1000 Speer Concepts

RyanD · #1 Posted: **Feb 8, 2013, 2:45 AM**

So not to clog up the Denver thread, I am creating this for a fun little game.. A little poll / discussion on 1000 Speer. What concept design do you like most, and why did you choose said design?

Option 1

http://www.denverinfill.com

Option 2

http://www.ozarch.com

Option 3

http://www.denver-cityscape.com

Option 4

http://www.burkettdesign.com

Option 5

SLC Projects · #2 Posted: **Feb 8, 2013, 4:17 AM**

2

bunt_q · #3 Posted: **Feb 8, 2013, 4:43 AM**

#6, none of the above. But if I must choose, then #2.

#5 is barely more than massing. If they could actually make it look like Darth Vader, that might be interesting. But they couldn't.

#1 looks like a Sun Belt convention center took a crap.

#3 looks like a mediocre office building. #4 looks like the same mediocre office building that hasn't been value engineered yet to remove the stupid looking graduation cap roof.

RyanD · #4 Posted: **Feb 8, 2013, 6:23 AM**

I went for #2 as well.. I've never seen an 'OZ' inspired tower here in Denver actually built and it would be neat to see (not to mention their Tabor II concept is stunning). However, it does scream Colotecture / straight out of the mountains. It's the best out of all the evils IMO.

EDIT: Thanks for the chuckle tonight with your critiques Bunt. I needed that.

wong21fr · #5 Posted: **Feb 8, 2013, 4:16 PM**

I like #3. I love value engineering. Value engineering is the cold calculation of financial modeling. It shows you that someone is getting serious. Value engineering is when the developer's financial analysts tell the architects to get real and start designing something that fits the budget and has a somewhat realistic chance of happening.

bcp · #6 Posted: **Feb 8, 2013, 5:52 PM**

the golden triangle really has the chance to be denver's gold coast / vancouver if it fills out completely.

bunt_q · #7 Posted: **Feb 8, 2013, 6:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by bcp

the golden triangle really has the chance to be denver's gold coast / vancouver if it fills out completely.

Oh, don't you worry, developers will figure out the half-block-monolith formula down there soon enough too. Land assemblage might be a little tougher than in Arapahoe Square. But the glorious reward of a 4-story podium with 6 stories of stucco above is too good to resist.

RyanD · #8 Posted: **Feb 8, 2013, 7:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by bunt_q

Oh, don't you worry, developers will figure out the half-block-monolith formula down there soon enough too. Land assemblage might be a little tougher than in Arapahoe Square. But the glorious reward of a 4-story podium with 6 stories of stucco above is too good to resist.

But it would look so fabulous...

Sam Hill · #9 Posted: **Feb 8, 2013, 10:23 PM**

While I agree all of these designs could be better, none of them made me cranky like bunt_q. In fact I actually really like a couple.

I had to go with 2, if for nothing else, just for being skinny (or at least appearing so in this tiny rendering) and for having a nice mix of glass and color. I wish the town had more tall/skinny buildings.

I almost picked 4. Speaking of which, the rendering makes no sense to me. It looks like the parcel of land must be huge, far larger than that little triangle block, in order to fit that big cluster of buildings and all the landscaping and driveways winding about.

bunt_q · #10 Posted: **Feb 8, 2013, 11:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sam Hill

none of them made me cranky like bunt_q.

The crankiness was (is) a pre-existing condition.

Sam Hill · #11 Posted: **Feb 9, 2013, 3:02 AM**

RyanD · #12 Posted: **Feb 9, 2013, 4:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by bunt_q

The crankiness was (is) a pre-existing condition.

(Had to bring this one back)

I see you reacting more like that when new building designs appear here..

Stenar · #13 Posted: **Feb 9, 2013, 6:14 AM**

#2 is SO Carnegie Hall Tower. Been there. Done that.

Source: nyc-architecture.com

Dogpatch · #14 Posted: **Feb 11, 2013, 6:05 PM**

I'll choose #2. It gonna be really nice to see Speer lined with more high rise residential.

Fritzdude · #15 Posted: **Feb 11, 2013, 6:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dogpatch

I'll choose #2. It gonna be really nice to see Speer lined with more high rise residential.

agreed.. I'd like to see Speer go high-rise as well as 17th along City Park.

wong21fr · #16 Posted: **Feb 11, 2013, 6:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by bunt_q

The crankiness was (is) a pre-existing condition.

There's a treatment for that, you do live off of Federal after all.

FrancoRey · #17 Posted: **Feb 12, 2013, 11:09 PM**

Even though I think it looks like the Ameristar Casino in Blackhawk, #2 looks the tallest. So, #2.

Overhangs on the top are a little much. If not for that, it's my favorite massing and shape.

#5 could be more appealing if there were more attention given to it. Looks interesting. Give me a more solid proposal for that one and I'll probably switch my vote to that one.

BG918 · #18 Posted: **Feb 13, 2013, 12:49 AM**

As a GT resident my favorite is #3 since it appears to be the most developed, and I imagine that will be the one that is built. The neighborhood needs more glass and less EIFS/stucco, which is why I hope to see 800 Lincoln (all glass tower) start construction soon as well.

bunt_q · #19 Posted: **Feb 13, 2013, 1:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by BG918

The neighborhood needs more glass and less EIFS/stucco, which is why I hope to see 800 Lincoln (all glass tower) start construction soon as well.

That surprises me... on pretty much every count. I wouldn't have thought GT residents would want it more glassy. Hmm. Guess that's what a couple of fake French monstrosities will do for a neighborhood.

glowrock · #20 Posted: **Feb 13, 2013, 1:57 PM**

I'm so happy that Craig "douchebag" Nassi long ago was forced out of Denver with his tail between his legs. I swear, while I'm glad his projects added height and density to the GT, the designs are just SOO awful! Only one actually decent is Belvedere IMO, and that's not saying much!

Aaron (Glowrock)