NEW YORK | 432 Park Avenue (Drake Hotel dev.) | (1,396) FT / 432 M | 89 FLOORS - Page 49

Eidolon · #**961** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 1:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by Crawford

450 Park Avenue was designed by Emery Roth, and is considered an architectural standout.

It's probably among the most valuable towers on the planet. When it was sold a few years ago, it smashed all U.S. records for price per square foot.

Any idea on the air rights it has?

Inkoumori · #**962** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 1:47 AM**

I love 450, it's graphically dynamic and the black glass/weathered steel cladding is gorgeous.

That is part of what is missing on this proposal. The other is streetwall.

Inkoumori · #**963** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 1:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

Any idea on the air rights it has?

None.

yankeesfan1000 · #**964** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 1:58 AM**

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Dac150 · #**965** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 2:01 AM**

If that's accurate then wow . . paper thin . . .

Eidolon · #**966** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 2:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by yankeesfan1000

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Love it!

This has me even more hyped about this tower.

I do believe it will have a bigger presence in the skyline than it has in this pic, it seems impossibly slender.

Crawford · #**967** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 2:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

Any idea on the air rights it has?

Probably none.

It's next to 432 Park, and if they're really going to build a 1,420 ft tower, I assume the developers are buying up all the adjacent air rights.

Inkoumori · #**968** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 2:43 AM**

It's "as of right". http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/html/zone/glossary.shtml
No need to buy air rights.

Roadcruiser1 · #**969** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 2:55 AM**

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You know even though this tower would be 1/8 of the width of one of the Twin Towers themselves the height of this building 1,300 feet or more would make it as tall as one of the Twin Towers themselves. Include all this and again it would give people that feeling of looking at the Twin Towers again although this building would not have a twin it by itself would give people a little of that same feeling again.

Zapatan · #**970** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 4:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1

You know even though this tower would be 1/8 of the width of one of the Twin Towers themselves the height of this building 1,300 feet or more would make it as tall as one of the Twin Towers themselves. Include all this and again it would give people that feeling of looking at the Twin Towers again although this building would not have a twin it by itself would give people a little of that same feeling again.

1/8 the width of the twin towers would be 25 feet wide, this buildings more like half the width of the old WTC.

It would be a bit taller than in that rendering if it really is 1420 feet, it's about 1200 feet in that pic, it's not too far behind metlife.

I don't mind the tower being thin I just hope it stands out more than that.

NYguy · #**971** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 9:05 AM**

Nice render.

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Originally Posted by Crawford

It's probably among the most valuable towers on the planet. When it was sold a few years ago, it smashed all U.S. records for price per square foot.

I remember reading that. I also think it will enhance the view of this tower from street level.

manchester united · #**972** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 4:20 PM**

We know that the height will be probably 433 m. But what will be its width ?

RobertWalpole · #**973** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 5:42 PM**

The tower will be 75 feet wide based upon Vinoly's statement that the height to width ratio is 19:1.

1Boston · #**974** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 6:30 PM**

It looks like they're starting to take down another building in the back. I think its 45 east57th street.

Eidolon · #**975** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 6:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by 1Boston

It looks like they're starting to take down another building in the back. I think its 45 east57th street.

Yeah, I also saw them throwing something off the building in quetion.

1Boston · #**976** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 6:57 PM**

^ yeah i compared the livestream to a screenshot Nyguy posted a few days ago, and you can clearly see a large part of the wall is now gone

NYguy · #**977** Posted **Jan 19, 2012, 10:16 PM**

Yeah, they're moving pretty quick with the demo it seems. I really feel that this will be under construction sooner rather than later.

RobertWalpole · #**978** Posted **Jan 20, 2012, 4:13 AM**

This 432m floating tower design with the sleek metal and glass facade will be great.

Guiltyspark · #**979** Posted **Jan 20, 2012, 4:37 AM**

I have never seen 450 Park before but it looks beautiful from those pictures. The windows really make it stand out.

Edit: It occurred to me he might have been talking about the GM building.

jd3189 · #**980** Posted **Jan 20, 2012, 4:41 AM**

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The New York Skyline of the future is going to be a hybrid of the 30s pre-9/11 eras together. More buildings are going to stand out.