Calgary Public Transit II

[jeffwhit]

Originally Posted by mooky

MonctonGoldenFlames>

In the end its about density. Should we forget about the 30,000 people that already use the 301N and 3 up Center Street? If you look at that as a starting point versus 0 (pre-TOD taking 10-20-30 years to flush out) up Nose Creek until 32nd ave and then industrial from 32 to 64th avenue, and then residential, I think the argument leans heavily on Center Street LRT servicing now and into the future more potential customers. Center can still be turned eastward so it doesn't preclude a run to the airport, or a people mover to connect to the LRT system.

To put it into persepective, 30000 daily boardings on the C Street bus routes compares favourably to many NA city's entire light rail system:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_r..._North_America

Almost the same as Minneapolis's light rail system.

Without a single additional living unit being built along the corridor, the ridership already exists to justify the alignment.

[srperrycgy]

Took my first trip to the NE in a year to grab some pics of what's been going on at Whitehorn.


WHI-20101016-2 by srp775, on Flickr


WHI-20101016-5 by srp775, on Flickr


WHI-20101016-7 by srp775, on Flickr

No work on the inside yet.

[ZeDgE]

Are they adding canopy's like the downtown stations?

[srperrycgy]

Not the same, but half of the platform will be covered:

http://www.calgarytransit.com/html/w..._stn_2010.html

[frinkprof]

So I finally got that first page graphic transit info listing up. More to add, some to edit, but it's there.

[fusili]

Originally Posted by frinkprof

So I finally got that first page graphic transit info listing up. More to add, some to edit, but it's there.

Welcome back Frink. We missed you.

[DarkKeyo]

Originally Posted by MonctonGoldenFlames

i'm not saying we should ignore the 30,000 or so people who use the 301 or 3, but we should also not ignore the thousands of people who travel the deerfoot to reach downtown.

We aren't ignoring the Deeerfoot commuters, as Centre St is as close to Deerfoot and areas it draws its traffic from as the South LRT is and SE LRT will be.

Nice to see Whitehorn looking new. It would be very nice to see all the 1985, as well as the 1981 stations receive this treatment in the next few years...

4th St is moving along, Westbound City Hall has platform and canopy well set up, and Eastbound City Hall is finally having the platform base poured.

And the new SD160's are being tested frequently (info from CPTDB).

[Riise]

Originally Posted by frinkprof

So I finally got that first page graphic transit info listing up. More to add, some to edit, but it's there.

First off, nice to have you back! Secondly, great job!

One thing, could you possibly include some basic info about the current system? It would be helpful for visitors looking for such info.

[freeweed]

So, trying to avoid clogging the election thread... Nenshi (along with the other 2 top candidates) campaigned saying he'd get rid of the Park 'n Ride fee.

Anyone want to make an educated guess as to how long that might actually take to happen?

[DizzyEdge]

Anyone have an educated guess at how much that might add to the deficit? (or would it?)

[kw5150]

Originally Posted by freeweed

So, trying to avoid clogging the election thread... Nenshi (along with the other 2 top candidates) campaigned saying he'd get rid of the Park 'n Ride fee.

Anyone want to make an educated guess as to how long that might actually take to happen?

I would hope they can turn that around right away...... I am also still questioning how good that new park plus system is..... tourists hate the system and the other day I forgot to deactivate my parking session and got charged 20+ dollars for 10 minutes of parking..... I think we just have to live with the system for now... goodbye to LRT pay lots though.....

[freeweed]

Originally Posted by DizzyEdge

Anyone have an educated guess at how much that might add to the deficit? (or would it?)

I have a "3" stuck in my head. It's either $300,000 or $3 million. Or I'm full of shit.

[DarkKeyo]

On a slightly off-topic note...

I collect maps, and today major Canadian publisher MapArt released, after 2 years, their Calgary map. Of interest is the fact they have marked in ALL the potential future LRT corridors. SELRT, WLRT to Aspen, NELRT past Saddleridge, SLRT past Somerset, and NCLRT on the Nose Hill routing.

I'm not sure why a popular map company would print routes that are almost certainly going to change, and may not be built for decades, but it's kind of interesting. It's fun to see what we could eventually have, if I wait long enough for them to build things.

[mersar]

Probably about $3M is what it would take out of revenues.

That said, the first council meeting in early November will be likely when its first brought up, though its going to be behind a couple other transit related items so I also wouldn't be surprised if its not brought up for actual discussion for a bit.

[kw5150]

Originally Posted by DarkKeyo

On a slightly off-topic note...

I collect maps, and today major Canadian publisher MapArt released, after 2 years, their Calgary map. Of interest is the fact they have marked in ALL the potential future LRT corridors. SELRT, WLRT to Aspen, NELRT past Saddleridge, SLRT past Somerset, and NCLRT on the Nose Hill routing.

I'm not sure why a popular map company would print routes that are almost certainly going to change, and may not be built for decades, but it's kind of interesting. It's fun to see what we could eventually have, if I wait long enough for them to build things.

I love maps and collect them as well. I have a 1994 map of Calgary that I bought the first time I visited......among other obscure cities from years ago like grande prairie.

[shogged]

i'm really digging nenshis third priority, getting the selrt started as soon as the wlrt is done. he says the city may have a reserve fund for it already, anyone have some insight?

[Me&You]

Originally Posted by kw5150

I would hope they can turn that around right away...... I am also still questioning how good that new park plus system is..... tourists hate the system and the other day I forgot to deactivate my parking session and got charged 20+ dollars for 10 minutes of parking..... I think we just have to live with the system for now... goodbye to LRT pay lots though.....

I love the Park Plus system. Highly recommend setting up an account with your cc and cell phone. I will admit canceling can be a pain, but I assure you, you'll learn quickly to remember

Originally Posted by freeweed

I have a "3" stuck in my head. It's either $300,000 or $3 million. Or I'm full of shit.

$3 per day perhaps (or is that not even right?)...

[SubwayRev]

Agreed on Park Plus. I think it's great, and have never had a problem at all.


I seem to remember $6 million for park and ride revenue. But like freeweed, I could be full of shit too.

[MalcolmTucker]

Originally Posted by shogged

i'm really digging nenshis third priority, getting the selrt started as soon as the wlrt is done. he says the city may have a reserve fund for it already, anyone have some insight?

Well, there is Green Trip, that with a P3 partner, and maybe a P3 boost from the feds (from the P3 Canada fund) could build it without tapping other capital funds. It is robbing peter to pay paul however - but we do get the infrastructure in the mean time.

[DizzyEdge]

When is the WLRT scheduled to open again?