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Old Posted Jan 20, 2012, 6:45 PM
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The Wilshire Country Club, ca. 1922. From what I can see via Google, the building has been replaced or remodeled...
anyone know?


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Well, Jeff, while we're reviewing books...I looked at Full Service at the Strand, where it's half-price, no shipping... and I still didn't buy it...the book, I mean. Maybe every word is true, but it looks like a sad rehash of the same old stories, such as Cary & Randolph, Rock Hudson, ad nauseum. Exposés of Hollywood hypocrisy seems a little unsurprising at this point. Somehow you doubt that this guy was as personally popular as he thinks he was with the stars who paid him--and what a pal to try to cash in (again) on it all now. (And Gore Vidal's rec is not exactly worth much these days. There's another one screaming, remember me!? I'm not dead yet! I'm not a bourgeois square! I slept with stars! I had sex once!)

And while I actually slogged through the whole thing...Michael Gross's new Unreal Estate is similarly mind-numbing. Panting descriptions of the excesses of owners of some houses in BH, Bel-Air etc wear mighty thin.

Btw, I wouldn't want to read so much repetitive detail about the sex lives or domestic arrangements of poor people either! And I am very very interested in L.A. domestic architecture of the early-20th-century....
RE: You're wondering about the Wilshire Country Club. The club's buildings underwent a massive restoration/remodeling just a couple of years ago. As far as I've been able to find out, they still ARE the original buildings but had been victimized by a really unfortunate remodel 30+ years back, and it's that ugly remodel that was torn up & replaced. I haven't been inside since the work was done but am told it really looks good.

Ah - the fabulous Mystery Pier! The owners are great guys & do not discourage browsing. With the demise of the Mystery Bookshop, Mystery Pier
is the last man standing of great themed bookshops in L.A. Even if you only have a short time in town, Mystery Pier is SO worth your time.

As always, Ethereal & GW and all the other regular contributors, I'm truly awed by your breadth of knowledge & willingness to share. No other place on the web makes me feel as good about being an Angeleno as these pages.
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2012, 8:01 PM
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Say, George Dolenz, Tv's "Count of Monte Cristo" had his own eatery for a while. Anyone have any pics of it? I believe that it was named after his tv show.
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"Sunset House"

Whilst reading about the 30s and 40s Los Angeles I came across a reference to "Sunset House" - I have tried without - success - to find out more about it - is it still standing and what was its exact location ?

Do any pictures exist of what it was like back then ?
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Old Posted Jan 20, 2012, 9:48 PM
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The houses that cafeterias built, part III...

Well, actually, it turns out that the Schabers--cousins of the Boos brothers who opened a few of their own Los Angeles cafeterias--were either not as successful as their relatives, or at least not as pretentious. Their various Mid-City and Cheviot Hills homes were quite a bit more modest, and there's really nothing much left of them to show here. Pictures of their cafeterias, other than the one at 620 S. Broadway, are rare. In fact, all I could find of the others were small, fuzzy images.

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Another vintage shot of 620 S. Broadway--a great pic showing See's, Desmond's, and Silverwood's signs. Question: What exactly is the piece of street furniture to the left of lamppost? The building still stands, as we've seen in a prior post, but the sidewalk has been replaced.

If I've got this right, at some point Al and Erhard Schaber swapped buildings with the owner of 720 S. Hill--no idea why. The Broadway building was a Forum Cafeteria in the mid '50s, one of a national chain that seems to have acquired the Schaber operations somewhere along the line. This is the only pic of the Hill Street location I could find:

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The building still stands:
Google Street View


The Schabers and/or the Forum chain also operated a store at Wilshire and LaBrea, which didn't last long. One on Victory Drive in North Hollywood lasted longer. The pic below is of one or the other:

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I had forgotten all about See's Candies until this photo. The equivalent in Illinois was Fanny Mae's. Thanks for the flashback G_W.
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See's is one of those businesses that have always said Los Angeles to me. Whenever I leave LAX I take La Cienega north and make sure to look for the See's factory on the left, somewhere around Jefferson.

A while back I read that the original factory at 135 N. Western Ave might be torn down for a mini-mall, but it looks like it's still there...

Google Street View

Then...
See's Candies/Los Angeles Times


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Wow, did that See's building get dilapidated or what? Sad, actually. I mean, I'm glad the building still stands but it looks like something out of a war zone now.
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Here is another photograph of Schaber's Cafeteria showing the See's Candies Shop, circa 1940.




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below: Boos Bros. Cafeteria can be seen bottom right in this view looking north on Olive from 7th Street in 1930.



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Boos Cafeteria at 618 S. Olive became Clifton's in the mid '30s; it was converted to the famous "Pacific Seas" cafeteria in 1939, lasting until 1960.

Here it is post-Boos, pre Pacific Seas:
Clifton's


Has anyone been downtown lately to see how the facade-removal is going on Clifton's Brookdale?
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Some interesting photos I recently found on ebay.




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below: This is the entire photo.


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below: Close-ups of several 'touring' cars from Hasting's Place.



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I found this Arthur Fellig (aka 'weegee') photograph on ebay earlier this week. The seller dated the photo 1947.




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below: details


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below: Two excellent close-ups of the crowd.


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I'm not sure of the exact location of this photograph....the mortuary seems to be the best clue.

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Las Palmas Market

This small market at 1259 N. Las Palmas at Fountain in Hollywood has long interested me. This is a residential area, about a block west of De Longpre Park. The place is still there and still looks like an old country store. Wonder how long it's been around?



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I couldn't resist a before and after 3940dxer.



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I wonder if the current owners know the history of the place? It would be interesting to see if there are old photos hanging inside.

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According to the L.A. County Assessor's website, it was built in 1912, 1040 square feet.


Their website is a good reference for history of buildings, but like any government website it is balky and frustrating to use.

http://assessormap.co.la.ca.us/mapping/viewer.asp


...and for $1,500.00, you can buy a nice painting of the place


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The only vaguely noirish thing--and I admit that it's a stretch--about The Burger That Ate L.A. once at the se corner of Melrose and Stanley was its replication of City Hall. I'm not sure what happened to it--the City Hall part--when it became a chicken place, but Starbucks seems for some reason to have felt the need to restore the shape (if it wasn't eventually to become a parking lot, a gas station, a minimart, a strip mall, it would have to have become a Starbucks, right?).

Per a commenter on the photographer's website: "The restaurant is in the shape of a huge 2-story burger. Bar stools are shaped like pickle wedges and suspended above your head is an enormous tomato slice suspended from the top bun! The counter where you eat is between the two buns which act as the floor and the ceiling."

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ebay

I'm not sure of the exact location of this photograph....the mortuary seems to be the best clue.
Presumably New Year's Eve....


Utter-McKinley was at 6240 Hollywood Blvd--southeast corner of Argyle--the empty corner lot near the center of shot. (I know people have the need to name their businesses after themselves, but if my name was Utter... but I digress.) The scene now:

Google Street View

The Pantages is behind the camera. Argyle Street seems to be the border of the old and new
Hollywood Blvd. The difference is dramatic. The view west is high-rise...

Google Street View


...the view east, still low-rise:

Google Street View


Btw--
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It's still there at 6640 Sunset, more or less. Same palm out front, and you can still see the outlines of the little gable windows...

Google Street View

One hallmark of Golden Age Hollywood movies is the name Westmore in the credits. I noticed that there were several Westmores--Perc, Bud, and Wally were the names you see most often--but apparently there were alot of them. Bud was at Universal, Wally at Paramount, and Perc at Warners... one site refers to the scandals of the clan, but doesn't elaborate other than to mention the third wife of this one or the fourth husband of that one. Anyway, I was curious about the reflection in the windows...

Google Street View

...and found school and church buildings I've never really noticed before. The Blessed Sacrament:

Google Street View

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Blessed Sacrament was two blocks north at Hollywood and Cherokee until 1924:

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The Hot Dog Show, 450 S. La Cienega

1949 menu from the Hot Dog Show at 450 S. La Cienega, between Colgate and Clifton. This would have been a few blocks south of Tail O' The Pup and Lucas Kiddie Land. It seems that the address is now extinct.





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Every time I see high-rise pants in old movies, I wonder--especially considering that these were the days before Jockeys became popular--umm... how it was all arranged without revealing certain contours, IF you know what I mean. Perhaps the costume designers had their tricks.... Anyway... this is really out of the scope of the thread....
Jockey shorts have probably been around longer than you think, having been wildly successful from their introduction in 1935. On the other hand, to my knowledge they have never, ever been depicted in film or literature as something cool guys wear. Go figure...
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