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Old Posted Mar 17, 2012, 2:02 AM
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Have you heard the recent story about OLG's restructuring?
Unfortunately.

Instead of being honest and upfront about taxation, the government is going to start targeting the most vulnerable people in society in order to make up their deficit.
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Western Fair already has plans to buy properties between Rectory & Ontario Streets, building a hotel among other things. I remember these plans being published and Fontana and some of council not being happy since it creates a Western Fair vs. Downtown revitalization battle.

While it is bad for other communities hopefully re-organization of casinos would help London's economy, and gets some more business
Even if there are improvements made to the Western Fair, it doesn't have to be an "us versus them" situation. I can't see why in a city the size of London why there can't be more than one major hub destination. After all, the city seem to have no problem creating massive shopping hubs that attract tons of traffic.
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seems like one cities loss and another gain. OLG shut down the Slot operations at Windsor Raceway, laying off 250 people. If London benefits thats great, but i think that the OLG would be shooting itself in the foot by building a casino in London. With Casinos in Niagara, a possible one in Toronto and in Windsor, theres no real need to build one in London. With Caesars Windsors profits being eaten up by Casinos in Detroit and Toledo, Adding one in London would just be another shot in the foot by OLG right after they put $400M into new construction at Caesars Windsor.
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Well if London were to get a casino I would assume it would be more like the one in Brantford (charity casino) opposed to something like Caesars Windsor. No hotel rooms or convention halls or anything of the like, just a gaming floor.

I doubt this will have much effect on Caesars Windsor. There are other casinos closer to London than Windsor (like Sarnia and Brantford) so I could see a minimal loss at these establishments.

Most Londoners who are going to Windsor or Niagara Falls to gamble are going for more of a vacation rather than a casino trip.

In addition, I took a look at the figures at the Western Fair slots. It generates over $100 million in revenue annually... That's insane, especially due to the fact that it isn't a casino. It blows other regional raceway track slot revenues out of the water.

(Plus I'm a sucker for Blackjack... I want tables here, although that may tempt me to play more )
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i dont know, as far as i know the casino in Toledo OH, is just a gaming floor and it has a lot of people in Windsor and Detroit very nervous about the impact. Yes there are casinos closer to London but the lure of gambling is lost on the young crowed if they grow up with it, it makes Windsor and the OLGs investment less lucrative for the party crowd of London. The effects would be felt over time.
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I really can't see the logic of putting any kind of casino in London when business is so slow everywhere. Doing so would just poach money and patrons from other casino's in Ontario, as oppossed to growing the market. Ontario needs to protect and strengthen it's existing casino's, not weaken them.
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I really can't see the logic of putting any kind of casino in London when business is so slow everywhere. Doing so would just poach money and patrons from other casino's in Ontario, as oppossed to growing the market. Ontario needs to protect and strengthen it's existing casino's, not weaken them.
Yet Chatham-Kent, a 'decaying' city is being considered by the OLG to get a casino.

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I'm baffeled by that one too. If there was to be another casino in southwestern Ontario, it should be in London where there is a much greater population base. Who is making these decissions?
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I'm baffeled by that one too. If there was to be another casino in southwestern Ontario, it should be in London where there is a much greater population base. Who is making these decissions?
The only, and I mean ONLY reason I can think of for locating a casino in C-K, is because of its central location between London and Windsor. If one is located there though, then Kitchener-Waterloo or Hamilton would be natural locations for other casinos. It would probably also mean nothing for London.

I think it would be a stupid move. I'd rather see Windsor keep its casino and London get a small casino, and then maybe a casino in the GTA.
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I think all the big cities in Ontario should get a casino. Think of the money they will pour into the municipal coffers.

Sure that may mean less business at existing casinos like Windsor and Niagara Falls, but those are tourist destinations as well. Plus they have hotel rooms, showrooms and whatnot, whereas all we'd have here is a small gaming floor.

I remember several years back that the Paddock Lounge (I think that's what it's called) at the Western Fair used to hold a charity casino while the fair was in session.
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I dont understand the thought of a casino in C-K, possibly a racetrack but not a Casino, i mean you can practically see the lights from Windsor from there . it makes no sense.
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I just thought of an idea I don't think anyone else has thought of...

Casino St. Thomas! It could really help revitalize their sh*tty downtown.
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I need to go to St Thomas one day, it sounds so white trash and ghetto.
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I need to go to St Thomas one day, it sounds so white trash and ghetto.
Oh it is. Sometimes I forget I'm even in Canada while I'm there, but luckily there's metric and bilingual signs to help remind me.
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There's 25% more ____, in St. Thomas.
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Oh it is. Sometimes I forget I'm even in Canada while I'm there, but luckily there's metric and bilingual signs to help remind me.
You don't even need to go to St. Thomas. Pretty much all of London east of Highbury Avenue and south of Commissioner's Road looks like 'Murrhica at full force. I find some of the areas out near the VMP (Admiral Drive, specifically) to be particularly unattractive and sprawly.
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I heard that Timkin (ball bearings) is closing in...yup you guessed it, St. Thomas. when will the job hemorrhage ever end?
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I dont understand the thought of a casino in C-K, possibly a racetrack but not a Casino, i mean you can practically see the lights from Windsor from there . it makes no sense.
I remember in 1994 just before Casino Windsor opened there was so much concern that a casino would cause an increase in crime and homelessness and many people considered it morally wrong just to build one. Wow, this province has come a long way.
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St. Thomas needs a casino. It sure helped Springfield when it was suffering!
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