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Old Posted: Nov 14, 2009, 5:31 AM
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Old Posted: Nov 14, 2009, 11:08 AM
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You should get back on your meds.

Where's the hypocrisy in wanting better design and density? Just because somebody wants height doesn't mean they don't want quality. The reason NIMBYs are so successful is because they can point to failures like those condos along Laurier West, which are wretched.

As for Metropole, I'd happily have had it downtown.

There is nothing small-minded in expecting good design. It's the only way to give density a good name, twit.
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Old Posted: Nov 14, 2009, 11:43 AM
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Well, firstly people simply need to lay off the "ohh this builder is soooo much better" or "that design is soooo crappy" - Really, those people sound like 15 year old girls. Design is subjective, and some designs are more attractive to certain people, similarly to why some people find different girls more attractive than others. Really, is one person's opinion on who is attractive really wrong? No

And as for builder, as I've stated before many of the builders that have been upgraded to godlike status on this site have had the same errors in leaks, water flooding as other builders. It is a fact of construction and subcontractors and yes even Charlesfort has had its leaks, ex. Glasgow.

People really need to lay off the subjective opinions. I created a post before about how I could pick apart Hudson Park I in the many flaws that others subject other builders/buildings to. Missing amenities, protruding stairways in foyer, tiny hallways, carpet from elevators to end of halls etc etc ... So really, subjective opinions are simply that - subjective.

People should be simply glad that Ottawa's downtown is vibrant and being developed with diversity in mind. But seriously, people need to lay off the builder whoring on this site. You really don't need to inform others on how much you hate a certain builder, when your opinion really has no relevance or substance. We get it people, you don't like the builder don't post in the thread.
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Old Posted: Nov 14, 2009, 11:51 AM
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Nammo, yes storage lockers are available without cost. They are kind of small at 12 sq ft, even for Toronto standards, but they are free. Haha! Take what you can get, eh !!!
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Old Posted: Nov 14, 2009, 4:20 PM
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Sorry guys, but I'm not following the math. $420/sqft is high for new construction, in the Market, with a delivery date of mid-2013?

Resale prices in Claridge Plaza I are currently (ie. past 2 months) ringing in at $410 to $445 per square foot. Is the assumption that condo prices won't be going up in the next three and a half years?

Nearly new 1-bed units with parking in the downtown core are already reaching $300,000 in the resale market; judging from the number of cheque books wagging about at Wednesday's launch, condo prices aren't coming down anytime soon.
III prices will probably increase in stages from preconstruction to completion
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Old Posted: Nov 14, 2009, 7:59 PM
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Well, firstly people simply need to lay off the "ohh this builder is soooo much better" or "that design is soooo crappy" - Really, those people sound like 15 year old girls.
It's somewhat amusing though, all this hating on Claridge... ("Omigod, can you believe a 460sf studio???" Uhm, have you seen the size of the East Market Lofts???) Whether you agree with their design aesthetic and/or mission statement, fact is that Claridge is by far Ottawa's most prolific builder. If their product wasn't acceptable, their projects wouldn't sell, end of story. That they are so successful can only indicate that they know Ottawan's tastes better than some people on this board.

But that being said, Domicile clearly knows what they're doing because they have a huge, dedicated fan club. Ditto for Charlesfort. So it would seem that there is room in this town for a number of builders, catering to a variety of demographics.

So no need to hate, obviously a vast number of people in Ottawa like these beige towers just fine. Et quelle surprise!
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Old Posted: Nov 15, 2009, 3:38 AM
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Azn,
Thanks for taking the time to provide us some feedback and to write out the pricelist. I'm sure many on here are appreciative.

Rokko :-)
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Old Posted: Nov 17, 2009, 1:31 AM
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I was also there last Wednesday during the preliminary sales period. I brought some investors (I'm a Real Estate Broker) with me to check things out.

There was a fair number of people on site. Slowly, but surely, buyers started reserving units and the board starting filling up.

Here's what I know:

Parking spaces are available only (for now) to units on the 10th floor and up.
CP III is comprised of 220 units.

From what I could see, units on the North side (facing Rideau St.) were being picked up fast (The Yankee, Howston, and Howston (R)), some Jeters.

I was told they were going to stop at around 100 reservations as they were selling too many, too quickly.

As Azn mentioned, prices increased by $10K at 5h30pm, no exceptions.

They were not selling the next day Thursday, but would on the Saturday, and the Salesperson mentioned the prices would rise again.

Anyhow, two of my clients and I decided to each reserve/purchase a unit on the 26th floor, facing Rideau St.

Completion is set for mid 2013 (but since our units are on the 26th, would expect end of 2013)

I expect to get a call some time this week to take care of the paperwork.

That's all I have for now.

I will post any other information I receive when I obtain it.

Cheers.

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Old Posted: Nov 17, 2009, 6:27 PM
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Hey guys,

Received a call from Claridge Sales Office to schedule the meeting for the paperwork.

She said they have to schedule 105 appointments. 105 of 220 units.

FYI.

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Old Posted: Nov 17, 2009, 6:34 PM
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Potentially almost 50% sold out already... nice! When do they estimate construction will start?

Facing Rideau people have a view of one of my favourite Ottawa condos, East Market

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Potentially almost 50% sold out already... nice! When do they estimate construction will start?

Facing Rideau people have a view of one of my favourite Ottawa condos, East Market

That is why I have always thought the external look of the building doesnt matter much when buying. It is what you look face. E.g those South facing in east market Ph 3 will now have to look at a line of Claridge towers.
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Old Posted: Nov 17, 2009, 6:46 PM
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I don't know re: commencement of construction.

But given the commitment of 105 units, I think it will be sooner rather than later.

I believe there will be discussions regarding the tenancy of the National Bank and there will likely be a financial incentive for them to vacate early.

Should have more information this Friday.

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Old Posted: Nov 18, 2009, 3:38 AM
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That is why I have always thought the external look of the building doesnt matter much when buying. It is what you look face. E.g those South facing in east market Ph 3 will now have to look at a line of Claridge towers.
Actually no. The south facing units barely see Phase I. It is mainly covered by the massive blue glass 160 George condo. Only about 1/3 of Phase II is visible.

I think the people who are getting the big screw with the Phase III is the north facing units in the Richcraft condo build on Besserer.
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Old Posted: Nov 18, 2009, 10:56 PM
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105 units already? That is amazing. Makes you wonder when sales for CP4 will commence...hmm.. I feel for the Richcraft Galleria North facing unit owners as well.
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I believe there will be discussions regarding the tenancy of the National Bank and there will likely be a financial incentive for them to vacate early.

M.
National Bank building is slated for demolition come February next year.
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Old Posted: Nov 21, 2009, 10:28 PM
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there's an article on the launch in today's Homes section of the Citizen. Construction is set to begin in 2011.
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Old Posted: Nov 22, 2009, 6:56 PM
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there's an article on the launch in today's Homes section of the Citizen. Construction is set to begin in 2011.

In the heat of the deal

Last weekend, buyers lined up to nail down a Rideau Street condo. Smart strategy because prices were hiked by $10,000

By Michael Prentice, The Ottawa Citizen, November 21, 2009


ON THE STREETS: CLARIDGE PLAZA

It was selling madness last weekend when buyers lined up to write $5,000 cheques to reserve a condo in the third phase of the mammoth Rideau Street project being orchestrated by Claridge Homes.

Within 90 minutes of the sales launch, Claridge boosted prices by $10,000 in the 28-storey tower, which will have 226 units when construction is finished in the summer of 2013. Work is set to begin in 2011.

"It was wild, absolutely crazy," says Dan Kosabek, a mortgage lender who witnessed the scene when Claridge offered buyers the first opportunity to purchase.

Jeffrey Mziray, a 26-year-old bachelor and a real estate agent, was among the first to put down a $5,000 deposit on a two-bedroom condo in Phase 3 of Claridge Plaza. He already lives in a smaller condo in Phase 1 and has watched his investment grow.

Mziray decided to buy a larger apartment as an investment, or possibly as his future home when it's ready in four years. "That is four years out and a lot can happen," he says.

Mziray currently lives in a one-bedroom apartment with a den and a view of downtown Ottawa and the Gatineau Hills. His new 1,280-square-foot condo will have two bedrooms and a den. He paid $518,000, beating the $10,000 price hike.

Mziray loves the fact he won't have to pay most of the purchase price for about four years. Claridge Homes will have his $5,000 deposit, a deposit set to increase to 15 per cent of the purchase price, within the next few weeks.

"The longer it takes until my new apartment is built, the greater the profit I could make," says Mziray. "I've seen how well people have done who bought in Phase 1 of Claridge Plaza."

Past experience is no guarantee of future gains, as we are repeatedly being told about the stock market, but Mziray says condos in Phase 1 which cost $170,000 five years ago, are now selling for $300,000.

He decided to buy his first condo several years ago, but didn't actually have to come up with most of the purchase price until last year.

Phase 3 of the condo complex will sit at the corner of Rideau and Cumberland streets. The site is now occupied by a branch of the National Bank, as well as a chiropractor's office and a small apartment building, all of which will be demolished.

After factoring in the $10,000 increase, condos in Phase 3 will range from $185,000 for a 440-square-foot studio up to $700,000 for a penthouse measuring 1,415 square feet, featuring two bedrooms and a den.

Pent-up demand prompted 85 buyers to move quickly, putting down a $5,000 deposit, according to Kosabek, who is manager of mortgage development for TD Canada Trust in the Ottawa region. His bank is offering discounted mortgages in the building.

After Phase 3, there will be Phase 4 at Claridge Plaza. The first building is already occupied, and the second is nearing completion.

The first two towers front on Rideau Street, between Cumberland and Waller streets.

Claridge Plaza is the hottest selling condominium in the city, says Shawn Malhotra, vice-president of Claridge Homes. Still, Malhotra -- son of the firm's founder, Bill -- says he was surprised by the strength of demand when 250 guests showed up to an advance gathering in advance of last weekend's opening sales.

Demand turned to fast sales last Saturday, prompting Claridge to raise prices by $10,000 within the first 90 minutes, says Malhotra. The higher prices applied to anyone who had not picked up an information package at the front door.

Malhotra says demand used to be strongest for two-bedroom apartments.

Now, it's one-bedroom apartments that are hot commodities. Claridge has taken account of the shift, offering more one-bedroom condos in Phase 3.

TD Canada Trust is offering a cash-back deal to customers who purchase a condo, rebating one per cent of the mortgage. On taking out a mortgage of $150,000, the customer receives a cash payment from the bank of $1,500.

Such a mortgage now requires monthly payments of about $730 for the first five years.

Demand for Claridge Plaza condos is strong because of the location, says Kosabek.

"This area is No. 1 in the entire city, because it's downtown and within walking distance of so many attractions."

A downtown condo has greater appeal for older people who are downsizing, says the lender.

Many condos -- especially those costing less than $300,000 -- are being bought by investors, he says.

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Old Posted: Nov 22, 2009, 10:08 PM
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Those prices are ludacris man...Location or not, those condo's are like the size of my apartment...if not smaller...
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Those prices are ludacris man...Location or not, those condo's are like the size of my apartment...if not smaller...
Hmmm ... I don't quite follow the logic to that statement. Are condo's supposed to be bigger than apartments? I don't think I can continue replying to this ...
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A condo you buy... an apartment you rent... that's the only difference.
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