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Old Posted Feb 27, 2010, 8:46 PM
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And the comment about his grammar was after he pointed out someone else spelling a word wrong.
After likely feeling a little self-concious about some of the mistakes on his previous posts, perhaps rather than a criticism, perhaps Projects was only trying to make a point here, that he isn't daft and can recognize spelling errors, But really, most, including me, could care less if someone makes a spelling or grammar error; What matters is the idea.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2010, 12:06 AM
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I agree, most couldn't care less in a discussion forum. But we all know if you point out others errors then you should probably expect a similar treatment.
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Don't get me wrong--I love the MUAH building and all of those great details; but if it's a theater that will seat what, 1,000 people? wouldn't that be too narrow a lobby/entrance to get people in and out in a timely or even safe manner? There might be a way to expand that room to the north and south and preserve that arching ceiling as a centerpiece, but as the building now stands, it seems too narrow for what they've got planned. It'll be a shame to lose that if they wreck it, but I don't see an "easy" way to save it or incorporate it into the new theater.
I've been thinking the same thing as Jedi. It would be great though, to see UB's rendering come to fruition. Can anyone who is acquainted with the MUAH tell us if it would be possible from both a structural standpoint and adjacent space, to punch large, open archways in those side walls. It would look incredible too, if they were able to do that.

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A few photos of the Salt Lake City area from this morning.







     
     
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A few photos of the Salt Lake City area from this morning.

Great pics

IMO, this is the stuff that gives a city character. Along with signs like the Walker Bank and First Security signs.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 28, 2010, 6:19 AM
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Tmac, downtown looks so small from up there doesn't it?


In other news, more investment in Utah and downtown Salt Lake:

Major electronics game company expanding to Salt Lake City
Summit » Decision highlights maturing of Utah's digital media industry.

By Tom Harvey

The Salt Lake Tribune
Updated: 02/26/2010 06:22:44 PM MST


Electronic Arts, one of the leading producers of digital games, says it is expanding its Utah studio and moving it into a larger office in downtown Salt Lake City to start on a "groundbreaking" new project.

That announcement comes just days before a summit of the Utah's digital media industry that is being billed as a representing the maturity of the industry that has long roots here.

Electronic Arts Executive Producer Ben Bell said the company would be hiring for the new Salt Lake City office. It currently has an office in Bountiful; a spokesperson said she would not immediately say whether that office will remain.

"Salt Lake City already has a strong game development community and the base of talent here is deep," Bell said in a written question-and-answer session provided by the company. "Historically, the game development scene in Salt Lake goes back several decades, and now there are hundreds of people in the region working on games."

He declined to provide information on the new project.

Companies that make video games, create animation, movies and other media, employ over 475 people directly and over 1,575 Utahns indirectly, according to a report by the Utah Economic Development Corporation of Utah. Though relatively small in numbers, Utah is the fourth largest state per capita for the number of multimedia artists and animators, according to the report.

Those types of numbers are part of the reason that Grow Utah Ventures has organized the Push Button Summit 2010 on March 9-10. The sponsors, a group that promotes economic development in Utah, hopes to bring together the industry for a chance to hear advice from panel members and to hobnob with fellow practitioners of the electronic arts.

"There's a lot of momentum here, said T. Craig Bott, president and CEO of Grow Utah Ventures. "We think we can get more momentum and more success. With a summit like this, one of our objectives is to begin to recognize among ourselves the significance of this industry."

Headlining the summit are John Warnock, the founder of Adobe Systems, and Ian McKerlich, director of mobile Internet and content for T-Mobile.

The presence of Warnock is a reminder that the growth of digital media has a history in Utah. Warnock graduated from the University of Utah in 1969 with a Ph.D. in electrical engineering. That era also spawned the creation of Evans & Sutherland, a pioneering company in computer graphics started by university faculty members. The U.'s Tom Stockham created the field of digital recording.

Besides Adobe Systems, graduates went on to found Pixar Animation Studios, Silicon Graphics and WordPerfect.

Now, Brigham Young University has a strong animation program, which has won four student Academy Awards and nine student Emmys, The University of Utah teaches game development, as well as computer engineering, while other state schools also turn out graduates with skills of use to the digital media industry.

Utah is home to some 60 digital media and film companies, including the expanding office of Electronic Arts and Disney Interactive Studios.

While Utah has a vibrant sector, its wages lag the national mean salary. Film and video editors make only about 60 percent of the national mean, while artists and illustrators make nearly 88 percent.

But the wages and a lower cost of living may be one reason Electronic Arts is expanding and moving its operations in Utah. The company last year announced plans to lay off 1,500 people. Electronic Arts CEO John Riccitiello was quoted in December as saying the company was looking to have a presence in lower-cost areas outside of California.

Bell said that a team of experienced developers from the company's Sims Studio in Redwood Shores, Calif., are moving to Salt Lake City to kick off a new project and that the company would be hiring for "key positions."

"Some of the talent will come from EA's Salt Lake Studio," he said. "We are also looking for new talent from university programs as the project gains momentum, so we will have a great blend of people from different backgrounds."

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Tmac, downtown looks so small from up there doesn't it?
A convention hotel would help that:



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It appears the Broadway Park Lofts have finally topped out. Looks pretty good.
     
     
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Updates - Trolley Square

Trolley Wing Co. moved for construction

Deseret News - SALT LAKE CITY — A Trolley Square icon is going away — for now, at least.

The trolley car near the tower, home of the Trolley Wing Co., will be shuttered and moved as construction continues on the Whole Foods store there.

"Trolley Wing will be closed down temporarily," said Dawn Katter, property manager for Trolley Square. "We're just working right now through some logistics, and it will probably be back open within a month at a temporary location."

The trolley car, meanwhile, will be moved to the other side of 600 South.

At the iconic tavern, however, regulars did not seem hopeful the business would remain at Trolley Square.

The 150 mugs belonging to the tavern's faithful regulars had dwindled to 15 or so.

"There's a lot of history at this place," manager Rob Dutton said of the trolley car, which has been home to coffee shops, banks and souvenir shops.

Some complained of "big business pushing the little guy around."

But owner Jess Wilkerson said he believed his business could find a permanent location on the historic property.

"Our long-term goal is to find a permanent home," Katter said.

She said the business and the car could reopen next fall.

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From downtownrising.com:
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"The Six Gateway is the sixth office building at The Gateway and is comprised of approximately 105,000 square feet of Class A office space found at the end of Rio Grande Street. This project will cap off the northern portion of The Gateway, bringing the office space total to approximately 760,000 square feet, which is roughly the equivalent amount of space as the combined square footage of two of downtown's largest office towers. Six Gateway will be positioned adjacent to the newly built 128-room Hyatt Place hotel and amidst restaurants, cultural, entertainment and shopping. Each floor plate will be approximately 22,000 square feet and the Six Gateway's building finishes will be top-notch."

I like the red brick in the older rendering better.
     
     
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Great News and I haven't come across anything about it yet. Goldman Sachs will be taking over the remaining space in 222s main by the end of the year! They probably wont announce it for a while but a good friend works for them and said that they will be taking up the remaining 222s main!! Looks like well need more class A office space soon between GS and EA moving downtown!
     
     
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Now that is worthy news to comment on!

More demand for office towers I hope will be on the horizon. In personally want it to be in the sheer vertical form, instead of the crayon box stubby type (gateway)...
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I think a great place to relocate the Post Office to, in order to free up space for a convention hotel, would be moving it into the retail space at 222 South Main. This way it's more accessible to public transportation, and close to UPS and FedEx.
     
     
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I think a great place to relocate the Post Office to, in order to free up space for a convention hotel, would be moving it into the retail space at 222 South Main. This way it's more accessible to public transportation, and close to UPS and FedEx.
Either there or someplace in CCC is a great idea--there had been one on the first floor of the ZCMI Center, and it was always busy. All of those businesses and their employees need a downtown location that's more accessible, and then we could get rid of that abomination on 200 South. And build a big ol' hotel on it.
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Except for the technical requirements, such as parking for delivery vehicles. A walk in branch would be fine, but the main post office for this part of town needs to be located where they can be the most efficient. Main St. is not that place, nor is within a mall.
     
     
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Yes and no, I think 222 would be a great location for a branch of the downtown post office, or one in or around CCC. The main place for trucks doesn't need to be in the CBD and could be accommodated in a more industrial area of the city. Having multiple walk up locations throughout the city would be more ideal, IMO. One on Main somewhere between S. Temple and 300 S, with another one on 200 S between 200 W and 400 W. they could even provide a drive through location somewhere along a major corridor, for those dropping things off on their way home from work in their cars.
     
     
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That is pretty much what I said, only i was not as specific. The downtown post office serves more than just downtown. it serves a number of zip codes, routes and sorts mail and serves as a base for those routes within the zip codes. By federal law, they need to meet certain requirements, including having the branch located within the zip codes it serves and the ability to store small delivery vehicles for each route within the service area. It is not quite an act of congress to relocate a post office, but close to it.

Small scale branches that are nothing more than a staffed mailed box where you can buy stamps and mail things that cannot go into a mail box are much easier to locate, but the post office has to see a warrant for one. I think something like this on Main could work, but there is not likely the warrant for multiple locations right now or in the near future.
     
     
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There is parking and loading and unloading docks for service vehicles at 222 South Main cololi. Have you not explored the parking garage and the back side of 222 South Main yet?
     
     
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There is parking and loading and unloading docks for service vehicles at 222 South Main cololi. Have you not explored the parking garage and the back side of 222 South Main yet?
Yes, I have toured it thank you very much.

It is not as simple as it may sound. 222 is parked way below the market demand. Once it is full, there will be very little available parking. The post office requires secured, gated parking that they can isolate from other facilities. They will not share loading/unloading with the rest of the buildings tenants. They need to separate it. If it is a small scale deal where a truck comes and picks up mail a few times a day, it is a different story. But to operate the official postal branch for the service area at 222 is not going to work.
     
     
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right then...

How about somewhere along 300 West and near 500 or 600 South for the main Post Office and then smaller branches throughout the business district? Or how about moving the Post Office across the street?

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