape of the drawing, more smooth.

Cesar

Cliff · #20 Posted: **Oct 16, 2003, 10:32 AM**

I hope this gets through.
If I dosen't, I'll be happy to improve it like for Citic.