ATLANTA | Construction Thread V - Page 101

atl2phx · #**2001** Posted: **Dec 17, 2009, 5:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by ATLaffinity

residents in ATL have Comcast cable at maybe 12MB in a best case scenario.

this is probably going to be 100MB access for N. Georgia. for residents (or maybe i'm reading it wrong).

do any residents in Atlanta have fiber to the home?

this isn't providing fiber to the curb for north georgia either unless businesses or colleges choose to pay for direct access.

there is no fiber NETWORK in north georgia other than possibly where interstate or trans national fiber passes through without offering access.....it's always been cost prohibitive.

the way i understand it, this initiative will offer a fiber network where users (typically schools, businesses and apartments) can either get direct access off of this network or lease something like T1 access between their location and the network. i'm guessing single family homes will likely connect via DSL or some other access type (via existing copper wire), but being closer to the fiber makes the service more affordable, reliable and consistent in terms of access speeds (the further you are from the network, the more expensive it is and less effective transmission is, thus the reason they didn't initially connect the area to atlanta or charlotte's network).

Newnan_Eric · #**2002** Posted: **Dec 17, 2009, 5:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Terminus

Yes, directly adjacent to the BeltLine and apparently in violation of the urban design standards of the BeltLine Overlay zoning. It looks the City of Atlanta must have granted them a variation to build their typical suburban model. This is VERY disappointing after all the work that went into writing that ordinance.

It sucks that this is does not comply with the new ordinance, but CVS aren't that bad are they? I mean the relative size and configuration isn't necessarily anti-urban.

ajdelo · #**2003** Posted: **Dec 17, 2009, 5:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by atl2phx

this isn't providing fiber to the curb for north georgia either unless businesses or colleges choose to pay for direct access.

there is no fiber NETWORK in north georgia other than possibly where interstate or trans national fiber passes through without offering access.....it's always been cost prohibitive.

the way i understand it, this initiative will offer a fiber network where users (typically schools, businesses and apartments) can either get direct access off of this network or lease something like T1 access between their location and the network. i'm guessing single family homes will likely connect via DSL or some other access type (via existing copper wire), but being closer to the fiber makes the service more affordable, reliable and consistent in terms of access speeds (the further you are from the network, the more expensive it is and less effective transmission is, thus the reason they didn't initially connect the area to atlanta or charlotte's network).

Good points and I agree on all fronts. While it isn't the self-serving transit oriented MSA news we wanted to hear, I still think it is positive that the south, and ATL/CHA in general are being considered for federal stimulus money in some way, shape, or form. The southeast is so far behind in so many areas regarding infrastructure, it's rediculous.

Would I rather have a high speed train from New Orleans to B'ham to Atlanta to Charlotte to DC? Absolutely. Is this bad news? No way.

atl2phx · #**2004** Posted: **Dec 17, 2009, 5:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by ajdelo

Would I rather have a high speed train from New Orleans to B'ham to Atlanta to Charlotte to DC? Absolutely. Is this bad news? No way.

i with ya all the way......this isn't the multi-billion dollar transit announcement i was hoping for myself.

i'd love to see the state get SERIOUS about the concept3 projects and f the incremental road/tunnel/toll projects.

Pompuss · #**2005** Posted: **Dec 18, 2009, 1:18 AM**

Has anyone seen this? Is this going to happen?

Cityville Dunwoody is not the typical mixed-use development. Located in the City of Dunwoody on what was once extensive farm land owned by the Spruill Family (the surrounding area is now a fast paced, office, retail, and shopping mall district), this 650,000+SF mixed-use project consists of 299 Apartment units, a 45,000sf Arts Center & Gallery, 35,000 sf of ground floor Retail space, 704 structured parking spaces, all while accommodating the existing historic Spruill family farmhouse and log cabins which will remain on the 5.2 acre site in their current location.

briantech · #**2006** Posted: **Dec 18, 2009, 7:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by ATLaffinity

residents in ATL have Comcast cable at maybe 12MB in a best case scenario.

this is probably going to be 100MB access for N. Georgia. for residents (or maybe i'm reading it wrong).

do any residents in Atlanta have fiber to the home?

Buckhead and Midtown are actually heavy users of fiber. Any condo building built in the last few years includes fiber internet in its ameneties package, as far as I know.

sevensixtwo · #**2007** Posted: **Dec 18, 2009, 9:31 PM**

I think there's a little confusion. 1MB = 8Mb. No one on Comcast is getting 12MB. And when North Georgia gets 100 whatever it will be all the houses on the street sharing it.

pdpmishap · #**2008** Posted: **Dec 19, 2009, 3:14 PM**

I get a solid 81Mb/s and 28Mb/s up in my midtown condo which is far better than the 4Mb/s down I got for $45/mon at Comcast. My brother's 6Mb/s line from Comcast in Buckhead never broke 4Mb/s so he switched to Clear so his wife could get WiMax on her notebook.

Pessimistic Observer · #**2009** Posted: **Dec 19, 2009, 4:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by ATLaffinity

residents in ATL have Comcast cable at maybe 12MB in a best case scenario.

this is probably going to be 100MB access for N. Georgia. for residents (or maybe i'm reading it wrong).

do any residents in Atlanta have fiber to the home?

you are reading it wrong the govt isnt into providing internet access to anyone other than schools libraries and other govt facilities

cybele · #**2010** Posted: **Dec 19, 2009, 4:50 PM**

Here's WNYC's report on the grant. Sounds like we're gonna be hooked up just like those city slickers up North:

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"They’ve gone down to northern Georgia, which as you might imagine is a pretty rural area, and they’ve found a whole bunch of different small towns, lots of farming communities, that don’t have access to high speed internet access. So what they’ve done is they given a grant of some $180 million so that the northern Georgia network can build a 260 mile fiber optic ring, a loop of cable that’s in the ground and strung from telephone poles, that will connect all of these little farming communities one to another, so that all these households, tens of thousands, can get access to the same kinds of high speed internet products that are available in big cities like Washington and New York."

On The Media

atl2phx · #**2011** Posted: **Dec 19, 2009, 5:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Pessimistic Observer

you are reading it wrong the govt isnt into providing internet access to anyone other than schools libraries and other govt facilities

you are probably interpreting the article too literally.

this project does one thing which is provide internet ACCESS: it provides the capital to build a fiber optic ring in north georgia that will connect to existing urban networks (i.e. atlanta and charlotte). in doing so, communities, businesses, learning institutions AND residents will have ACCESS to broadband internet.

this project does NOT provide SERVICE: SERVICE will be provided by the utility or co-operative that will manage the network. in offering internet SERVICE, businesses, schools, govt facilities, AND residents will have the opportunity to BUY high speed internet SERVICE from this provider. so yes, residents will have ACCESS to buy SERVICE, although at what will be at much lower upload/download speeds because they will have to connect to the fiber indirectly. it also doesn't drop fiber to the curb of every address in north georgia. instead some access methods (like residential) will be indirect access. end users are not getting FREE INTERNET, they will still have to pay for it, however, it will be at a much lower rate than if it AT&T (or any other private provider) had set up the network and had to recoup the costs in such a sparsely populated and (generally poor) part of north georgia.

the big deal here is that, through the stimulus package, north georgia will get fiber optic internet infrastructure that delivers trude BROADBAND ACCESS where it wasn't available before.

atl2phx · #**2012** Posted: **Dec 19, 2009, 5:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by cybele

Here's WNYC's report on the grant. Sounds like we're gonna be hooked up just like those city slickers up North:

north? as in alpharetta?

by the way, the quote of $180MM is misleading, north georgia is getting $33MM, the rest is going to other similar initiatives across the country.

micropundit · #**2013** Posted: **Dec 19, 2009, 5:55 PM**

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micropundit · #**2014** Posted: **Dec 19, 2009, 5:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by atl2phx

you are probably interpreting the article too literally.

this project does one thing which is provide internet ACCESS: it provides the capital to build a fiber optic ring in north georgia that will connect to existing urban networks (i.e. atlanta and charlotte). in doing so, communities, businesses, learning institutions AND residents will have ACCESS to broadband internet.

this project does NOT provide SERVICE: SERVICE will be provided by the utility or co-operative that will manage the network. in offering internet SERVICE, businesses, schools, govt facilities, AND residents will have the opportunity to BUY high speed internet SERVICE from this provider. so yes, residents will have ACCESS to buy SERVICE, although at what will be at much lower upload/download speeds because they will have to connect to the fiber indirectly. it also doesn't drop fiber to the curb of every address in north georgia. instead some access methods (like residential) will be indirect access. end users are not getting FREE INTERNET, they will still have to pay for it, however, it will be at a much lower rate than if it AT&T (or any other private provider) had set up the network and had to recoup the costs in such a sparsely populated and (generally poor) part of north georgia.

the big deal here is that, through the stimulus package, north georgia will get fiber optic internet infrastructure that delivers trude BROADBAND ACCESS where it wasn't available before.

Good and detailed explaination of an important milestone for Georgia.now that North Georgia has gotten their stimulas funding maybe the way has been cleared for Atlanta to recieve federal transit funding without further opposition from the current state administration

atl2phx · #**2015** Posted: **Dec 19, 2009, 6:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by micropundit

Good and detailed explaination of an important milestone for Georgia.now that North Georgia has gotten their stimulas funding maybe the way has been cleared for Atlanta to recieve federal transit funding without further opposition from the current state administration

i think we have reason to be hopefully optimistic (at least for the next year or so).

with a new mayor, new speaker of the house (who i understand to be moderate), new (transit oriented) leader of the ARC, and a GDOT that seems to at least be aware that they have to do something about traffic, i hope things will fall in line for concept3 initiatives.

i also hope and wish people would rally against auto-dependent proposals within the perimeter such as the toll tunnel.

cybele · #**2016** Posted: **Dec 19, 2009, 6:41 PM**

I can't for the life of me see how that consarned tunnel does anybody one iota of good. Just one more waste of the taxpayer's hard-earned dollar.

skapunkskatedude · #**2017** Posted: **Dec 25, 2009, 8:29 AM**

Why, i hope all of you have a very merry Christmas (or any other holiday you may be celebrating)

Fiorenza · #**2018** Posted: **Dec 26, 2009, 4:31 AM**

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Bigger is better!

in your mind?

kingkool · #**2019** Posted: **Dec 29, 2009, 4:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by ATLaffinity

residents in ATL have Comcast cable at maybe 12MB in a best case scenario.

this is probably going to be 100MB access for N. Georgia. for residents (or maybe i'm reading it wrong).

do any residents in Atlanta have fiber to the home?

Most midtown condos have fiber, about $20 a month for ~75Mb/s download and something like 30mb/s upload.

cybele · #**2020** Posted: **Dec 30, 2009, 6:05 PM**

Atlanta to end 2009 with 20.2% office vacancy rate

Well at least it's not as bad as it was in 2004.