--- New Buildings Built in Traditional Architecture Style --- - Page 20

jetsetter · #**381** Posted: **Jun 25, 2012, 2:08 AM**

Good efforts I think. Not perfect by any means but good tries.

Shelby County, Kentucky Judicial Center - Completed 2012

KY Court of Justice @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/kycourt...7629430550820/

KY Court of Justice @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/kycourt...57629430550820

KY Court of Justice @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/kycourt...57629430550820

Hinesville, Georgia City Hall - Completed 2011

http://ga-hinesville.civicplus.com/gallery.aspx?AID=8

photoLith · #**382** Posted: **Jun 25, 2012, 4:19 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hed Kandi

Infill project in Houston.

Can you credit my photos when you use them, thanks.

Jasoncw · #**383** Posted: **Jun 26, 2012, 3:31 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetsetter

Good efforts I think. Not perfect by any means but good tries.

Shelby County, Kentucky Judicial Center - Completed 2012

KY Court of Justice @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/kycourt...57629430550820

I don't think "traditional" buildings should be made in the first place, but if you're going to, it's more than just opening up the ye olde catalogue and slapping some building products together.

What are those chunky rectangles between the 2nd and 3rd floors?

What's with that horrible arched window just sticking in the middle of the pediment? Why would you put a window there and why would you put such a horrible flat window there? It looks like a vinyl decal.

I can't tell if the seams on the bricks are expansion joints or if the facade is just a bunch of prefab wall sections (and this makes me wonder if those rectangle things fill up holes meant for air vents). Either way it looks horrible now, and the building is still new.

Then there's the interior typography. It looks like helvetica which is a great font but it looks like they went to home depot to buy those letters.

Quote:

Hinesville, Georgia City Hall - Completed 2011

http://ga-hinesville.civicplus.com/gallery.aspx?AID=8

This one is a weird mishmash of vague traditionalness, but at least they tried to do something nice with the brickwork.

But then for the main entrance there are those absolutely horrible horrible windows. You can tell by the rest of the building that they had a budget, so I think those windows are unforgivable.

jetsetter · #**384** Posted: **Jun 27, 2012, 2:58 AM**

Quote:

I don't think "traditional" buildings should be made in the first place, but if you're going to, it's more than just opening up the ye olde catalogue and slapping some building products together.

As I said, not perfect. Then again I don't think "modernist" buildings should be made in the first place.

Hed Kandi · #**385** Posted: **Jul 20, 2012, 3:45 AM**

St. Petersburg - New Building Completed 2012

ardecila · #**386** Posted: **Jul 20, 2012, 8:25 AM**

The materials and detailing look very good but the composition is a little off... clearly the architect is trying to "flatten" a more three-dimensional building into a two-dimensional facade, but the way he arranged the layers is a little weird.

The base is one sheer rusticated wall, which doesn't reflect all the different segments and setbacks you see at the cornice line. This might make sense if there was a very strong, clear line drawn at the top of the base, but there isn't.

There's also no primacy to the central archway, which is kinda off-putting.

8/10 overall

Centropolis · #**387** Posted: **Jul 20, 2012, 5:39 PM**

bad photo, residential infill in st. louis

http://pictures.cbgundaker.com/cbgli...10007884_1.jpg

new corner building.

http://www.mrdcorp.com/images_properties/3501juni.jpg

Hayward · #**388** Posted: **Jul 20, 2012, 6:10 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetsetter

Indeed. About the only misstep I can see are the windows. They are too modern and could use more complex framing like the South Hall building I posted.

I've actually been in the new law building at U of M...windows could have been a little better. But the stonework is beautiful.

Hayward · #**389** Posted: **Jul 20, 2012, 6:16 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jasoncw

I don't think "traditional" buildings should be made in the first place, but if you're going to, it's more than just opening up the ye olde catalogue and slapping some building products together.

What are those chunky rectangles between the 2nd and 3rd floors?

What's with that horrible arched window just sticking in the middle of the pediment? Why would you put a window there and why would you put such a horrible flat window there? It looks like a vinyl decal.

I can't tell if the seams on the bricks are expansion joints or if the facade is just a bunch of prefab wall sections (and this makes me wonder if those rectangle things fill up holes meant for air vents). Either way it looks horrible now, and the building is still new.

Then there's the interior typography. It looks like helvetica which is a great font but it looks like they went to home depot to buy those letters.

This one is a weird mishmash of vague traditionalness, but at least they tried to do something nice with the brickwork.

But then for the main entrance there are those absolutely horrible horrible windows. You can tell by the rest of the building that they had a budget, so I think those windows are unforgivable.

Though I agree with your criticism, I disagree with the argument we shouldn't be building traditional structures. Though architects may guide style, they aren't some ultimate authority on taste. The architects duty is to balance cost and quality. Architects deliver product, and the client is the shopper. So as long as there is a slice of the population commanding classical architecture, there will be a market. A well talented, educated and experienced professional will beautifully deliver classical style if it meets the budget.

Centropolis · #**390** Posted: **Jul 21, 2012, 2:37 AM**

http://jeffdayllc.com/wp-content/upl...ippi_ave_3.jpg

Centropolis · #**391** Posted: **Jul 21, 2012, 2:38 AM**

Soulard and Lafayette Square in St. Louis are loaded with attempts to build "traditional" structures, some attempts better than others...generally they come out looking a little "flat-faced..."

Centropolis · #**392** Posted: **Jul 21, 2012, 2:42 AM**

Here's that same house from the crappy photo. Its currently on the market for a good chunk of change more than basically the same exact gut rehabbed structure. I guess it has a big yard for the city.

photoLith · #**393** Posted: **Jul 21, 2012, 3:42 AM**

Those buildings in STL are good, but they need to connect to the sidewalk better. But at least they are attempting to make them look historic. When I was in STL I remember seeing these shit suburban styled neighborhoods right near downtown. They didnt even attempt to make them look good or integrate with the city. They just plopped a generic suburban development right into the middle of historic neighborhoods. I dont see why its so hard for developers to get it right. I mean, they did it in the 1800s, surely its not that hard to imitate that exact style and execute it correctly. I just dont get it.

Centropolis · #**394** Posted: **Jul 21, 2012, 4:05 AM**

That stuff you saw probably replaced projects and was mixed income, it's pretty bad though in a place that should be way more urban.

ardecila · #**395** Posted: **Jul 21, 2012, 9:44 AM**

1614 N. Leavitt, Chicago IL

Built from salvaged bricks. Note the stained glass (new I believe). The property to the right is a similar new building.

source

Centropolis · #**396** Posted: **Jul 21, 2012, 3:25 PM**

wow, one of those rare examples that I might not be able to tell it's a new structure. there's just so many out there that are just slighty off.

Here's a flounder house under construction...definitely a 19th century style, but built with modern materials (next to a new st. louis style shotgun).

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4041/...89df0911ef.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3328/...85d25a43e8.jpg

an original st louis flounder for reference. i think its awesome that someone would resurrect that form in a relevant context.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3374/...9fb3cfc28c.jpg

ardecila · #**397** Posted: **Jul 21, 2012, 6:01 PM**

Flounder house... interesting. It definitely has echoes of New Orleans. I dig.

Centropolis · #**398** Posted: **Jul 21, 2012, 6:06 PM**

I've heard that flounders came about due to taxing structures that counted them as half a house....don't know if that is just legend...

Centropolis · #**399** Posted: **Jul 21, 2012, 6:17 PM**

Here's another brand new, bigger flounder next to a new set of rows also in St. Louis.

elCreatore · #**400** Posted: **Jul 21, 2012, 7:30 PM**

• Video Link