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Engineeral · #**7121** Posted: **Apr 3, 2012, 1:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Here are a couple of old posts--lots of Hollywood history at the Knick:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=3107

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=6000

Thanks for the reminder links. I recall them now. I did a search for "Knickerbocker" and "Knicker" before I posted but the search returned nothing. For me the search function usually is useless. What am I doing wrong? Are there some tips or tricks?

GaylordWilshire · #**7122** Posted: **Apr 3, 2012, 1:18 PM**

Engineeral-- It's not you-- the search function here is quirky at best, and very balky. I only remembered the Frawley connection to the Knickerbocker and searched his name...

GaylordWilshire · #**7123** Posted: **Apr 3, 2012, 1:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mayor Shaw

It looks like something is written on the face of the rock. I wonder if it's still around stuck on a shelf somewhere.

Photo: LAPL

Well, it looks like the rock was addressed to you at City Hall, so you should check your basement shelves. While you're at it, see if the I-ON-A-CO belt I gave you is there. It looks like this:

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GaylordWilshire · #**7124** Posted: **Apr 3, 2012, 4:32 PM**

OFENA1

ethereal_reality · #**7125** Posted: **Apr 3, 2012, 7:27 PM**

That's a great comparison chart....my money's still on Marilyn.

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Looks like Marilyn bought a couple dollars worth of beans from Barney.

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ethereal_reality · #**7126** Posted: **Apr 3, 2012, 8:16 PM**

Jean Wallace, age 25, in municipal court for a drunk driving charge....but most interesting is what is written on the back.

Here's a quote "Police charge that she was wearing only black lace panties and a red coat."

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Here's the whole pic.

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Boy, I sure would like to know the details from that night...like where was she going in just her black lace panties?
Is it too much of a stretch to wonder if she was one of Brenda Allen's girls?
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ethereal_reality · #**7127** Posted: **Apr 3, 2012, 8:35 PM**

Here is a dazzling photograph of Hollywood with searchlights. Notice the Hotel Knickerbocker on the right.

found on ebay

The Capitol Records Building looks fantastic in this shot. I'm not familiar with the small hotel across the street.
Also I'm surprised at the steep grade of Vine Street at that point...it's something I hadn't noticed before.

GaylordWilshire · #**7128** Posted: **Apr 3, 2012, 8:46 PM**

Re Jean Wallace

I'm loving what I've been reading about Franchot Tone and all his crazy dames.
Here's Jean's entry on one of my favorite sites, one that gives amusing chronological biographies of, well, Glamour Girls of the Silver Screen:

http://www.glamourgirlsofthesilversc...ace/index.html

Fore example...

June 48 comes out of Helena Rubinstein's with her hair opalescent pink

23 August 48 Tone claims that Jean was an unfit mother and that she associated with Johnny Stompanato, lieutenant of gangster Mickey Cohen.

21 November 49 stabs herself with a butcher knife after a Christmas shopping tour with her two sons. [I know kids can be a pain in the ass, but wow.]

And not overlooked is her comfortable motoring: check out "24 December 49"

Also on the site are Patricia Knight, who was Cornel Wilde was married to before he married Jean Wallace:

http://www.glamourgirlsofthesilversc...ght/index.html

Preview:

November 52 her brief romance with actor Scott Brady ends when he splashes a glass of champagne into her face at Denise Darcel’s big Hollywood party. In the meantime, Steve Cochran amuses the guests by taking off his trousers and dancing around the room.

And of course, there's La Payton:

http://www.glamourgirlsofthesilversc...ton/index.html

Fab Fifties Fan · #**7129** Posted: **Apr 3, 2012, 9:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

That's a great comparison chart....my money's still on Marilyn.

unknown

Looks like Marilyn bought a couple dollars worth of beans from Barney.

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Here is where Marilyn was living when she bought her beloved chili & beans from Barney's.

Romanesque Villa 1301-1312 N. Harper West Hollywood (at Fountain)

Built in 1928

This was Marilyn's front door "1309"

There are many beautiful old apartment houses in that area including this one directly across Fountain:

~Jon Paul

ethereal_reality · #**7130** Posted: **Apr 3, 2012, 9:57 PM**

Oh my, that's quite a place.

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http://www.glamourgirlsofthesilversc...ton/index.html

This caught my eye in Barbara Payton's timeline. I thought "Jet Inn....where have I heard of that place?"
Then I remembered my old post on the extremely kitschy Jet Inn.

I'm surprised she was so far south (on Slauson of all places)....and yet she's found on a bench on Sunset Strip the next day.
Did she even have a car at this point in her downward spiral?

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

The Jet Inn Motor Hotel at 4542 W. Slauson Ave.

postcard/ebay

Now renamed the Jet Inn Motel.

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Below: What in the world would you call this strange ornamentation.......chinoiserie modern?

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Below: It has seen better days that's for sure.

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ethereal_reality · #**7131** Posted: **Apr 3, 2012, 10:18 PM**

I just read the Dec. '49 entry in Jean Wallace's timeline.

Her 'black lace panties' drive was on Christmas Eve! That just makes it all the more surreal. Boy, you can't make this stuff up.

ethereal_reality · #**7132** Posted: **Apr 3, 2012, 10:39 PM**

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fhammon · #**7133** Posted: **Apr 3, 2012, 11:29 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I just read the Dec. '49 entry in Jean Wallace's timeline.

Her 'black lace panties' drive was on Christmas Eve! That just makes it all the more surreal. Boy, you can't make this stuff up.

No. Not made up. Just a mistake in detail.

Quote:

She has another bone to pick with Barker, who testifies "her coat flew open and all she was wearing was a pair of black lace panties." That statement, she says, is incorrect. "They were blue."

ethereal_reality · #**7134** Posted: **Apr 4, 2012, 1:21 AM**

LOL

fhammon · #**7135** Posted: **Apr 4, 2012, 6:04 AM**

Here's a little tidbit of historical info that not many will find particularly interesting. I'm gonna post it anyhow because I live at the Village Green in Baldwin Hills so of course I find it extremely interesting.
Now ya'll get to know about it too.

Back when the last remnants of Rancho la Cienega o' Passo de la Tierra (Baldwin Ranch) was being sold off by Lucky Baldwin's daughter Ms. Stoker, there was a large number "57" made out of concrete stuck into the hillside above La Cienega Blvd. It was an advertisement for "Heinz 57 Varieties" and could be seen for miles around.

Look mid-right in this photo just where La Cienega jogs over into the pass where the oil derricks are:

Here's a ground-level view from Steve Keylon's Baldwin Hills / Village Green site: http://baldwinhillsvillageandthevill...es-of-war.html Look just to the left of the sign for the #57.
Steve's caption reads:
"A photograph taken in 1924, looking south towards the Baldwin Hills. The Heinz 57 concrete numbers are
visible on the side of the Baldwin Hills.
LAPL"

Here's a still I captured from a Little Rascals episode. Spanky is running across an empty lot. You can make out the #57 on the hillside upper left.

Now! Isn't this interesting?
Sure it is.....

GaylordWilshire · #**7136** Posted: **Apr 4, 2012, 9:53 AM**

LAPL

Wish she had the label showing more, but it's definitely Heinz.

Great to see that "Little Rascals" shot--I think I may have had my first stirrings of L.A. love when I watched those movies on TV as a kid...

Steven Keylon's Baldwin Hills Village and the Village Green is definitely one of the best blog there is on L.A. history. Everyone should check it out.

GaylordWilshire · #**7137** Posted: **Apr 4, 2012, 4:34 PM**

I never get tired of looking at old L.A. apartment buildings--I know the city is famous for single-family houses, but the hundreds of these old
places are reminders of its explosive growth between the world wars.

UCLA/Google SV

Engineeral · #**7138** Posted: **Apr 4, 2012, 4:45 PM**

Here are a couple of plans drawn in 1969 that were basically copies of project construction drawings from 1920 by Frank Lloyd Wright.

By engineeral at 2012-04-04
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/ca1386/

By engineeral at 2012-04-04
http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/ca1386/
The three other drawings in the 1969 set are construction details.

I scaled and overlaid the site plan with a 2011 aerial photo from Google Earth to see what remains from the original concept and what has changed:

By engineeral at 2012-04-04

So Hollyhock House and a fair bit of open space near it remains but many of the other proposed buildings and the observation platform were not built or have been lost. Considerable development has occurred on three of the four sides of the original site.

GaylordWilshire · #**7139** Posted: **Apr 4, 2012, 5:25 PM**

Skeins of Thought

As if Eve Arden was ever anyone's doormat....

transitfan · #**7140** Posted: **Apr 4, 2012, 6:39 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

I never get tired of looking at old L.A. apartment buildings--I know the city is famous for single-family houses, but the hundreds of these old
places are reminders of its explosive growth between the world wars.

UCLA/Google SV

Wow! I lived a block away from the Hobart Arms (400 S. Hobart) for 2 years (1977-79). Don't remember passing by that building, and I was always walking down to 6th St or Wilshire to catch the bus. Maybe I cut over to Serrano at 5th.