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Mille Sabords · #21 Posted: **May 14, 2009, 1:43 AM**

Like many others have said, great looking building, playful architecture and imaginative use of a tiny site. It will be close to York Plaza, so there may not be much of a view assuming there are even windows in the back wall. And the street level interaction leaves much to be desired. I always thought East Market way underperformed in this department too; they should have put in more retail all along Cumberland - it's certainly close enough to the action to warrant more than a billiards room and a couple of stationary bikes. Same goes for this 360 project.

highdensitysprawl · #22 Posted: **May 14, 2009, 1:58 AM**

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I'm sorry, but when I'm about to make the biggest purchase in my life, a 40 odd second youtube video with nary a mention of one single feature of the interior of the unit isn't going to cut it for me. Sure there are lots of places to get pissed nearby, trendy restaurants at your doorstep but the units could be made of MDF for all the information in that video link.

Style over substance in my books.

Despite all that negativity, if the girl on the right is thrown into the equation, I may not think so rationally.

waterloowarrior · #23 Posted: **May 14, 2009, 2:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by highdensitysprawl

I'm sorry, but when I'm about to make the biggest purchase in my life, a 40 odd second youtube video with nary a mention of one single feature of the interior of the unit isn't going to cut it for me. Sure there are lots of places to get pissed nearby, trendy restaurants at your doorstep but the units could be made of MDF for all the information in that video link.

Style over substance in my books.

Despite all that negativity, if the girl on the right is thrown into the equation, I may not think so rationally.

haha... when I was looking at SSP in the morning I thought I had accidently posted the wrong youtube video the night before, until I saw the render at the end.

12 hot galleries
27 great restuarants
36 new outfits
89 unique drinks
1 new friend
All this adds up to 360 [actually it only adds up to 164

]

kwoldtimer · #24 Posted: **May 15, 2009, 12:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

haha... when I was looking at SSP in the morning I thought I had accidently posted the wrong youtube video the night before, until I saw the render at the end.

12 hot galleries
27 great restuarants
36 new outfits
89 unique drinks
1 new friend
All this adds up to 360 [actually it only adds up to 164

]

Perhaps the 360 is for the number of square feet in each unit

Actually, I suspect that this project will sell well given the proximity to the Market.

YOWetal · #25 Posted: **May 15, 2009, 1:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mille Sabords

Like many others have said, great looking building, playful architecture and imaginative use of a tiny site. It will be close to York Plaza, so there may not be much of a view assuming there are even windows in the back wall. And the street level interaction leaves much to be desired. I always thought East Market way underperformed in this department too; they should have put in more retail all along Cumberland - it's certainly close enough to the action to warrant more than a billiards room and a couple of stationary bikes. Same goes for this 360 project.

Easy to say but not a big demand for retail across from the shelter in a quieter corner of the market. The retail units they have aren't exactly high rent, and the last retail condo that was put up for sale took 8 months to sell.

Mille Sabords · #26 Posted: **May 15, 2009, 1:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by YOWetal

Easy to say but not a big demand for retail across from the shelter in a quieter corner of the market. The retail units they have aren't exactly high rent, and the last retail condo that was put up for sale took 8 months to sell.

I see that comment as reflective of the "junior" state of our city when it comes to mixed use buildings. Urban Capital has learned, Domicile less so, that you have to actively and aggressively "sell" your retail space as much as your condos. This is the Byward Market, and the building itself will be something of a head-turner, so I don't buy the "hard to sell" brush-off.

Urban Capital is much more diligent now about personally approaching retailers (big ones, like Shoppers) and getting them to commit to retail space. You can't just build a storefront, put a For Lease sign on it and hope for the best. Domicile appears to still do this (although in their case, they severely restrict the types of stores they accept in their buildings). I mean, in the ByWard Market, you can practically go knock on doors to all the little independent boutiques and offer them space in this funky new building.

At the very least, you can design a ground floor unit to look like a store and sell it as a "live-work" unit, and let time work its magic. Eventually, it becomes a store.

Ryersonian · #27 Posted: **May 15, 2009, 5:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mille Sabords

I see that comment as reflective of the "junior" state of our city when it comes to mixed use buildings. Urban Capital has learned, Domicile less so, that you have to actively and aggressively "sell" your retail space as much as your condos. This is the Byward Market, and the building itself will be something of a head-turner, so I don't buy the "hard to sell" brush-off.

Urban Capital is much more diligent now about personally approaching retailers (big ones, like Shoppers) and getting them to commit to retail space. You can't just build a storefront, put a For Lease sign on it and hope for the best. Domicile appears to still do this (although in their case, they severely restrict the types of stores they accept in their buildings). I mean, in the ByWard Market, you can practically go knock on doors to all the little independent boutiques and offer them space in this funky new building.

At the very least, you can design a ground floor unit to look like a store and sell it as a "live-work" unit, and let time work its magic. Eventually, it becomes a store.

Do we have a suitable live/work zone available in Ottawa? You'd have to hope so after just pulling all our by-laws together, but I'm not sure; anybody?

Ryersonian · #28 Posted: **May 15, 2009, 5:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ryersonian

Do we have a suitable live/work zone available in Ottawa? You'd have to hope so after just pulling all our by-laws together, but I'm not sure; anybody?

Ah, answered my own question:

http://www.ottawa.ca/residents/bylaw...dex_en-08.html

Zach6668 · #29 Posted: **Jun 7, 2009, 1:05 AM**

I signed up for the site a while ago, and got an email today telling me the website as launched. I think you need to sign up, because they sent me my username and password, I don't know if it's unique to me or what.

http://360lofts.com

All the prices and floor plans are up.

I don't know how I feel about them. Some are nice, but I don't like the lack of balconies. The 2 story units are kinda cool, but I'd rather have room for an office or something that overhangs my living area, rather than just the hallway to the terrace.

waterloowarrior · #30 Posted: **Jun 7, 2009, 1:16 AM**

^ http://www.360lofts.ca

Zach6668 · #31 Posted: **Jun 7, 2009, 1:52 AM**

Bah, my bad. Should have just copied and pasted, but I was lazy.

YOWetal · #32 Posted: **Jun 8, 2009, 2:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zach6668

I signed up for the site a while ago, and got an email today telling me the website as launched. I think you need to sign up, because they sent me my username and password, I don't know if it's unique to me or what.

http://360lofts.com

All the prices and floor plans are up.

I don't know how I feel about them. Some are nice, but I don't like the lack of balconies. The 2 story units are kinda cool, but I'd rather have room for an office or something that overhangs my living area, rather than just the hallway to the terrace.

Seem overpriced to me. They are priced above similar sized units on the lower floors in East Market.

So much for "cheaper" wood construction. Too bad, as I was thinking about buying one as an investment.

waterloowarrior · #33 Posted: **Jun 8, 2009, 10:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

haha... when I was looking at SSP in the morning I thought I had accidently posted the wrong youtube video the night before, until I saw the render at the end.

12 hot galleries
27 great restuarants
36 new outfits
89 unique drinks
1 new friend
All this adds up to 360 [actually it only adds up to 164

]

here's the newest equation from the pre-sale site... looks like they still have to work on the math

It all adds up to... 307

waterloowarrior · #34 Posted: **Jun 8, 2009, 10:24 PM**

Average price PSF is about $465 (excluding parking)

kwoldtimer · #35 Posted: **Jun 8, 2009, 10:57 PM**

Brutal! I guess the good news is that the total price doesn't look too bad if you are willing to live in a small enough space. First time buyers will likely still bite.

waterloowarrior · #36 Posted: **Jun 9, 2009, 12:49 AM**

here's some info...

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The 360Lofts website is now live!
Come and check out the hottest condo development to hit the city. Your registration provides you with immediate and exclusive access to the website before it goes live to the public on Saturday June 13th. You also have the ability to purchase a unit before they go on sale to the general public. To access the website use the following login and password:

LOGIN: 360lofts
PASSWORD: pre2009

www.360lofts.ca

Want to buy a unit?
Get one before they're gone! Your registration gives your the exclusive opportunity to purchase a unit before they go on sale to the general public. Units may be purchased by appointment only starting Saturday June 13th. Contact the sales centre to book an appointment and to ensure you're first in line to make a selection of one of our exciting boutique condos.

To make an appointment please call 613.222.9800

Zach6668 · #37 Posted: **Jun 9, 2009, 1:46 AM**

I'm so underwhelmed by the floorplans.

I want a 2-bedroom, but I want it for less than the market price these days (good luck, I know).

I need to make more money, I think that's the problem. Or just not waste so much. That too.

Mille Sabords · #38 Posted: **Jun 9, 2009, 2:34 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zach6668

I'm so underwhelmed by the floorplans.

I want a 2-bedroom, but I want it for less than the market price these days (good luck, I know).

I need to make more money, I think that's the problem. Or just not waste so much. That too.

Well, the good thing about having small living quarters is that you're forced not to accumulate a lot of shit. Myself, every time I've moved, I've easily filled 5-6 garbage bags of stuff that became useless over time.

This aside, the real surprise for me is the two-storey lofts. Why not have some of the second level as a bedroom or a den? Why is it all open like that? There's a waste.

YOWetal · #39 Posted: **Jun 9, 2009, 5:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

Average price PSF is about $465 (excluding parking)

Wow, granted some of those units have large terraces but some also have small balconies facing a shelter or the side of a building. Again so much for wood contstruction being cheaper. I don't think they will do that well in this market at those prices, but we'll see.

waterloowarrior · #40 Posted: **Jun 16, 2009, 1:31 AM**

360Lofts Record Breaking Weekend - 68% SOLD OUT!

Thanks to you this opening weekend was the fastest and most successful sales launch in the city of Ottawa! Congratulations to everyone who purchased a unit and helped us reach a sales mark of 68% in only 48hrs. A terrific start to what will be the most exciting condo this city has seen!