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I don't believe we have discussed a roller skating rink at this location.

Ad from 1949
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It was located on a movie lot? (Stage 2 )


for search purposes: Hollywood Roller Bowl, Stage 2 - Sunset at Bronson. Phone HO 5220
I have the best memories of my youth at the Hollywood Roller Bowl. Live organist, disc jokey, colored lamps, pretty girls, the soda fountain. Great times. Later became the Orrin Tucker ballroom. It was not on a movie lot. It was west of the old 20th Century Fox lot at Sunset and Western.
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I have the best memories of my youth at the Hollywood Roller Bowl. Live organist, disc jokey, colored lamps, pretty girls, the soda fountain. Great times. Later became the Orrin Tucker ballroom. It was not on a movie lot. It was west of the old 20th Century Fox lot at Sunset and Western.
Is this the place?


http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/SB-107.jpg


https://i.pinimg.com/474x/b1/62/9e/b...ies-boston.jpg
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2017, 5:45 AM
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1906




Abner Ross had his real estate office on the second floor of this heavily remodeled building on the northwest corner of Broadway and 4th St.


gsv

I'm still looking for a vintage photograph.




Mr. Ross' residence is gone. (marked below in red )






Surprisingly there are five surviving homes from the same time period on the block.


google_earth



These two across the street


gsv




and three more down the block.


gsv

The house on the far right appears to be in fairly good shape but the other two need some love.



especially this one with the tortured turret. (gives me the sads. )


gsv

Have we already discussed this house on nla?

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sidenote:

The beautiful Pico-Union Branch Library is on this block. (next door to the missing Ross residence)

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A bit more:

"Orchestra Music Every Evening".
To think, one might be able to make a living as a musician if presenting live music was the aspiration of even mid-level hotels. I am amazed looking at old brochures of Hollywood restaurants and night spots that offered "dancing nightly". That meant working musicians.
Not bitter, but hard to reconcile with today's environment.

And speaking of working, I rehearsed in this building last weekend, new to me and I think to NLA- built by the Hollywood Stake, Latter Day Saints. Architects: Pope (Hyrum) & Burton (Harold W.). Corner of Manhattan Pl. and Country Club Dr.


(this was hanging on the wall in the building)

now:

me


me

Doesn't look much different now. The palm trees are a lot taller!
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Here's an amazing amateur photograph taken on a busy day in the 1890s.


found on ebay.

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I noticed the last five letters of the name "Rosslyn" on the building in the distance on the left. Could that be the Hotel Rosslyn (1914)? I'm puzzled.
I believe the building we see in the distance with SSLYN on the side was originally the Lexington
(above and to the left of the wagon driver's head; to the right of his shoulder is the turret of the
Menlo Hotel on the NE corner of Main and Winston).


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c. 1904 photo looking north on Main . . . Note the Hotel Lexington; the flag flying from atop the hotel to its north is emblazoned Rosslyn.

USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/3573/rec/41


The Lexington has become the Rosslyn.

USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...id/3589/rec/42
HossC has more here, which shows that the Lexington was still the Lexington (and not the Rosslyn) in 1905.

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Looks like maybe grandstands have been erected....the lamp post is decorated...perhaps a parade is nigh? Great picture!

This looks like it could be the building permit for that grandstand/reviewing stand:



LADBS


The BP for the Kerckhoff Bldg. (558-62 S. Main) that GW noted is dated July 25, 1907. So, e_r, my guess
is that your photo is either from 1906 or c. May-July 1907. How many parades did LA have in the spring
and early summer of 1907?

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The BP for the Kerckhoff Bldg. (558-62 S. Main) that GW noted is dated July 25, 1907. So, e_r, my guess
is that your photo is either from 1906 or c. May-July 1907. How many parades did LA have in the spring
and early summer of 1907?


So it seems that the Lindsay became the Rosslyn...then the Hart brothers entered the picture, combining the Rosslyn and the Lexington in mid-1906--this is what I found when writing about George Hart's house house at 107 Fremont Place:


"In July 1903, [the Harts] added the original Hotel Rosslyn on Main Street to their holdings. Three years later, they bought the adjacent Hotel Lexington to expand the Rosslyn. Their big move came when they bought the prominent corner just to the south, most recently the site of one of William H. Clune's theaters. Here the Harts built the New Hotel Rosslyn, designed by John Parkinson and opened on November 9, 1914, George's 44th birthday. A proposed northward expansion three years later to replace the old Lexington structure and the original Rosslyn was delayed and then changed in 1922 to instead jump across the street when the Harts leased the southwest corner of Fifth and Main. The New Rosslyn Annex would be connected to the main hotel by passageways under Fifth Street, including one lined with marble for hotel guests. The Harts again called on Parkinson, now partnered with his son Donald, to duplicate the details of the 1914 building. When the New Rosslyn Annex opened on December 29, 1923, it took the title of largest hotel on the Pacific Coast...."

From 107 Fremont Place



The Hart brothers making alterations to the Lex/Rosslyn during 1906 would seem to support the 1907 parade date...



A few related items:


Times, April 15, 1906



From the Herald, May 2, 1907



LAHerald May 2, 1907
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I have the best memories of my youth at the Hollywood Roller Bowl. Live organist, disc jokey, colored lamps, pretty girls, the soda fountain. Great times. Later became the Orrin Tucker ballroom. It was not on a movie lot. It was west of the old 20th Century Fox lot at Sunset and Western.


http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/SB-108.jpg

The photograph CBD posted says this was at Sunset and Bronson, west of the old Warner Bros. studios, now Sunset Bronson studios.

There are some posts about the roller rink and subsequent Stardust Ballroom, and three different locations/addresses came up for the roller rink, but HossC came up with the answer for the confusion and for the answer to E_R's post:

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I don't believe we have discussed a roller skating rink at this location.

Ad from 1949
ebay

It was located on a movie lot? (Stage 2 )

for search purposes: Hollywood Roller Bowl, Stage 2 - Sunset at Bronson. Phone HO 5220
_________________________________________________________________

From HossC's post: (note the "Skate Your Date" reference in each one.)

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The confusion over the address may be due to this earlier establishment of the same name. This was another of Sid Grauman's enterprises located in the Warner Bros. Studio on Sunset. The seller says this label is from the 1940's.


eBay

An issue of Billboard from July 1957 has this snippet about the Hollywood Rollerbowl.
[The one near Western.]


books.google.com
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The prior posts about the subject.

http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=23153

http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/show...ostcount=23154


FYI: NetFlix has been leasing a lot of the facilities at the Sunset Bronson lot and moving their offices and productions there, instead of leasing out other places for their film & TV production.

https://la.curbed.com/2016/10/19/133...ronson-studios

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Bridgo-Dementia

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...

Towards the beginning of the chase there's a shot of a store sign that is reversed. (the signs are correct in all the other scenes)




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We have seen this place before. Flipping the image gives:



which shows a Bridgo emporium, the vast majority of which were in Venice:


https://www.westland.net/venicehisto...s/gambling.htm

This was the Fortune Bridgo at 1501 Ocean Front Walk:


calisphere.org

It does not appear this building survived:


gsv

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more on Bridgo.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=41819


and more Venice including Tom Laughlin aka "Billy Jack" and the Gas House. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=41576


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re: Sid Grauman's Hollywood Roller Bowl

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I have the best memories of my youth at the Hollywood Roller Bowl. Live organist, disc jokey, colored lamps, pretty girls, the soda fountain. Great times. Later became the Orrin Tucker ballroom. It was not on a movie lot.
Thanks for sharing your wonderful memories BDiH....sounds like you had a lot of fun times there.

My Father was quite the roller skater in his youth before he met my Mom. On Sunday drives he'd point out where all the rinks used to be.
My Mom didn't appreciate his roller stories very much. She assumed he used his roller skating skills to pick up girls. (she assumed correctly )


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It was not on a movie lot. It was west of the old 20th Century Fox lot at Sunset and Western.
I realize now that we discussed this before. (thanks for the reminder Martin Pal)

The Hollywood Roller Bowl was located in an old Warner Bros. sound stage (no doubt Stage 2...like it said in the ad)


HERE

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computer hic-cups again.

The Gloria mentioned in the excerpt was Gloria Nord.


Here she is on the cover of Skating Vanities of 1948.



She was 'discovered', by rink owner Sid Grauman, at age 15 while skating at the Hollywood Roller Bowl

At her height of fame she was known as the "Sonja Henie of the Roller Rinks."


Read more about her HERE

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"Note that one of the arrows is missing a description...anyone know what it's pointing to?




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Bud-weis-err. Burp!

It's the Anheuser-Busch brewery on Roscoe.
Thanks for your help BGC. I appreciate it.
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1952: temporary sign for the Anheuser-Busch's Budweiser groundbreaking, Van Nuys, California.








Groundbreaking Day set-up.



"The opening of the Budweiser plant on Roscoe Blvd. was a big event. Costing $20,000,000 and employing 1500 workers,
the plant was a large contributor to the post-war prosperity of Van Nuys.

'Busch Gardens and Bird Sanctuary' became part of the complex and a major tourist attraction for many years until it closed in 1976."


description & photos found HERE

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"Note that one of the arrows is missing a description...anyone know what it's pointing to?





Thanks for your help BGC. I appreciate it.
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1952: temporary sign for the Anheuser-Busch's Budweiser groundbreaking, Van Nuys, California.








Groundbreaking Day set-up.



"The opening of the Budweiser plant on Roscoe Blvd. was a big event. Costing $20,000,000 and employing 1500 workers,
the plant was a large contributor to the post-war prosperity of Van Nuys.

'Busch Gardens and Bird Sanctuary' became part of the complex and a major tourist attraction for many years until it closed in 1976."


description & photos found HERE

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Here's a few pics of Busch Gardens just before they closed(my apologies about the picture quality, they were scanned from prints):

Image294 by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr

Image303 by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr(that one's out of focus too)

Image298 by BillinGlendaleCA, on Flickr
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Dementia / Elks Lodge #99 / statue in lobby

Remember this question I had a few days ago?
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I wonder if the statue in the middle of the lobby is real or a studio prop?



To me it looks a bit out of place and the four pillar base is at odds with the statue



I ask because all that's there now is a 'frosted' plant on a cheap looking veneer table.


________________________________________________________________





Well I just found a photograph showing the statue in the lobby, so it wasn't a prop after all. (although it's closer to the stairs than it was in the film)


https://www.laconservancy.org/

So where is it now? Is it somewhere else in the building or in some Elks' backyard?
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sidenote:

If you skimmed through the movie (like I did the first two times), you might have missed the detective lighting a match off the foot of the statue.




and then gazing up at it.


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Why did I skim through a movie with so many strikingly noirish images? It's 51 minutes with NO DIALOGUE

Dementia (1955) filmed in 1953.

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I recently came across this stereo view on ebay.




written on the reverse: "Church of Christ, Long Beach Cal. May or June, 1906"




Enlarged for your viewing pleasure.


ebay

I thought the man on the left was standing guard with a rifle...but now I think it's a two-by-four.
I can't quite figure out what kind of construction is going on.

Did ya'll notice the young lad sitting on the window sill?



reverse


If anyone knows the street address of this church, let me know. I'm anxious to see if it's still standing.
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I came across this stereo view a week or so ago.
Enlarged for your viewing pleasure.


ebay

I thought this man was standing guard with a rifle, but it's a two by four. (not sure what kind of construction is going on) did u see the boy sitting on the window sills?



reverse


Does anyone know where this church is/was located in long Beach?

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https://buildingthesocialgospel.file...beachxtian.jpg

Note the addition.


https://www.picclickimg.com/d/w1600/...nia-102905.jpg
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That was fast CityBoyDoug! I was still editing my post.

You're talking about the addition on the right, correct?

Did you notice the new door and fire escape coming off the sanctuary

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building permit 1907

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You went above and beyond FW.

I'm pretty much amazed that you found the building permit for the temporary grandstand FW.
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I see the amount estimated for the grandstand is around $700....in 1907 dollars!!!

That seems pretty high to me. What would that be in 2017 dollars?
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on a sidenote:

I guess they could resell the wood.

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Did anyone read today's VARIETY < click there

I'm curious what you NLA'ers think of the idea.
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