Gateway Discussion: Port Mann Bridge/Hwy 1/RapidBus

[officedweller]

On the panoramic view you can see down into the coffer dam for the north tower - that's pretty cool.

[xd_1771]

Looks like the one lane merge at 104th/off-ramp is taking its toll and it's finally showing up on google maps
Straight eastbound backup through to 152nd - and a major possibility that this is extending to 150th, 148th, possibly even beyond 148th

Westbound between 156th & 152nd is also a non-moving traffic disaster
Man I wish I could get pictures of this... both directions in gridlock. How bout I slap that in Mayor Diane Watt's face and get her to come up with some decent improvements to this area, finally (as well as killing the plans for anything at-grade on 104th between Whalley and Guildford... which, by the way, would totally destroy the area and Whalley-Guildford travel)

[go_leafs_go02]

Originally Posted by xd_1771

Looks like the one lane merge at 104th/off-ramp is taking its toll and it's finally showing up on google maps
Straight eastbound backup through to 152nd - and a major possibility that this is extending to 150th, 148th, possibly even beyond 148th

Westbound between 156th & 152nd is also a non-moving traffic disaster
Man I wish I could get pictures of this... both directions in gridlock. How bout I slap that in Mayor Diane Watt's face and get her to come up with some decent improvements to this area, finally (as well as killing the plans for anything at-grade on 104th between Whalley and Guildford... which, by the way, would totally destroy the area and Whalley-Guildford travel)

Blame the MOT for the off-ramps. It's Highway #1 traffic and the construction there that would cause the problems....

[xd_1771]

Nah, traffic problems are everywhere, any time, and absolutely horrendous in Surrey.

Have a look at google maps again. It is 10:25PM. 10...25...PM... and I am seeing red lines on the entire stretch of 104th in between Whalley and Guildford in the eastbound direction.

If neither BC MOT or the City of Surrey/Mayor Diane Watts is not to blame for letting these problems happen then I don't know what is. And the BC MOT is only making it worse with the construction, it's bad enough already. At this point I'm ready to believe this is a hate crime on the City of Surrey. They're letting us have it worse than everywhere else in all directions. Terrible existing roads (104th, sections of 152nd, 120th, KGH in some locations), terrible road plans... wait, what road plans, THEY AREN'T EVEN DOING MUCH... terrible existing transit (Whalley-Guildford), terrible transit plans (Still under-capacity Whalley-Guildford... and then Highway 1 narrowing at 104th!? Purposeful weaving everywhere on the new 1!?!!?!?), terrible traffic management (new 104th EB merge), terrible attention to people (they never really listen to any of us... I've e-mailed and expressed concern and nothing's changing), terrible everything. It's disgusting, and something needs to be done about it immediately. It's not just the City Either, MOT (incl. Gateway Program planning) is contributing greatly to this.

Way more traffic gets moved through streets in Vancouver or Burnaby which are way more dense and crowded than here in huge, spread out Surrey. Even Knight Street/Clark Dr. which is a 3-lane road with no left turn lanes in most places that is the major truck route between Deltaport & Port of Vancouver probably moves better than 104th.

It's so terrible that I think it's about time we take a major course of action... just have to figure out how to do that

[cabotp]

Originally Posted by xd_1771

Nah, traffic problems are everywhere, any time, and absolutely horrendous in Surrey.

Have a look at google maps again. It is 10:25PM. 10...25...PM... and I am seeing red lines on the entire stretch of 104th in between Whalley and Guildford in the eastbound direction.

If neither BC MOT or the City of Surrey/Mayor Diane Watts is not to blame for letting these problems happen then I don't know what is. And the BC MOT is only making it worse with the construction, it's bad enough already. At this point I'm ready to believe this is a hate crime on the City of Surrey. They're letting us have it worse than everywhere else in all directions. Terrible existing roads (104th, sections of 152nd, 120th, KGH in some locations), terrible road plans... wait, what road plans, THEY AREN'T EVEN DOING MUCH... terrible existing transit (Whalley-Guildford), terrible transit plans (Still under-capacity Whalley-Guildford... and then Highway 1 narrowing at 104th!? Purposeful weaving everywhere on the new 1!?!!?!?), terrible traffic management (new 104th EB merge), terrible attention to people (they never really listen to any of us... I've e-mailed and expressed concern and nothing's changing), terrible everything. It's disgusting, and something needs to be done about it immediately. It's not just the City Either, MOT (incl. Gateway Program planning) is contributing greatly to this.

Way more traffic gets moved through streets in Vancouver or Burnaby which are way more dense and crowded than here in huge, spread out Surrey. Even Knight Street/Clark Dr. which is a 3-lane road with no left turn lanes in most places that is the major truck route between Deltaport & Port of Vancouver probably moves better than 104th.

It's so terrible that I think it's about time we take a major course of action... just have to figure out how to do that

The bigger question though is why are people using 104 if it is backed up that badly. Why not take a different route? Unless the people in Surrey love to punish themselves.

And as it always been this way or is this something new since construstion time. If it is since construction time then will it be ok after the fact. If it will be or should be, then I say live and let live.

[go_leafs_go02]

Originally Posted by xd_1771

Nah, traffic problems are everywhere, any time, and absolutely horrendous in Surrey.

Have a look at google maps again. It is 10:25PM. 10...25...PM... and I am seeing red lines on the entire stretch of 104th in between Whalley and Guildford in the eastbound direction.

If neither BC MOT or the City of Surrey/Mayor Diane Watts is not to blame for letting these problems happen then I don't know what is. And the BC MOT is only making it worse with the construction, it's bad enough already. At this point I'm ready to believe this is a hate crime on the City of Surrey. They're letting us have it worse than everywhere else in all directions. Terrible existing roads (104th, sections of 152nd, 120th, KGH in some locations), terrible road plans... wait, what road plans, THEY AREN'T EVEN DOING MUCH... terrible existing transit (Whalley-Guildford), terrible transit plans (Still under-capacity Whalley-Guildford... and then Highway 1 narrowing at 104th!? Purposeful weaving everywhere on the new 1!?!!?!?), terrible traffic management (new 104th EB merge), terrible attention to people (they never really listen to any of us... I've e-mailed and expressed concern and nothing's changing), terrible everything. It's disgusting, and something needs to be done about it immediately. It's not just the City Either, MOT (incl. Gateway Program planning) is contributing greatly to this.

Way more traffic gets moved through streets in Vancouver or Burnaby which are way more dense and crowded than here in huge, spread out Surrey. Even Knight Street/Clark Dr. which is a 3-lane road with no left turn lanes in most places that is the major truck route between Deltaport & Port of Vancouver probably moves better than 104th.

It's so terrible that I think it's about time we take a major course of action... just have to figure out how to do that

Have you emailed the City? do they know your concerns? You can comment or complain all you want on here, but you won't get anywhere with that. Surrey has a website you can check out and you can file complaints or comments.

Transit again is not Surrey's responsibility. And I know the Mayor constantly is not happy with current transit service anywhere. She even announced yesterday that they're looking into a light rail route to possibly connect Guildford and City Centre.... And unfortunately, traffic moving freely through rush hour - that's not something that is possible in any major city.

Don't travel up there at rush-hour, but there's 100 Avenue that goes to 160 Street you can take as an alternative if you would like.

[xd_1771]

I have e-mailed the city a few times and with recent plans having been suggested I am definitely going to be outward in expressing my concerns a lot more. However, I require support from friends, family members, and members here on Skyscraperpage, and at the moment I also have to work to attain that.

She even announced yesterday that they're looking into a light rail route to possibly connect Guildford and City Centre.... And unfortunately, traffic moving freely through rush hour - that's not something that is possible in any major city.

These are exactly the plans I am trying to counter.

Another on-topic thing I'd like to say: I have seen four big trucks pass by on my local, residential street trying to avert traffic on 104 eastbound between 152nd and 160th. that's right, 4 trailer trucks barelling through non-busy residential streets where kids are walking and playing, at 60km/h, right outside my window. It's that bad and definitely worse than you think.

[SpongeG]

well thats the growing pains of a city - surrey will be bigger than vancouver one day so you better get used to it or move to port alice

[xd_1771]

well thats the growing pains of a city - surrey will be bigger than vancouver one day so you better get used to it or move to port alice

I don't plan to live here in my future, but I have families, younger brothers and sisters, who will be experiencing the future of the city for themselves, and I want to ensure that when that time comes they don't step out the door and look around and find a city that is still totally screwed up. As a city that is going to soon be bigger than Vancouver in population, the treatment of the City of Surrey is very, very critical. One wrong step could send us careening and turn into another Dawson City, Yukon.

[SpongeG]

I don't know anything about yukon so whatever - but surrey is trying to please too many people by allowing rows and rows and acres and acres of single family homes to be built its not helping itself

[bulliver]

Originally Posted by xd_1771

Another on-topic thing I'd like to say: I have seen four big trucks pass by on my local, residential street trying to avert traffic on 104 eastbound between 152nd and 160th. that's right, 4 trailer trucks barelling through non-busy residential streets where kids are walking and playing, at 60km/h, right outside my window. It's that bad and definitely worse than you think.

I suggest you phone the RCMP and notify them of this. I am a trucker myself, and I can assure you a real professional driver would not do such a thing. Not sure about Surrey, but in these parts a ticket for traveling off-truck route without paper detailing a local delivery or pick-up is just under $300.

Another option is to note the unit number of the tractor or trailer and complain directly to the carrier. Any moving violations assessed to a driver also affect the record of the carrier, so generally employers have an interest in seeing their drivers operate legally and above-board.

[go_leafs_go02]

Originally Posted by bulliver

I suggest you phone the RCMP and notify them of this. I am a trucker myself, and I can assure you a real professional driver would not do such a thing. Not sure about Surrey, but in these parts a ticket for traveling off-truck route without paper detailing a local delivery or pick-up is just under $300.

Another option is to note the unit number of the tractor or trailer and complain directly to the carrier. Any moving violations assessed to a driver also affect the record of the carrier, so generally employers have an interest in seeing their drivers operate legally and above-board.

Recommend actually you contact the City's by-law department on that.

I know certain Cities where by-laws are completely reactive, meaning they only issue tickets if a complaint has been given. If they don't know - they don't give tickets.

[xd_1771]

Thanks, both of you. I will be sure to watch for more trucks on my street and record their plate numbers and such if possible.

[twoNeurons]

Let us know if you're successful. It may have been an isolated incident.

[SpongeG]

some pics from coquitlam lougheed highway - all pics by me

- they have diverted traffic to the left - basically this section of east bound is now using the old west bound lanes which have been moved further north










new overpass


new overpass - this is also where you have to pay attention to what lane you are in - left is lougheed east right is to united blvd.

[cabotp]

Originally Posted by bulliver

I suggest you phone the RCMP and notify them of this. I am a trucker myself, and I can assure you a real professional driver would not do such a thing. Not sure about Surrey, but in these parts a ticket for traveling off-truck route without paper detailing a local delivery or pick-up is just under $300.

Another option is to note the unit number of the tractor or trailer and complain directly to the carrier. Any moving violations assessed to a driver also affect the record of the carrier, so generally employers have an interest in seeing their drivers operate legally and above-board.

Reminds me of the time a few years ago.

I was driving south on Nanaimo and had just gotten past Kingsway. I go around the slight bend coming up to 33rd ave. Now anyone who knows this street on here. Will know that south of 33rd ave. Nanaimo is a residential street that goes past a school zone and has a residential traffic circle at 40th ave.

So I approach 33rd ave and what do I see a tractor with a 53' trailer. Uh ya. So this goes procedes south on Nanaimo. Goes past the school zone. Of course he/she comes up to the little traffic circle and stops. Gee I wonder why. I have no idea how long it took him to get out of there because I didn't stick around to wait. But the only thing I was thinking was IDIOT.

[officedweller]

Thanks for the pis.

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by cabotp

Of course he/she comes up to the little traffic circle and stops. Gee I wonder why.

Ha! I know exactly the traffic circle you're talking about - wish I'd seen that, I'd have taken a picture!

[Cypherus]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Thanks for the pis.

This is the first time I've read someone thank another person for piss.

[xd_1771]

Originally Posted by Cypherus

This is the first time I've read someone thank another person for piss.

Happens all the time buddy (yes sir yes guy is actually me)

Concerning the trucks thing, it's been happening for awhile. My parents have noticed it long before I did, just didn't really bother doing anything about it up until now when I told them it's supposedly illegal. They say the trucks pass by our street... some 3 or 4... every day, and it's been like this for awhile. There aren't any traffic circles here (which might actually be a good idea since the streets throug this neighbourhood are far from a major route) but perhaps I might request to the city that they be put in.