I just blew my own mind.
I need help picking up the pieces and being told that I'm full of it (I welcome it). I don't know if it took you disproving the Shilo Inn site, but I'm really wondering about the necessity of building a convention center hotel adjacent to the Convention Center. Is it really a convention center hotel because of proximity or because of the convention space inside? How does the one influence the success of the other?
I admit I don't know enough to argue either way, but consider this:
Developers and cities by default often put the parking adjacent or under a mall or lifestyle center.
In Portland the city actually offered the department stores Meier & Frank and Macy's two new parking garages (all expenses paid for) so that the city could place them a couple of blocks away from the stores.
Incorporating ideas from Jane Jacobs about creating foot traffic through the city to access different uses went against the standard practice of department stores and malls.
The move was a success and the retail between the parking garages and the department stores has thrived from all the foot traffic.
There are malls that lack faith in new urban principles (think skybridge and Taubman).
Do we lack faith in these principles? It may just be possible that a one size fits all of having the convention center hotel adjacent to the Convention Center isn't an ideal way to go. And just like with Portland, it may not even be requisite for the success of the development or enjoyment of its patrons to place it adjacent to the other half of its use.
So I humbly ask 3 things:
1). What convention center hotel location will best improve our skyline (how does its density and placement best jive with Salt Lake City's General Plan)?
2). What convention center hotel location will best serve the existing businesses
3). How far can one build a convention center hotel from a convention center taking into account ease of street accessibility via pedestrian movement, bikes, transit, and cars (what are the precedents for cities with convention centers in denser areas)?
City Creek Center required a lot of compromises because it was a savior from our city's previously horrible decisions, we aren't in trouble yet with this new convention center hotel, so why are we so insistent on a one size fits all adjacent approach? Especially if the city is footing the bill on the parking accommodations for this thing.