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Old Posted May 26, 2012, 6:00 AM
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Page 400!

My deepest thanks to all the usual suspects...and the unusual ones too...for 400 pages of Noirish Los Angeles. May the next 400 be every bit as rich, varied, and fascinating.

Extra special thanks to ethereal reality for launching this forum almost three years ago, and for being a terrific host and contributor.


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Old Posted May 26, 2012, 11:18 AM
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Teaser and main ad from the 1926 L.A. City Directory


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To live in? I wouldn't think you'd like to buy this building. The whole neighborhood looks like Beirut in 1986.
the area isnt that bad.Its surrounded by pockets of historic overlay zones.Now 15yrs ago i wouldnt think about it,but this is oneof the areasthat people are now rediscovering.The only big problem i would have is thetraffic on arlington,and no garage,but im still going to call the LAHC and or LAPL to figure out how one would go about buying the joint...
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I too wish to congratulate and acknowledge all of the posters and their considerable efforts. It's come a long way. Well done!

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Wilshire and San Vicente Boulevards, 1926


Facing West on Wilshire intersecting San Vicente. 1926

All from http://digitallibrary.usc.edu

FROMhttp://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2579

Wilshire and San Vicente Boulevard, Aerial '22







Circa '63
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/albaum/...n/photostream/

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Old Posted May 26, 2012, 5:09 PM
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West Third Street (from Westmoreland), 1938
Traffic backup, due to Rainbow Gardens happy hour?



From ER's post: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=644




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facing west Wilshire - Westmoreland intersection '39


Same vicinity, facing S x SW ~20 years later, courtesy of ER, http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...70279&page=398 Notice mansard-like roof on far right.


Current, Wilshire and Westmoreland facing East.
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Old Posted May 26, 2012, 5:14 PM
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Los Angeles Times, October 13, 1955

Upper-crust Bickersons: discord via intercom ends in tragedy. A little Fremont Place noir....




Actually, it was excellent from the beginning. And didn't we just see at least two or three of those pictures?
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Old Posted May 26, 2012, 11:48 PM
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It's been a chore just reading through 400 pages. Thank you to all the posters, especially ethereal reality, Sopas ej, and Gaylord Wilshire
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Old Posted May 27, 2012, 12:09 AM
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a 1940 view looking across the future park la brea site from wilshire boulevard.

the pan pacific auditorium is just left of center. to the left of the pan pacific is gilmore field, (baseball) then gilmore stadium, (football). The farmers market is just below and to the left of gilmore stadium.....(scott....hold your nose).


Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...0-14-ISLA?v=hr

a similar 1954 view. hancock park is now booming, park la brea has been built, Gilmore stadium has been replaced with CBS Television City. Gilmore field is still there, (now the home of the Hollywood Stars minor league baseball team). Pan Pacific Auditorium is on the far right above center.


Source: USC Digital Archive http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...-3-4-ISLA?v=hr
First photo is revealing. If the '40 date is accurate, it suggests that the airplane motif at Bob's Air Mail Service on Cochran and Wilshire ca. '36, http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7493 was short lived. Look carefully and there appears to be an empty lot, although this could be a simple gas station or parking lot. Looking across the street, one can make out the Flying Saucer's roof line. Don't believe it existed until after '35 when the A&P opened.

LAPL and http://jpg1.lapl.org/00090/00090378.jpg

Looking for photo of Genesee Avenue, which may have paralleled Fairfax Ave and bisected the Gilmore property between the Stadium and the baseball field. Sometime prior to 9-2011, Genesee ran directly past CBS and into the pre-Grove Farmer's Mkt(?).

Suspect this undated photograph is older than the first photo (above). Assume Genesee is the road closet to Fairfax that runs through the property. There is yet another road parallel to, and east of the assumed Genesee - and east of the baseball diamond. Is it the former Stanley Ave, now known as "Grove Drive?" (I would guess the next street east that runs past the Pan Pacific is Gardener.)
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Page 400!

My Congratulations to all those who have contributed page by page, reply by reply and picture by picture to made this thread big, fascinating and so educational; not only for angelenos or americans, but for people from around the world who are in love with the history of Los Angeles and its culture.

Special mention to Ethereal_reality for collecting the very first pics and put them all together to create this thread...Thank you for sharing those pictures with us!

And many many thanks to all 'forumers' for teaching me with a big respect everything I know of the City of Angels. There weren't books enough at any library except for your contributrions. A big thank you!

Finally I'm waiting forward to see the next 400 pages!
Muchas gracias a todos!

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This house was built in 1911 by James C. Drake and his wife Fanny Wilcox Drake to replace their previous dwelling on the same lot at 2715
S. Hoover. Mr. Drake died in 1920; Fanny had the Kress Company move it to 70 Fremont Place in early 1931. She wasn't able to enjoy her new
neighborhood for long; she died of a stroke that September. The Frank H. Powells were in residence from about 1938 into the mid '50s; during
the '60s, the Zebulon Owingses lived there. Following her husband's death, Mrs. Owings auctioned off everything in the house and left for
the East. The old Drake house was demolished some time between 1969 and 1972; by 1980 a much less interesting house rose on the
site, and is still there.

FULL STORY HERE: http://losangeleshistory.blogspot.co...struction.html



Los Angeles Times, May 11, 1931



Los Angeles Times, May 11, 1931



And here's at little twist to the story. It seems that Mr. Kress, the famed house mover, had a few odd habits:


Los Angeles Times, December 9, 1928

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Oh my goodness.
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And here's at little twist to the story. It seems that Mr. Kress, the famed house mover, had a few odd habits:


Los Angeles Times, December 9, 1928
Judge McComb later went on to serve on California's Supreme Court.

Here he is in 1939, third from the left. Next to him, in the middle, is 17 year old Barnet Cooperman, who later became a Judge on the Superior Court.
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Old Posted May 27, 2012, 3:53 PM
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Page 400- trying to keep up!

Greetings all,

I was introduced to this thread some months ago. I started with page one, and am working through it all.

What a treasure this is! Thanks to all posters, from the most prolific to the periodic. You have collectively taught me more about my adopted home than I have learned in 33 years living here. As a youngster in the '50's I would visit with my parents, driving over the old Grapevine, or down the Coast from N. Calif. I always thought LA was mysterious. Thanks for bringing the Mystery and the History together.

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Old Posted May 27, 2012, 5:18 PM
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I too am excited that we have reached the 400 page milestone. (Though, being an engineering type, I must mention that "posts per page" is a user setting, and we may not all be seeing that number right now.) But how many discussion threads, on any topic, have had this kind of longevity? It's really quite amazing.

e_r, since this is an anniversary of sorts, maybe you'd tell us a little more about how this thread began. In your first post you wrote "I lived in L.A. for 8 years and still hold it in high esteem. I recently spent several months going through some 50,000+ photos from the USC Digital Archives and the Los Angeles Public Library." I'm curious about how you discovered the USC and LAPL archives and how you got the idea to start a thread about it here.

sopas_ej started contributing right away, GaylordWilshire joined in later; you and you have been the most prolific posters here. Did any of you know or correspond beforehand, or did this all happen spontaneously, through the magic of the interwebs?

In any case this must be the best, most complete study of L.A. architecture and history to be found anywhere, and it's certainly my favorite internet site ever. I live in terror of skyscraperpage.com pulling the plug or having some catastrophic server problem and have been maintaining an archive of this whole thread, though I'm not sure how one could resurrect the thread elsewhere, if the need ever arose.

After I got hooked I kept telling people it had changed my life. They mostly responded with rolling eyes and sarcasm, but it really has been true. I see this region through very different eyes now, and have had blast exploring and photographing the city. I've joined the L.A. Conservancy and Hollywood Heritage, and led groups of friends on all sorts of odd and interesting L.A. tours. My wife and I have explored and hiked a hundred places in the L.A. mountains and hills. I gave a talk / slideshow about L.A. for a big group, that was really successful. This new "hobby" costs almost nothing, and all the walking and hiking has gotten me into better shape.

e_r, thanks a million times over for starting the thread, and thanks to all of the contributors who have helped make this so great.


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Old Posted May 27, 2012, 8:08 PM
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The middle of the picture has a series of evenly placed red objects that appear to follow a hillside path. It is unlikely that these are red fez wearing monkeys awaiting the return of monkey island. But what are they, advertising, road markers or . . . . ?

More of Cahuenga Pass, 1952

South entrance near Hollywood Bowl
http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...l-12-27-52.jpg

http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...-July-1952.jpg

"Near Barham" 1952
http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...-July-1952.jpg

Barham 1952
http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...barham1952.jpg

A different perspective of "the pass." Circa 1940
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics45/00072195.jpg


I have seen this Pacific Electric 1912 Trolley map before, but can't determine via this site's search function if it has been posted in this thread.

http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...-Trips-Map.jpg

Having reached Milestone 400, perhaps it is appropriate to consider a special party service?http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...otter-1932.jpg

Source indicates Streetcar is crossing Fountain Ave., 1952 unknown cross street.
http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...d-Jan-1952.jpg

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Here's another 'un --

Chill in the air? Hollywood Blvd. 1952-3?
http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...aumans1950.jpg


XMAS came and went?
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December 1953
http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...rger-photo.jpg

http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...rger-Photo.jpg

Highland facing North, approx date late '40's early '50s?
[IMG]http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...odblvd-hot.jpg

December 1952
http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...d-12-27-52.jpg

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Old Posted May 27, 2012, 9:21 PM
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North Hollywood Railway Station -- built in 1896, photographed in 1927:


[source: Los Angeles Public Library]

Surprisingly, the station still exists:


[source: Los Angeles Daily News]

Even more surprising: restoration work on the station is about to begin!
1952
http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...anNuysLn.N.jpg
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Old Posted May 27, 2012, 9:27 PM
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Those large color Cahuenga Pass photos, originally posted by BifRayRock, are quite interesting to me, especially this "red fez" shot.



I think this must be the area just south of the Mulholland bridge, beneath Lakeridge Drive, and that we are seeing construction vehicles using these dirt paths as access roads. Perhaps they were involved in grading work or construction of homes up on Lakeridge. The vertical perspective in this Google Earth shot doesn't quite match the original, but I believe it's the same area.


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