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While looking for older pictures of BillinGlendaleCA's brick building, I found a great video (it's HD quality) in the USC Digital Library. The title is "R/W 4430 Union Station Ground Shots, 1935-1937". It's like an 80-year-old Googlemobile as the camera travels down Macy Street and pans around periodically giving 180 degree views. The film starts just across the street from the Kerckhoff-Cuzner Lumber Mill.


...and the brick building next door.



Behind the fence and all the junk, the building still looks pretty complete.

That's the old Clara Street Elementary School, pretty much ground zero of the 1924 plague outbreak.

Clara Street School, Wilson Packing and the Los Angeles Pressed Brick Company, 1938

Macy Street crosses from left to right just below the middle of the image (it disappears under the Union Station viaduct), Clara Street School appears just to the right of center sitting at an angle north of Macy. Wilson Packing is the large campus center right and Los Angeles Pressed Brick almost dead-center at the top.

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USC date this picture as "ca.1870-1880". I think it may be slightly later (see below). Here's an enlargement.


Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

I found some of the businesses shown in the CDs of the mid-1880s. On the left is C E Day & Co, pianos and organs, at 11 N Spring Street. O T Barker & Sons, furniture, carpets etc, is at 13 and 15 N Spring. D C Roberts, watchmakers and jewelers, is at 19 N Spring Street. Mathews Case & Co, agricultural implements, is at 21 N Spring Street. The big wall sign belongs to the Peoples Store, a boot and shoe dealer, at 35 to 45 N Spring Street. Further down the street is the Brunswick Billiard Hall at 75 N Spring Street. Along the right is H J Woollacott, wholesale & retail wines and liquors, at 26 and 28 N Spring Street. Behind that is Dobinson & Fairchild, real estate and insurance agents, at 42 N Spring Street.
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Today's Julius Shulman post takes us to Marina Del Rey. This is "Job 4420: Flores, Gelman, Greenberg, Apartments (Marina del Rey, Calif.), 1968". There's a sign to the right of the entrance which says "Number 7 Fleet Street".



Here's the side facing the beach. This was originally a portrait photo, but all I've cropped is some of the sky.



The set also includes this color interior shot.



All from Getty Research Institute

The apartments stayed looking pretty much the same until they had a small makeover in 2012. Having said that, they're still recognizable.


GSV

I'll finish with this 2013 image of the beach-facing side.


Detail of picture at www.californiacoastline.org
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C.E. Toberman developed Outpost Estates and Las Colinas, where he built his dream house, Villa Camino Palmero
When it was finished in 1925, it was featured in the first issue of Architectural Digest.
Thanks for the information on Charles E. Toberman odinthor.

We've visited Toberman's Outpost Estates a few times in the early years of NLA, but as far as I can tell we've overlooked the lesser-known Las Colinas Estates.

Here's 'Villa Camino Palmero' in the first issue of Architectural Digest that odinthor mentioned.


http://legaciesofla.com/wp-content/u...847-camino.jpg



The various contractors are listed below on the right.


http://legaciesofla.com/wp-content/u...847-camino.jpg







The Living Room at 'Villa Camino Palmero'


http://legaciesofla.com/wp-content/u...ingroom_WM.jpg




Surprisingly, the estate is 100% intact.


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On more than 2 acres of rolling hills, the main residence is at the top of a circular drive behind massive gates. Measuring 9,000 square feet, it has 19 rooms, including seven bedrooms and 10 baths. There is a screening room, a billiards room with a stone fireplace and a walnut-paneled den. The pool house is a two-story, 2,300-square-foot solarium with four showers and eight dressing rooms. The estate was the Toberman family home until 1941, when C.E. Toberman was forced to sell to pay off a nearly $3 million debt incurred during the Depression."


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I wonder if C.E. Toberman was related to Mayor Toberman?
Charles’ uncle, Major J.R. Toberman had been appointed by President Abraham Lincoln himself to come to Los Angeles as U.S. Revenue Assessor. That was in 1863, while the Civil War was still raging. Nine years later, James Toberman served his first term as Los Angeles Mayor. He eventually served six, one-year terms as head of the city first between 1872 and 1874 and again from 1878 to 1882. Mayor Toberman personally turned on Los Angeles’ first electric street lights in 1882. He saw many infrastructure projects such as mapping out the first street car grid, and water and sewer systems. During his tenure the Los Angeles Normal School, the precursor to UCLA was established, as well as the Chamber of Commerce, L.A. Athletic Club, and the city’s first synagogue.
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Before I leave C.E. Toberman, I thought I'd post this fantastic photograph of him in his first tract office in Hollywood, 1914.


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...f34feb36d6.jpg




'mystery' object



detail

Does anyone know what this is?

Note that it extends down in front of the map, and even appears to touch the map.
-was it used to hold the map in place and against the wall?

We had huge maps like this in my grade school but I don't remember any contraptions (of course my grade school years were a lot later than 1914!!)




Here's the exterior of the tract office.


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Old Posted Dec 7, 2016, 2:37 AM
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We've visited Toberman's Outpost Estates a few times in the early years of NLA, but as far as I can tell we've overlooked the lesser-known Las Colinas Estates.
I was going to post links to the earlier 'Outpost Estates' posts but so many of the photographs are missing I decided against it. (downright discouraging )

Here's a rare look at the OUTPOST sign looming over Graumans Chinese Theater.


posted over six years ago by gsjansen at http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...st#post4936315




In the same post, gsjansen included this intriguing photograph.


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...st#post4936315

Does anyone know....are the remnants of the OUTPOST sign still up in the hills?

& more importantly , are they visible using Google_Earth?
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update:

OK, Here's one I don't think we've seen before. There's no additional information or date with this photo but it's obviously the old OUTPOST sign.



Sharon Richardson/pinterest https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...a40c1fe0f8.jpg

Boy, I'd love to know the story behind this pic. It's really amazing!


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Before I call it a night....

I just found this Kodachrome slide on eBay (the sale had ended a few minutes prior)


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-Slide-1...p2047675.l2557


Original 35mm film slide.

Subject: Los Angeles street scene, showing the Bryson apartment building, Chevron gas station, a restaurant, and a Los Angeles Motor Coach Co. bus stop.

Date: 1940s

Mount/Film Type: Kodachrome
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I'm curious about the restaurant over there on the right edge of the slide-------->

-note the arrow at the bottom of the blue blade sign (probably pointing to the entrance of the restaurant)

Does anyone know what restaurant this would be? I can't seem to place it.
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I was going to post links to the earlier 'Outpost Estates' posts but so many of the photographs are missing I decided against it. (downright discouraging )

Here's a rare look at the OUTPOST sign looming over Graumans Chinese Theater.


posted over six years ago by gsjansen at http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...st#post4936315

In the same post, gsjansen included this intriguing photograph.


http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...st#post4936315

Does anyone know....are the remnants of the OUTPOST sign still up in the hills?

& more importantly , are they visible using Google_Earth?
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update:

OK, Here's one I don't think we've seen before. There's no additional information or date with this photo but it's obviously the old OUTPOST sign.



Sharon Richardson/pinterest https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...a40c1fe0f8.jpg

Boy, I'd love to know the story behind this pic. It's really amazing!
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That's a great photo, E_R!


I believe I saw a KCET "California's Gold" program once where the remnants of the Outpost sign were visited and the history of it explored. The Outpost sign used to be the largest neon sign in the world!

Outpost Dr. 1928



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I found the video of the above mentioned program online!

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I'm curious, was there really a Vic Tanny's location on Hollywood Boulevard, or was it just added for the film? (I don't recall seeing it before)
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According to IMDb, Rules Don't Apply is set in 1958, but I could only find Vic Tannys [sic] Gym on Hollywood Boulevard in the 1961 CD. The 1956 and 1960 CDs both list Bert Goodrich's Health Center at 6624 Hollyward Boulevard.


On Set Hollywoof

Martin, the caption for the above image in the LA Weekly article you originally linked to says, "Restored archival footage of Hollywood Boulevard — Oppewall says the production used a car that matched the vehicle seen in the archival footage."

--Yes, HossC, I was trying to find that restored archival footage, online perhaps, but haven't yet.

--The movie, Rules Don't Apply, takes place from 1958 - 1964.

--I did not find the above footage, but I did find this b&w video. At 0:46, the camera pans right by the Vic Tanny Health Studio sign seen on the left in the above photo, as well as the "Shoes" outlet sign to the left of it and "The Orient of Hollywood" on the right. And, yes, E_R, I like the widescreen version of the photograph, too!


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Outpost sign/ Wilshire Royale restaurant

There's a bit more info here on Las Colinas Heights / Outpost Estates ( w/ the fella on the sign IDed as "Elmer" in a caption, but it looks like two different fellas to me).

https://www.kcet.org/departures-colu...-of-mythmaking

The Outpost Homeowners' Association site has a good "history" page.
Lots of pix:

http://www.outpostestates.com/

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Also, that's the Wilshire Royale across Rampart Blvd from the side entrance of the Bryson. I'm sorry, I don't know what restaurant was there in the 40s, but someone here will know. HOLA, a service organization, seems to have that space now.

Both the Bryson's neon and the restaurant blade sign are gone:


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Nothing says romance like a date to the La Brea Tar Pits.

"Kodachrome slide, 1950s"


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'mystery' object



detail

Does anyone know what this is?

Note that it extends down in front of the map, and even appears to touch the map.
-was it used to hold the map in place and against the wall?

We had huge maps like this in my grade school but I don't remember any contraptions (of course my grade school years were a lot later than 1914!!)
Could it be the lower half of a lamp, possibly a gas lamp?
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I just found this Kodachrome slide on eBay (the sale had ended a few minutes prior)


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-Slide-1...p2047675.l2557

I'm curious about the restaurant over there on the right edge of the slide-------->

-note the arrow at the bottom of the blue blade sign (probably pointing to the entrance of the restaurant)

Does anyone know what restaurant this would be? I can't seem to place it.
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Also, that's the Wilshire Royale across Rampart Blvd from the side entrance of the Bryson. I'm sorry, I don't know what restaurant was there in the 40s, but someone here will know. HOLA, a service organization, seems to have that space now.
At the time that e_r's picture was taken, the Wilshire Royale was still the Arcady. If you look at the top of the blade sign you can see "ARCA...", so I'm going to take a guess that it was the Arcady Restaurant. Here's a 1930s picture which shows the blade sign above the large bush on the left.


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Before I call it a night....

I just found this Kodachrome slide on eBay (the sale had ended a few minutes prior)


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orig-Slide-1...p2047675.l2557
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I'm curious about the restaurant over there on the right edge of the slide-------->

-note the arrow at the bottom of the blue blade sign (probably pointing to the entrance of the restaurant)

Does anyone know what restaurant this would be? I can't seem to place it.
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The Chevron sign belongs to an interesting building we haven't seen in a while--seen here in post 3047 from March 2011:



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Easily the most photographed and publicized part of Boyle Heights from the 1890s onward was Hollenbeck Park, a twenty-one acre City of Los Angeles park created in 1892.

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Hollywood Bowl

View shows the stage and its seating area which extends up the hillside of the Hollywood Bowl. I have an office in one of the old 100 year old bungalows on the Bowl grounds at Camrose Park. I love all the history.
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SheriffPaul, the 'enclave' where your bungalow office is located has always intrigued me.
I'd like to hear more about your 100 year old office-bungalow. (and see some pictures!)




Try as I might, I can't get the google-mobile to turn and go through this entrance.


gsv


So this is where your office is located, right?

google_area
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We've seen this early photograph of the Santa Monica beach cabin on NLA, but not nearly as large as the one in SheriffPaul's post from yesterday.
Because of the size I noticed a few details I had missed before.

What's up with the various sticks stuck into the sandy ground?

I believe the one at far left is there to protect that tiny little plant next to it (cute!)

but I'm at a loss as to the purpose of the other sticks. (I got a little crazy with all the red arrows)

detail


I'd sure hate to be frolicking in the sand and fall on one of these sticks...OUCH!

Admittedly, these people don't look much like frollickers.
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odinthor, I almost forgot to ask.



What is this little plant?
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Arcady / Wilshire Royale

Huh. That beautiful arch is a loss. I'd forgotten that (if I ever knew):


lapl via HossC


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LAT on the Arcady restaurant: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...808-story.html

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Oh my, I didn't realize the arch was gone!



Last night on eBay, I happened upon this rare 1910 photograph of Echo Park. (I've kept it XLRG to see all the glorious details)


I tried to find it again today, but it's gone.

"Looking south toward Sunset Boulevard from Morton Avenue and Echo Park Ave."


just for fun, Detail #1 (in the distance you get a glimpse of some oil wells)


I wonder if any of these structures still exist?



Detail #2


The structure I've pointed out somewhat resembles a reservoir/dam. (but I don't think it's in the right place for it to be that)



Luckily, I took a screen-grab of the information:


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