Gateway Discussion: Port Mann Bridge/Hwy 1/RapidBus - Page 164

Metro-One · #**3261** Posted: **May 22, 2012, 2:43 AM**

If I remember correctly the new 216th interchange requires some approval / input from Langley, so it may be built latter on as a stand alone project.

go_leafs_go02 · #**3262** Posted: **May 22, 2012, 3:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by dharper

All I am saying is that tapered point of the new pavement is at about 210th not at 216th. On the schematic drawing, you can see the roofs of the chicken barns to the south of the 216th proposed interchange, and the newly tapered pavement in quite a bit shy of that point.

Yep, that's correct. They end just past 208th. 216th is just before those warning signs for the overhead truck height limit.

mezzanine · #**3263** Posted: **May 26, 2012, 2:53 AM**

PMB circa 1963, via pricetags

http://pricetags.wordpress.com/2012/...a-la-kluckner/

aberdeen5698 · #**3264** Posted: **May 26, 2012, 3:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by mezzanine

PMB circa 1963, via pricetags

It looks quite beautiful in that bucolic setting. Of course in those days it still had those godawful florescent lights right at eye level in the railings. Short of the extra lane, replacing those lights with overhead lamps was the best thing they ever did to that bridge.

cairnstone · #**3265** Posted: **May 26, 2012, 8:32 PM**

that is a nice find the picture of the Port Mann bridge. It sure gives a great picture of how much the city has grown in 50 years.

Cypherus · #**3266** Posted: **May 27, 2012, 1:14 AM**

I can't believe how under-developed the area was around the Port Mann bridge back then. It looks worlds better than what the present day has to offer.

Zassk · #**3267** Posted: **May 27, 2012, 1:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by Cypherus

I can't believe how under-developed the area was around the Port Mann bridge back then. It looks worlds better than what the present day has to offer.

The new freeway and bridge are what enabled the city to assimilate this once idyllic scene. However, it was not all pristine land - there was a major garbage dump and large sawmills just a little further along the flats, to the right of the picture.

Metro-One · #**3268** Posted: **May 27, 2012, 1:51 AM**

I am sure without the #1 that area would be developed today as well, as you already pointed out, that area was not as pristine as the photo makes it looks, there already was industrial development just to the right of the image.

hollywoodnorth · #**3269** Posted: **May 27, 2012, 2:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zassk

The new freeway and bridge are what enabled the city to assimilate this once idyllic scene. However, it was not all pristine land - there was a major garbage dump and large sawmills just a little further along the flats, to the right of the picture.

Not to mention the massive one to the East of the Surrey Bridge Head build in 69 and closed in 97 ....

aka this park now >> http://www.surrey.ca/plans-strategies/3125.aspx

st7860 · #**3270** Posted: **May 28, 2012, 12:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by jhausner

Look back in history and a lot of news paper articles called the Alex Fraser bridge a huge white elephant as it was "a massive bridge to nowhere" as they used to call it. 25 years later and I don't think anyone could imagine the region without that bridge. Oh and let us not forget the AFB never had tolls so it was 100% tax payer funded with no recoup... unlike the GEB and PMB.

Oh those were the days.

The people who think tolls are better than raising property or income taxes never realise how far people will drive to avoid a $2 toll.

Pinion · #**3271** Posted: **May 28, 2012, 3:14 AM**

I was in the Stone Cliff condo area today, which is in western West Vancouver, and could clearly see the new glistening white Port Mann bridge from there. Pretty impressive.

GeeCee · #**3272** Posted: **May 28, 2012, 6:37 AM**

Just saw a report about some kind of explosion on the PMB.. https://twitter.com/ScanBC/status/206996610390032385

Mousey · #**3273** Posted: **May 28, 2012, 4:10 PM**

Wondering something about Hwy 1 EB since I had a weird experience late on Saturday night around 1am. I jumped on it to quickly get between Willingdon-Gaglardi. When I got on, it felt like rush hour...

Traffic, and not just a little, but to the point where I couldn't pass anyone and was stuck driving at around 75 km/h. Moderate volume and difficult to pass. It wasn't just a small group of cars that bunched up, it was a good 1/2 mile long. Would this of been caused by construction delays? Or are we sadly beginning to turn into Los Angeles where 3 am traffic jams aren't unheard of? I love the 99/91 at 1am because you can get bewteen Vancouver-Surrey in under 10 minutes, but Hwy 1 should be the same at that time.
I wasn't planning to fly down Hwy 1 at 140 km/h, but I did expect to drive freely and get between cities quick.

GeeCee · #**3274** Posted: **May 28, 2012, 5:03 PM**

nm, misread

mrjauk · #**3275** Posted: **May 28, 2012, 7:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mousey

Wondering something about Hwy 1 EB since I had a weird experience late on Saturday night around 1am. I jumped on it to quickly get between Willingdon-Gaglardi. When I got on, it felt like rush hour...

Traffic, and not just a little, but to the point where I couldn't pass anyone and was stuck driving at around 75 km/h. Moderate volume and difficult to pass. It wasn't just a small group of cars that bunched up, it was a good 1/2 mile long. Would this of been caused by construction delays? Or are we sadly beginning to turn into Los Angeles where 3 am traffic jams aren't unheard of? I love the 99/91 at 1am because you can get bewteen Vancouver-Surrey in under 10 minutes, but Hwy 1 should be the same at that time.
I wasn't planning to fly down Hwy 1 at 140 km/h, but I did expect to drive freely and get between cities quick.

Concertgoers returning home from BC Place?

Pinion · #**3276** Posted: **May 28, 2012, 8:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by mrjauk

Concertgoers returning home from BC Place?

Yep, Roger Waters (Pink Floyd) was at BC Place.

sacrifice333 · #**3277** Posted: **May 28, 2012, 8:11 PM**

60K stoned drivers have difficulty navigating the 80/90km/h speed limit.

dleung · #**3278** Posted: **May 29, 2012, 3:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by Cypherus

I can't believe how under-developed the area was around the Port Mann bridge back then. It looks worlds better than what the present day has to offer.

If Surrey and Coquitlam had been left forested, and all development happened on the Burrard Penninsula, we would be seeing much more interesting housing typologies now, and not have the dubious honour of soon having the widest long-span bridge on the world.

officedweller · #**3279** Posted: **May 29, 2012, 9:44 AM**

Well, the areas flanking Hwy 1 are occupied by light industrial space - so that would have required Vancouver to maintain its light industrial lands (at affordable cost) rather than replace them with housing.

adrianroam95 · #**3280** Posted: **May 29, 2012, 10:40 PM**

New webcams are live!
Check them out: http://wcs.pbaeng.com/projects/PMH1

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