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Old Posted: Jun 1, 2010, 9:25 PM
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hopefully it's over 700 feet for it could have some nice views of the future great 57th street canyon.
Good point. Carnegie 57 is bound to make the location even more desirable than its already uniquely prominent location, which will fetch higher demand and prices, hopefully resulting in taller height and/or better design.
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Anything to just fill that hole. I do think though that Carnegie 57 will act as a confidence boost to developers planning other high end residential projects throughout the city. Whether or not it has direct influence on this particular one remains to be seen, but you never know.
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If Macklowe builds a slim hotel-condo, this tower could be around 1,000 feet tall. Torre Verre is around 1,000, and it has about 650,000 sf.
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Demolition of some of the small buildings on 57th Street is imminent. Presumably, something will start rising here in 2011.
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It's sad to see these buildings go. On this site could rise either a nearly 300m residential or a 200m office.


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http://therealdeal.com/newyork/artic...st-57th-street

Harry Macklowe to go head-to-head with subtenant over eviction at former Drake site
October 06, 2010

By David Jones


Harry Macklowe and 38 East 57th StreetA state Supreme Court judge ordered developer Harry Macklowe to face off in arbitration against a retail subtenant that filed a $20 million lawsuit to block an eviction at 38 East 57th Street, a parcel at the site of the former Drake Hotel.

The subtenant, luxury watch seller Franck Muller Retail, filed suit Sept. 24, alleging Macklowe and his Los Angeles-based partners, CIM Group, served a bogus eviction notice as a pretext to empty the building and proceed with their controversial hotel and condominium project.
Macklowe bought the former hotel site at Park Avenue and 56th Street for $418 million in 2006, and planned to demolish several buildings to convert the site into a hotel, with retail space and condominiums.

In November 2008, Macklowe paid $5.35 million to buy out the building lease from Sovereign Partners, which leased out the entire building. Franck Muller originally signed the sublease for the ground floor and mezzanine space in 2005, and the sublease is not scheduled to expire until 2018, according to court documents.

Macklowe also faced foreclosure from Deutsche Bank after defaulting on his loans at the site, leading him to eventually sell the lease and the property to a CIM affiliate and bring CIM in as a partner.

"Like Brer Rabbit in the Briar Patch, there is nothing Macklowe and his partner CIM would welcome more than being able to invent a 'default' which would in turn provide pretextual grounds for a wholly consensual 'eviction,' and related wrongful termination of plaintiff's sublease," wrote Alexandra Wald, attorney for Franck Muller.

Wald said the retailer has spent more than $1.25 million to renovate the space since moving in, and made it more attractive for customers.

Wald said the retailer received a letter dated Sept. 17 stating that it had failed to pay more than $462,000 in rent since April 2010. The letter states the amount of the rent owed is based on appraisals by the landlord. The retailer claims that the landlord has conspired with Macklowe and CIM not to pay the rent, according to court records.

"Upon information and belief, either CIM's principals or their business partner Macklowe have caused the landlord, an affiliate of CIM, not to pay the purportedly demanded rent increase on the ground lease to manufacture a sham and consensual default by the landlord," lawyers wrote in the complaint. "CIM and/or Macklowe will then cause the [owner of the ground lease] to seek to terminate the ground lease and landlord's subleases [including plaintiff's lease]."

Attorney Richard Claman, representing CIM and Macklowe, argued that Franck Muller signed a lease for rent that was well below market and knew, or should have known, that the lease agreement called for a substantial increase in the ground lease payments in 2010.

He said that based on two new appraisals by Jerome Haims Realty and Cushman & Wakefield, the fair market rent for the space is $1.4 million per year.

"FMR cannot properly insist that the net lessee remain in business, at a loss for the next eight years, just to protect FMR's below market rent," Claman wrote.

Macklowe declined to comment.

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wow those are absolutely beautiful town homes. It is a shame they are going to be demoed (as well as the hotel was). Whatever replaces it better be pretty damn tall and awesome
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are there any renderings???? and whats the status?
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No.

First it was to be hotel-condos, then an office tower, now hotel-condos again. Residential is preferable to office space because the former will result in a much taller tower. This should be at least 275m.
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From the 15 Dec. 2010 NY Post:

In other CIM news, sources tell us the LA-based fund that also partnered with Harry Macklowe at the Drake site has reached a confidential settlement with its retail tenant, Franck Muller.

The watchmaker did not want to move out of the tony, East 57th Street townhouse that sits across from the Four Seasons Hotel. But it is circled for demolition as part of the planned Drake redevelopment.

"Assume the tenant will be moving out [after the holidays]," said one source familiar with the terms of the mediation agreement. Lawyers for both sides declined to comment, and a wrap-up court hearing is scheduled for next year.



Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/busines...#ixzz18B9FyP3V
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CIM Group buys townhouse at Drake site
January 05, 2011 11:50AM

By Adam Pincus

Harry Macklowe and 46 East 57th StreetCalifornia private equity firm CIM Group, which paid off lenders to take control of Harry Macklowe's former Drake Hotel site at Park Avenue and 56th Street for $305 million, has acquired an additional property adjacent to the assemblage.

The CIM Group paid $42.5 million for the 18-foot wide townhouse at 46 East 57th Street, city records filed yesterday show. The California company picked up the five-story, 57th Street property through six separate deeds, with values between $417,057 and $14.2 million, city records show.

The five-story building would modestly widen the frontage Macklowe put together on 57th Street, if it is added to the site.

An outside spokesperson for CIM Group declined to comment, other than to confirm the sale price.

Woody Heller, an executive managing director with commercial firm Studley, advised CIM Group on the sale. He declined to comment on the transaction.

Macklowe bought the Drake Hotel at 434 Park Avenue in 2006 for $418 million and the next year tore it down with plans to rebuild a hotel, residential and commercial development. He acquired four of the seven properties along 57th Street in order to give the site frontage on the high-profile street.

But Macklowe defaulted on the project's loans, and Deutsche Bank representing a group of lenders filed to foreclose in August 2008. CIM Group took over the site in January 2010, but real estate insiders say Macklowe is still involved in the project today.

According to property records and foreclosure filings, by 2008 Macklowe controlled 38, 40, 44 and 50 East 57th Street, but not 42, 46 and 48 East 57th Street.

This new addition widens access on the street, but property records indicate CIM Group still does not control 42 and 48 East 57th Street, preventing a new development from building a cohesive street wall on the block.
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I think it’s safe to say we have a ways to go before any new development.
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I think that something will start rising in 2011.
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^^^ There’s been no indication that’ll happen, and based on this article it sounds like they have their hands full in working out the site.
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The high-end residential real estate market is very strong, and the only new product underway is Carnegie 57. Clearly, the owner of this site is preparing to do something, and one would assume that it would want to be among the first developers with a product to sell.
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I hope we get a 1000-foot tower on this site. The zoning would allow for a very tall, slender tower.

And can you imagine the prices? This has to be one of the best development sites on the planet.

Park Avenue already has sold apartments in the $40-$50 million range, and these are mostly prewar coops with very strict house rules and a tough interview/approval process.

I think any residential units at this address could break Manhattan sales records.
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I hope we get a 1000-foot tower on this site. The zoning would allow for a very tall, slender tower.

And can you imagine the prices? This has to be one of the best development sites on the planet.

Park Avenue already has sold apartments in the $40-$50 million range, and these are mostly prewar coops with very strict house rules and a tough interview/approval process.

I think any residential units at this address could break Manhattan sales records.
lets build the Water view tower!!


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I think we can do a hell of a lot better than that.

But anything tall and elegant will be an improvement over the current site.
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It's one of the top locations in Manhattan for a residential, and I'm glad plans for the office tower were dropped. With the Tower Verre and Carnegie 57 showing the way, it's time for an attention grabbing residential tower on the east side.
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At least something to give TWT a little company in that category, speaking of which I’m still waiting on his ‘next big thing’ for the city. Between these three Midtown projects, plus the two Downtown, the Manhattan residential market is heating up with regards to height. It’s almost as if one is trying to outdo the other.
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