PHILADELPHIA | The Development Thread VIII

[Aaamazarite]

Originally Posted by bucks native

source: http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelp...up-latest.html

Science Center leases up latest building, looks to expand

Philadelphia Business Journal by Natalie Kostelni, Reporter

Friday, May 11, 2012, 9:16am EDT

That would explain why a rendering of a spec building has been posted at the KOZ'd empty lot on the southwest corner of 38th and Chestnut. GlaxoSmithKline should have moved there.

[summersm343]

Originally Posted by Aaamazarite

That would explain why a rendering of a spec building has been posted at the KOZ'd empty lot on the southwest corner of 38th and Chestnut. GlaxoSmithKline should have moved there.

I believe this is for the proposed 25 story apartment tower. I could be wrong though

[SkyscraperGuru]

Where does one find such rendering? Lol.

[Jelly Roll]

Originally Posted by SkyscraperGuru

Where does one find such rendering? Lol.

http://hiddencityphila.org/2012/04/2...-and-chestnut/

[Aaamazarite]

Originally Posted by Jelly Roll

http://hiddencityphila.org/2012/04/2...-and-chestnut/

Sorry, I miswrote in my last post. I meant the empty lot at the SW corner of 38th and Market. There's a rendering for a skyscraper that has been recently posted on the site that would be part of the UC Science Center.

[cubanChris]

Originally Posted by Aaamazarite

Sorry, I miswrote in my last post. I meant the empty lot at the SW corner of 38th and Market. There's a rendering for a skyscraper that has been recently posted on the site that would be part of the UC Science Center.

Oh wow, you're talking about something independent of the apartment tower in that link then?

That would be quite a lot of activity and resulting new buildings in a few block radius.

[bucks native]

Originally Posted by acenturi

Great skyline view over newly completed Penn Park :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/univers...ia/6947753726/

Outstanding! Thanks for that. Imagine the views of Penn's fields from those buildings. Anyone seen the fields lighted at night, from the air?

[Jelly Roll]

Originally Posted by Aaamazarite

Sorry, I miswrote in my last post. I meant the empty lot at the SW corner of 38th and Market. There's a rendering for a skyscraper that has been recently posted on the site that would be part of the UC Science Center.

Are you talking about 3737 Market? http://www.3711market.com/3737market.asp

[bucks native]

source NYTimes: http://travel.nytimes.com/2012/05/13...e-rolling.html

The best way to experience Philadelphia’s still surging street-food scene is at one of the city’s Night Markets, organized by the local nonprofit Food Trust, with financing from the William Penn Foundation. In the market, first held in October 2010, a battalion of trucks (and other mobile food vendors) converges on a designated stretch of a particular neighborhood. This year’s first two events will take place in the Northern Liberties neighborhood on May 24, on Washington Avenue in South Philadelphia, across from the city’s historic Italian Market, on June 28, and in Mount Airy on Aug. 16.

[hammersklavier]

Hey, check it out, Google Maps finally has 45-degree view of Philadelphia.

[summersm343]

Good news today!

There is residential development proposed for 320 North Christopher Columbus Blvd... that is the empty lot on the waterfront right after the Ben Franklin Bridge on the left bounded by Front st, Columbus Blvd, Water St and Vine Street. It is 11 stories high.



Here is the link to the article.
http://planphilly.com/mid-rise-apart...ranklin-bridge



Also, I was driving down 19th today and I passed some construction work at the Northwest Corner of 19th and Callowhill... anyone know what's going on here?

[sayitaintso]

[QUOTE=summersm343;5700810]Good news today!


How is this good news? The original plan from these developers was a high rise. Now we get a squat box?? How will any density be achieved if no new development can be taller than 100ft? Are they actively trying to thwart a lively dense mixed use atmosphere? That's what they're doing if this stupid height restriction is enacted. What's the justification? It's not as if a neighborhood actually exists along Columbus. Which is why w/out a mix of highrise and mid rise buildings it will take 75 years to completely build out a vibrant, dense environment. FAIL

[Aaamazarite]

Originally Posted by Jelly Roll

Are you talking about 3737 Market? http://www.3711market.com/3737market.asp

Nope, the lot catercorner to that. The SW corner of 38th and Market. There's a rendering posted at the site... I'll see if I can get a pic of it on my way to work tomorrow.

[summersm343]

[QUOTE=sayitaintso;5700832]

Originally Posted by summersm343

Good news today!


How is this good news? The original plan from these developers was a high rise. Now we get a squat box?? How will any density be achieved if no new development can be taller than 100ft? Are they actively trying to thwart a lively dense mixed use atmosphere? That's what they're doing if this stupid height restriction is enacted. What's the justification? It's not as if a neighborhood actually exists along Columbus. Which is why w/out a mix of highrise and mid rise buildings it will take 75 years to completely build out a vibrant, dense environment. FAIL

It's much better than the grass lot that is there now... why must every new development be 500 feet tall in Philadelphia? It's not going to happen. Your point exactly... there is NO NEIGHBORHOOD here on the waterfront... so if a development was to be built here reaching 500 feet it would saturate the market... this area has plenty of empty lots and plenty of room for the highrises you so desire... you have to work your way up to taller buildings. You build to critical mass then build up when real estate prices rise and it is a necessity to build high it in order to make a profit. Do you know anything about the way development works?

[summersm343]

Originally Posted by Aaamazarite

Nope, the lot catercorner to that. The SW corner of 38th and Market. There's a rendering posted at the site... I'll see if I can get a pic of it on my way to work tomorrow.

Sounds good... I'm interested in this. Sounds like we may be getting three highrises in this area? I thought the Science Center was building a new highrise right across the street from their current location... is this highrise independent from the Science Center?

Also, there is a render for what looks like a pretty tall building on the surface lot at front and sansom... I didn't get a good look at it... anyone know what this could be?

[Jonboy1983]

Summersm, I don't think that's a squat box. To me, a squat box is what they want to propose out in Pittsburgh that will house a Toby Keith (I love this) Bar & Grill. 11 stories should be sufficient enough, and from the looks of it, that building should offer a number of units.

Being that this will be right on top of the Delaware River, I don't think you necessarily want to see 20-plus-story buildings. Granted there are a few just up the river from there, but in general you don't want to have the waterfront lined with a wall of 400-to-500-foot tall residential boxes. I think midrises (10-18 stories) would look just fine in here, and that's what I see with that development, a decent-looking midrise.

[Jelly Roll]

Originally Posted by summersm343

Also, there is a render for what looks like a pretty tall building on the surface lot at front and sansom... I didn't get a good look at it... anyone know what this could be?

This site is 126-138 S Front St (zoned C-3) and 111-119 Walnut St (zoned C-3). It is a 1.57 acre lot that is currently listed for sale for $10,500,000. The site has a 5.5 FAR and is fully approved for luxury high-rise or hotel with street frontages on Samson, Front and Walnut. It has been listed for 28 days according to the listing broker which is Colliers International.

So who wants to crowd fund building a hotel in Old City?!?!

[Jelly Roll]

Originally Posted by Aaamazarite

Nope, the lot catercorner to that. The SW corner of 38th and Market. There's a rendering posted at the site... I'll see if I can get a pic of it on my way to work tomorrow.

3800 Market St is owned by Parkway Corp. That is all that I could find out about it.

[Jelly Roll]

Originally Posted by summersm343

It's much better than the grass lot that is there now... why must every new development be 500 feet tall in Philadelphia? It's not going to happen. Your point exactly... there is NO NEIGHBORHOOD here on the waterfront... so if a development was to be built here reaching 500 feet it would saturate the market... this area has plenty of empty lots and plenty of room for the highrises you so desire... you have to work your way up to taller buildings. You build to critical mass then build up when real estate prices rise and it is a necessity to build high it in order to make a profit. Do you know anything about the way development works?

The new planning in that area is putting in a 100 ft height restriction according to that article that was posted.

[SkyscraperGuru]

Ugh... Shamed in Philadelphia for wanting height restrictions. It's like they want to hurt the city.