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Old Posted Nov 13, 2013, 2:43 AM
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LAPL has quite a few pictures showing the construction of the Cinerama Dome from different angles in black & white and color (including the one above). I came across them looking for pictures of the Vine Street Coffee Dan's a couple of weeks ago. Note the NBC building on the left.


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Their notes put the date at 1963:

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The 1963 18-story International Style Sunset Vine Tower, designed by architect Douglas Honnold of the firm Honnold & Rex, was the first skyscraper built in Los Angeles after the city repealed its 14-story building height limit.

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Lee Tower at 5455 Wilshire was was erected by '61 and is 22 floors. I thought it held the distinction of first skyscraper built after repeal of 150' height limit? See: http://www.ciclavia.org/files/ciclav...3_web-9809.pdf

http://photos.wikimapia.org/p/00/01/97/03/67_big.jpg

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show....php?p=5156605
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Wilshire Boulevard house. -looks like the street number is 4472....GW?

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Yes--it's 4472, once between Fremont Place and Fremont Place West, which I have in the hopper for an upcoming Wilshire Boulevard house history. Dr. Nelson's shenanigans (including his work as an abortionist) are only part of the story--in 1931 the house was raided while in operation as a speakeasy, and then a woman was stabbed to death in the house's servants' quarters.... Not your usual genteel Wilshire Boulevard house.


A color shot of the front door:

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LAPL has quite a few pictures showing the construction of the Cinerama Dome from different angles in black & white and color [...]. I came across them looking for pictures of the Vine Street Coffee Dan's a couple of weeks ago. Note the NBC building on the left.


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Their notes put the date at 1963.
HossC, I love this color aerial (where's all the traffic?!) especially for the view of the NBC Building. I never really liked the Sunset Vine Tower, it seems so out of place. It's like that obelisk in the film "2001" - which, I believe, premiered in Los Angeles at the Cinerama Dome a few years after this photo was taken.

Can we identify any other buildings here? -- Across Vine from NBC is Wallich's Music City. Going east or toward the top of the photo from NBC is the Hollywood Palladium. And across the street (behind the Sunset Vine Tower in the photo) would be where the Earl Carroll Theater Nightclub was.
In this photo is there a building under construction, barely visible, directly across the street from the C. Dome?
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Old Posted Nov 13, 2013, 5:06 AM
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Will do, thanks! By the way - didn't see the photos you posted of the restoration in progress until after I initially replied yesterday. Looks great! Definitely gonna give the blog a read.

Oh, and here's where I originally found out a little bit about your place. I'm pretty sure you've already seen this, it's a book about Bungalow Heaven as a whole:

http://books.google.com/books?id=aDn...0house&f=false
Tetsu, thanks for your kind words. And re the Bungalow Heaven book, by a great coincidence my wife managed to dig that up just last night. While I of course appreciate the supportive words that author offers, I have to wonder why he did not simply approach us to get some more accurate information. Much of what he says is incorrect.
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My favorite line about Gary Cooper--supposedly uttered by Clara Bow--was that "He was hung like a horse and could go all night." Somewhere else I've read that he was actually a slam-bam type. As if anyone really knows.
In David Stenn's biography, Runnin' Wild, of Clara Bow:

Producer Budd Schulberg says, "Coop might have been the Babe Ruth of the Hollywood boudoir league. It was whispered down the studio corridors that he had the endowments of Hercules and the staying powers of Job."
page 91

His wife attested that "he had many girlfriends." "At the time, tales of the star who spoke softly but carried a big stick spread despite his gentlemanly silence."
page 91

About the line you quote: It was purportedly told to Hedda Hopper who had inquired about her affair with Cooper. "Accurate or apocryphal?" writes Stenn. He personally interviewed actresses Esther Ralston and Lina Basquette and Tui Lorraine Bow, a good friend of Clara's who had married Clara's father, though was younger than Clara, and they all concur on it's validity as "She said things like that all the time" and "She and Gary had a pretty hot affair and Clara talked about it a lot."
page 94

Clara Bow's IT CAFE on Vine Street at the Hollywood Plaza Hotel:


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Sorry Otis but I missed a day or two looking at the forum here, I would have
put this up sooner [. . . ]
Thanks very much for smartening me up, Krell! I've been on Flickr for a while now, because of my blog, but I've never used it in this way before.
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Re: Bungalow court on steroids

On the county assessor's website it's listed as two adjacent parcels, 470 and 480 S. Burlington Avenue, with nine and ten units respectively. The build date is 1921, leading me to wonder if it was originally intended as a tourist hotel of some kind. Presumably it wouldn't have been a motel because even in 1921 there probably wasn't much parking around here. I'm thinking tourists because after all, people are generally a lot more willing to put up with such congested quarters for a night or two than for an indefinite period. It's depressing to see that these are now apparently permanent residences.

After all, motor courts were very popular in the 1920s and 30s, e.g. the "walls of Jericho" scene in It Happened One Night.

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bungalow court on steroids


I'm unsure if this was built during the post-war housing shortage or decades earlier by a overly greedy developer.

S. Burlington Avenue and 5th Street

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-their basic shape makes me think of the wooden bungalows of the 1920s & 1930s.

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I imagine the awful stucco was added much later (with a giant hose by the way they look )
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Hello oldstuff... interesting details about Charles Pinney. Any idea how he might have been related to Dr. Elbert Pinney, older by 47 years, also a Connecticut native and the builder of the well-known Pinney House in Sierra Madre? Elbert died in 1914 at age 90; while it's not exactly a rare name, the fathers of both Charles and Elbert were named Henry. More info on the Pinney House here:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1851
I did find a family connection but it is many generations back. Elbert's 5x great grandfather is Charles Lee's 5x great grandfather, Humphrey Pinney, born in England in either 1598 or 1605. Humphrey was the one who came to America, in 1630. Some family genealogy websites note that Humphrey came to American on the ship "Mary and John" and that they arrived in Boston Harbor on May 30, 1630.
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There was a little more elbow room at Annetta Court, 5146 to 5154-1/2 Sunset Blvd.:

USC Digital Library -- http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si.../id/4264/rec/1
Impressive place Flyingwedge!
At first glance I thought this was just a dual walkway, but obviously it was intended for cars since it's connected to the street
(where the photographer is standing).
So what did they do with their cars once they drove in there? (or was only used when a tenant was moving in or out)
-just a thought mind you.
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The Tower Auto Court

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detail of the tower (is that a clock?)



address: -it looks like 10880 Ventura Blvd. -so shouldn't it say N. Hollywood?




-the court included a small gas station


I hope we can dig up some more information on this place.
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Yes--it's 4472, once between Fremont Place and Fremont Place West, which I have in the hopper for an upcoming Wilshire Boulevard house history. Dr. Nelson's shenanigans (including his work as an abortionist) are only part of the story--in 1931 the house was raided while in operation as a speakeasy, and then a woman was stabbed to death in the house's servants' quarters.... Not your usual genteel Wilshire Boulevard house.
All that sounds extremely interesting to say the least GW!
abortions--speakeasy--murder. A noirish trifecta.
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Impressive place Flyingwedge!
At first glance I thought this was just a dual walkway, but obviously it was intended for cars since it's connected to the street in the foreground.
So what did they do with their cars once they drove in there? (or perhaps it was only used when a tenant was moving in or out)
-just a thought mind you.__
There are several apartment type places like this in West Hollywood that I've noticed walking around the area. None of them have the spacious front lawn area this one does. The facing apartments are about a car length apart, plus a little.

One person I know that lives in a similar place like this one drives his car through the middle of the apartments, like this, and on the opposite end, through an archway, which it appears there's one in this photo, there is a garage area for the tenants to park. I admit that when I visited several times I didn't know this "was" a driveway until I saw a car drive by one day looking out his window. It is aesthetically pleasing as when you're there you don't think of it as a driveway. It's also a bit jarring when you do see a car driving in it. Many of the places I've seen like this are up a bit of a hill to the entrance off the street and the driveway part to the street has concrete steps in the middle for people to climb up to the apartment area.
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Here's three more of the 1963 color shots of Cinerama under construction. It's a shame they're not zoomable like the USC pictures.


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There are also 4 color shots from 1965. This one shows the sad, empty lot where the NBC building once stood.


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Martin Pal, the building under construction directly across the street from Cinerama is the RCA Building. GW posted a good period picture of it almost exactly three years ago:

See the rest of GW's Cinerama post here.
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Here's a unique looking place that we haven't seen on noirish yet.

The Tower Auto Court

address: -it looks like 10880 Ventura Blvd. -so shouldn't it say N. Hollywood?

I hope we can dig up some more information on this place.
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That address, I believe, would be between Lankershim and Vineland, so Studio City, maybe Universal City...I don't know when they got their names.
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Here's three more of the 1963 color shots of Cinerama under construction. It's a shame they're not zoomable like the USC pictures.
Thanks for posting those ineresting photos! There's even a gasometer in one of them. I'm still amazed that there wasn't at least a little more traffic on those streets!
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One person I know that lives in a similar place like this one drives his car through the middle of the apartments, like this, and on the opposite end, through an archway, which it appears there's one in this photo, there is a garage area for the tenants to park. I admit that when I visited several times I didn't know this "was" a driveway until I saw a car drive by one day looking out his window. It is aesthetically pleasing as when you're there you don't think of it as a driveway. It's also a bit jarring when you do see a car driving in it. Many of the places I've seen like this are up a bit of a hill to the entrance off the street and the driveway part to the street has concrete steps in the middle for people to climb up to the apartment area.
Thanks for answering my question Martin. -much appreciated.
I checked the vintage aerial that Flyingwedge posted and didn't see any parking areas or garages. I'll go back and take another look.
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Here's a unique looking place that we haven't seen on noirish yet.

The Tower Auto Court



address: -it looks like 10880 Ventura Blvd. -so shouldn't it say N. Hollywood?

GSV

It was at 10980 Ventura, just east of the southeast corner of Vineland. It was later called the Tower Motor Hotel. There is still a filling station on the corner. Looks like a Mr. and Mrs. Donovan were the hosts.

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I decided to take a closer look at Annetta Court.

originally posted by Flyingwedge





It looks like there is a flagpole-like structure in the middle of the 'drive'. (as well as a group of people discussing the situation)

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circa 1945

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map courtesy of Santa Fe Bus Lines and the Glass House restaurant/1945





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HossC, I love this color aerial (where's all the traffic?!) especially for the view of the NBC Building. I never really liked the Sunset Vine Tower, it seems so out of place. It's like that obelisk in the film "2001" - which, I believe, premiered in Los Angeles at the Cinerama Dome a few years after this photo was taken.

Can we identify any other buildings here? -- Across Vine from NBC is Wallich's Music City. Going east or toward the top of the photo from NBC is the Hollywood Palladium. And across the street (behind the Sunset Vine Tower in the photo) would be where the Earl Carroll Theater Nightclub was.
In this photo is there a building under construction, barely visible, directly across the street from the C. Dome?
Cinerama lobby...

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