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Old Posted Nov 16, 2009, 1:13 PM
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I don't know about you but this has plenty of merit.
look at it as a double venue option, it would be a definate selling point.
Just think:
Kitty corner to Copps for heaven forbid a Grey cup game or NFL game. Use the Jumbo tron as a Overflow site;
Parking there is alot of parking for the downtown and Hamilton Convention not to mention City Hall, so if a game was on a weekend or at night plenty of parking;
Hotel access, just think incorporate a walkway from jackson Square (like the Fallsview Hilton over to the Fallsview casino)or {the Sheraton at the airport in Toronto} and you would have the Sheraton connected. Heck if the new Hotel was built at Bay and Main/King you could see into the stadium from the upper rooms and maybe a luonge or restaurant up there. Most downtown hotels would be a casual stroll within eyesight of the stadium. So visitors with game packages would be parked at their hotel.
Transportation minutes from Hub and if you were to incorporate loading lanes on Bay, Cannon and York you would have plenty of bar bus or social event connectors;
Downtown business: This is even better than the waterfront. who would benefit, well just think Front street near the ACC. Hess village Jackson Square (a pre-game place to wander and grab a bite at the farmers market, coffee shops or several pubs {Walts, Honest Lawyer, Cottage Life}). Not to mention new activity on James from Wilson to Barton.
Existing traffic access. Well it is alot easier to drive straight down Cannon onto the 403 ramps (Guelph) or Plains road to Burlington or York/Wilson to Burlington Street than getting out of a basic residential area at the West harbour. There would have to be some thought into getting traffic smoothly onto the 403 to Brantford. Remember it is only a little over an hour to London so this market can be tapped as to get in and out of the downtown is easier than getting to Ivor Wynne.
The area may be small but go up. Also one downside of any waterfront arena is the wind off the water Brrrrrrrr
The Waterfront would be great and better than what we have and the airport is just anti downtown or commerce. Also force people to drive there.
Turn the Watrfont property into a park with a walking bridge to the waterfront over the RR tracks. This would be better for events like Aqua fest, wing fest walkathons and the fireworks on 1st of July. You could use the parking lot for the pre-game tailgate area with a path thru Central park to the arena.
Just think of a sports weekend catch a Bullsdog game and a TiCat game in 2 days. Hotel, teams and torutism package.
Finacially a bigger return to the city and especially business in the core!!!!!!!! Maybe put the Connaught back in the running as it is so close to the arena.
What about a first rate Soccer team with world cup fever and How well Toronto FC is doing this is a great location with a bigger stadium.
So go SJAM
It just looks a bit small but it would only be the arena as some of the adminitrative funstions could be at Copps, HECFI or jackson Square.
As an added bonus it there not a heating plant at SJAM.

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Old Posted Nov 16, 2009, 5:11 PM
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good points. but won't amenities start appearing along Bay towards downtown? The west harbour location can begin to seed our bush leaque waterfront.

Marine Discovery.... has anyone been there? Should turn that into public housing.

THE HOTEL... we only have like one, two downtown now... The Plaza is barely solvent. A hotel at the water makes sense to me.

Transportation and parking can be handled with shuttle busses. which is not unlike NFL Games. Plenty of Parking at Wilson and John and Rebecca.

The waterfront is nothing but a park. I'd like to see more commercial, and condos. More park does nothing. Aquafest is gone isn;'t it for years now?

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Old Posted Nov 16, 2009, 5:21 PM
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I'm not in favour of an open air stadium right in the downtown core area. You think Hess Village is problem? HA!
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The Hall of Fame would like the opportunity to talk to Council in regards to a motion passed by the Hall of Fame Board to

“Investigate the move of the Canadian Football Hall of Fame and Museum to the new stadium site subject to final approval of the location, design and space for the Hall".
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Old Posted Dec 3, 2009, 10:46 PM
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Doesn't BMO Field look very similar to our stadium?



same two decks on one side, one end zone seating, and one flying wing/roof. 20,000 seats.

Ours will have 5,000 more and a slightly larger, flying wing roof
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Cats support city on new stadium
Will back whatever council chooses

January 13, 2010
John Kernaghan
http://www.thespec.com/Sports/Local%...article/704326

Tiger-Cats owner Bob Young will back whatever Pan Am Games stadium site the city chooses, wiping out fears the football club and city hall were on a collision course.

“We will make it work, whatever the city decides,” Young said today.

A report on the feasibility of two sites, the West Harbour location near Bay and Barton streets, and one in the airport area around Mount Hope, is expected Feb. 18.

The stadium is identified as a $102-million,15,000-seat stadium for track and field at the 2015 Games, but the city challenged the Ticats and other private partners to come up with $50 million to erect a facility to seat 24,000 to 27,000.

The club’s current home, Ivor Wynne Stadium, is near the end of its life. It costs $1.5 million a year to keep going and would cost almost $100 million to rebuild.

The city is committing $45 million towards the new stadium, while the provincial and federal governments will contribute $57 million.

Young has said the football club would donate “in the millions” to the project.

The Ticats owner has indicated a preference for a site at Confederation Park in the past, but city council voted that location off the table.
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2010, 2:44 AM
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Even Confed Park is far better then the stupid airport site.
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Can't think of anything worse than the airport. I'd rather see the damn thing in Burlington.
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'Build it, we'll play in it'
Cats owner backs any site city picks for stadium

January 14, 2010
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The Tiger-Cats are behind whatever Pan Am Games stadium site the city chooses, says club owner Bob Young.

Young's commitment wipes out fears the football club and city hall were on a collision course over the stadium location.

"We will make it work, whatever the site," Young said yesterday.

A report on the feasibility of two sites, the west harbour location near Bay and Barton streets, and one in the airport area around Mount Hope, is expected Feb. 18.

Young said the site selection will create some controversy, "but that will be short-lived" and everyone will move on.

The stadium is identified as a $102-million, 15,000-seat stadium for track and field at the 2015 Games, but the city has challenged the Ticats and other private partners to come up with $50 million to erect a facility of 24,000 to 27,000 seats as the new home of the Cats.

The club's home, Ivor Wynne Stadium, is near the end of its life. It costs $1.5 million a year to keep going and would cost almost $100 million to totally rebuild.

The city is committing $45 million toward the new stadium, while the provincial and federal governments will contribute $57 million.

Young has said the football club would donate "in the millions" to the project.

Yesterday, he pointed to the urgency in getting a stadium project up and running.

He's hoping for a facility that will best serve both the city and the Tiger-Cats.

Young has been meeting with prominent city business people about the stadium development. That includes Tom Weisz, the CEO of Effort Trust and chairperson of the city's Future Fund, who is a strong proponent of the west harbour site.

Hamilton's commitment of $60 million to the 2015 Games will come from the Future Fund.

Weisz believes the west harbour location best fits the fund's mandate of making a dramatic change to the face of the city through increased prosperity and enhanced community life.

Young's vote of confidence came as the 2015 host corporation board prepared for its first meeting today. Businessman David Braley, Hamilton's representative on the board, said he hopes it can get to work soon to identify a CEO and review plans for the $1.4-billion Games and billion-dollar athlete's village.
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The fact that they are still even considering the airport location makes me very angry.
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The fact that they are still even considering the airport location makes me very angry.
Me too. What are they thinking?!!
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Fresh renderings that council will soon debate about the location.....



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wow that bottom one is awesome. I'm glad it has two 'wings' now.

I wouldn't mind if this was on Lake Ontario. I think that could be a different type of waterfront. It could easily be built up with highrises and commercial, and with a break water, some sweet marinas could be built, a break wall connecting with the trail. It has a real beach, close to the QEW, it could really compete with Burlington's waterfront just over the Skyway.

But that won't happen because of one person. Chad Collins. How is that democratic?
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Does anyone know when this decision about location has to be made? I can't believe the airport is still in the running.
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Feb. 18th.
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2010, 4:51 PM
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same time as Metrolink? Feb 19
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Yep it's going to be a busy week.
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Yep it's going to be a busy week.
Only if Metrolinx actually comes through. I'm not holding my breath.
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2010, 6:15 PM
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It'll come through. If it didn't they would already announced that it'll be delayed yet again. People seem to forget that GO Transit and Metrolinx just merged together and wiped out the entire committee board. They are now looking for a new President. It takes time to adjust from all that and keep a multi-billion dollar crown corporation afloat.

The important part is to get this out before the provincial budget in March. Right now the province is reviewing all funding applications, we're working on a major one for McMaster. We've been practicing for the Q&A session from the ministry.
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If you look North of the warm up track you can see a temporary GO Train station. White hut and big green letters, probably saying GO Transit.
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