Metro Vancouver 2041 -Draft Plan-

[jlousa]

As many of you know Metro Vancouver has been working on it's 2041 plan for the region. There have been numerous meeting and there are still a few left. Hopefully most of you will have attended at least one of them before they're done. Just wanted to share with you the draft plan. There will be a few changes to it but this should give you a very good idea of what's in store.

http://www.metrovancouver.org/planni...RGSFeb2009.pdf

PS I suggest you d/l the file first before opening it as it's quite large (~5mb)

[Alex Mackinnon]

Heh, no Serpentine freeway, no Stormont connector. It doesn't really say many specifics.

[David]

Originally Posted by Alex Mackinnon

Heh, no Serpentine freeway, no Stormont connector. It doesn't really say many specifics.

I dont think the construction of freeways would really have a place in a sustainable region plan

[vansky]

a population of 2.8 in 10 years would need how many more condos? maybe 1000 more? 1000 more condos would change the look when you fly through this small region.

[DKaz]

Originally Posted by Alex Mackinnon

Heh, no Serpentine freeway, no Stormont connector.

I believe both would be provinicial projects anyway.

[red-paladin]

I wrote a letter to Kevin Falcon, and he says the Stormont connector may happen one day, but the provincial government and none of the municipal governments want it right now.

[metroXpress]

^ may happen?

Looks like Surrey City Centre would be one of the Metro Centres....

[jlousa]

Reviving this from the brink of death as the COV has some proposed changes on their agenda next week. The regional plan affects us a lot more then most people realize.

http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/...ents/penv2.pdf

[excel]

Surrey has an impressive growth rate:

[NetMapel]

Employment total is slightly over half of population total. That doesn't look good... ?

[jlousa]

That's pretty normal when you consider pretty well 0% of anyone under 16 works and then almost 0% of anyone over say 67. You probably end up with ~80% of people between the age of 18-65 working.

[agrant]

Originally Posted by excel

Surrey has an impressive growth rate:

Safe to say we can look forward to further expansion to our water crossings.

[Mininari]

and plenty more opposition and protest to said water crossing upgrades

[allan_kuan]

well... if it continues to be road expansions... then i'd be more reluctant to let those go... if however we were expanding transit (like a second rapid transit line to the South of Fraser), that'd be a different story...

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by excel

Surrey has an impressive growth rate:

Pretty bold to predict things into 2041.

As for water crossings.. nothing the new PMB can't handle. Bring on the toll money!!

[SpikePhanta]

Wow Surrey population will be hugee!

[WBC]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Pretty bold to predict things into 2041.

As for water crossings.. nothing the new PMB can't handle. Bring on the toll money!!

I don't know that I would use the word "bold". Some other words come to mind...

Let's see - 30 years ago was 1980. What were people thinking then? Did they foresee:

- the end of cold war?
- internet?
- personal computers?
- peak oil?
- cell phones?
- working from home?
- stockmarket ride
- Vancouver real estate being the most expensive in NA?
- Hong Kong handover?
- Rise of China?

Then again you need to have some sort of general strategy I suppose.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by WBC

I don't know that I would use the word "bold". Some other words come to mind...

Let's see - 30 years ago was 1980. What were people thinking then? Did they foresee:

- the end of cold war?
- internet?
- personal computers?
- peak oil?
- cell phones?
- working from home?
- stockmarket ride
- Vancouver real estate being the most expensive in NA?
- Hong Kong handover?
- Rise of China?

Then again you need to have some sort of general strategy I suppose.

Interesting perspective. Things change so fast, and in such unexpected, unforseeable ways. Perhaps some readers are thinking of 2040 as a bigger Vancouver, yet somehow similar - on a large scale - to what we have now. It may permutate into something we never bargained for, but who knows ......

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by WBC

I don't know that I would use the word "bold". Some other words come to mind...

Let's see - 30 years ago was 1980. What were people thinking then? Did they foresee:

- the end of cold war?
- internet?
- personal computers?
- peak oil?
- cell phones?
- working from home?
- stockmarket ride
- Vancouver real estate being the most expensive in NA?
- Hong Kong handover?
- Rise of China?

Then again you need to have some sort of general strategy I suppose.

The internet already existed, and anyone with any technological sense by 1980 would have had a hunch about possible future expansions.

Personal computers by 1980 were easily predictable, and I believe a few very weak, large prototypes were already built by then (my family got its first personal computer only 6 years after that)

I am sure cell phones again were on the radar for those working in the tech / communication sector, since pagers already existed.

Peak oil was also on the radar, and the stock market ride? Anyone with half a brain in their head knows that the stock market is going to follow an up and down cycle as it aways has.

So yeah, some things are predictable if you have a little base knowledge.

[Prometheus]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

Personal computers by 1980 were easily predictable, and I believe a few very weak, large prototypes were already built by then...

Predictable? They already existed and had been mass marketed for years. The Commodore PET was commercially available in 1977. The famous and iconic Apple II was introduced in 1977 as well. These were full-featured personal computers. Many others were being released during the late seventies.