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yeah, I'd be surpirsed if the crane was removed before the mechanical structure is completed. The materials are heavy.
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The Ritz cladding is nearly to the top in certain sections (1 floor to go on the south side)... I think they will stop installing cladding once the rest of the building is clad up to this point... They'll have to wait for the steel roof to be built before they can move the cladding any further...

what's taking so long!

*Yup... it looks like we see a little bit of slant forming on the back end of the Ritz
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Imma check out Four Seasons...

see how that glass is looking and report back here...
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Quick update before I leave downtown.. If you guys thought the cladding on Four Seasons was good... then you wont believe whats going on here.... they are using a glass over glass pattern on the southern corners.... and it looks amazing.... didnt have my cam.... but im sure u get the idea..
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Not to be outdone.. here is a Trump Toronto video

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Assuming that MLS and Centennial are complete and Ice and L Tower have begun construction, it should come in at #10 knocking out Absolute. It's noteworthy that it would be the only tower on the list shorter than 200m.
Centennial will be off the list fairly soon. There is still a bit construction happening on the top of the building. When is a building considered not u/c? When the doors are open to the public?

Speaking of Centennial, I'm just curious where the figure of 188m/599' comes from? I'm not contesting, but rather, I believe that is the right height. In the diagrams section it was listed as 177m with the spire, but now that the building has topped out, you can see it clearly wasn't the right height.
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I feel like in 2 years that every single one in the top ten will be from Toronto. I don't think there's much really tall on the horizon in Calgary or Vancouver that will be over 200m, at least not for several more years. Maybe Lacaille on 4th? Even that I think is supposed to be a touch under 200m.
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^It''l be all Toronto. As far as new projects for Calgary, I could only see Lacaille as possibly being over 200m.

A couple more of Centennial



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Centennial will be off the list fairly soon. There is still a bit construction happening on the top of the building. When is a building considered not u/c? When the doors are open to the public?

Speaking of Centennial, I'm just curious where the figure of 188m/599' comes from? I'm not contesting, but rather, I believe that is the right height. In the diagrams section it was listed as 177m with the spire, but now that the building has topped out, you can see it clearly wasn't the right height.
I'm not sure where you're seeing the figure 188m. It's listed as 186.2m to the spire both here and in the diagram section.

Anyway, with respect to when a building is considered built, I'm following the lead of the diagram editors. I'm not quite sure, but I think that they consider a building complete when it's either open to the public (for office buildings) or when tenants start to move in (residential buildings). Also, you might notice that I'm not listing anything as U/C if it's only in the site prep/demolition stage (such as L Tower), which I believe is also the convention with the diagrams.

Even though MLS and Centennial are topped out and essentially complete externally (which I've indicated with an asterisk on the quick list), I'm going to leave them on the list until it's official. After all that time spent getting dressed and primping, I figure they deserve a little walk down the red carpet before heading into the ball.
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I feel like in 2 years that every single one in the top ten will be from Toronto. I don't think there's much really tall on the horizon in Calgary or Vancouver that will be over 200m, at least not for several more years. Maybe Lacaille on 4th? Even that I think is supposed to be a touch under 200m.
In two years a lot of Toronto's talls will be off the list too (Trump, Shangri-La, Ritz, Four Seasons). Optimistically, I'd imagine a future group from Toronto looking something like this:

1. Aura - 252m
2. Number One Bloor - 219m
3. Ice II - 217m
4. L Tower - 205m
5. Ice I - 186m
6. U Condos I - 184m
7. 880 Bay Street - 175m
8. Hullmark Centre I - 168m
9. 300 Front - 156m
10. U Condos II - 154m

Even given this scenario, it shouldn't be difficult for Calgary to crack the list.
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I feel like in 2 years that every single one in the top ten will be from Toronto. I don't think there's much really tall on the horizon in Calgary or Vancouver that will be over 200m, at least not for several more years. Maybe Lacaille on 4th? Even that I think is supposed to be a touch under 200m.
Yep, and they'll all be nondescript condos. Just really tall ones.

Well, all the new ones at least.
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Ramako, two years from now, im sure Signature will be under construction. As soon as concord sells out Parade there will be nothing left for them to sell. We should see some movement on Signature before the fall. And judging by the frenzy One Bloor will cause, im sure they will try and figure out a way to take this tower upmarket to capitalize.
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Centennial will be off the list fairly soon. There is still a bit construction happening on the top of the building. When is a building considered not u/c? When the doors are open to the public?

Speaking of Centennial, I'm just curious where the figure of 188m/599' comes from? I'm not contesting, but rather, I believe that is the right height. In the diagrams section it was listed as 177m with the spire, but now that the building has topped out, you can see it clearly wasn't the right height.
- technically, when the doors open. not always easy to figure out when you're someplace else though.
- height was recently posted in the Calgary Construction thread
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In two years a lot of Toronto's talls will be off the list too (Trump, Shangri-La, Ritz, Four Seasons). Optimistically, I'd imagine a future group from Toronto looking something like this:

1. Aura - 252m
2. Number One Bloor - 219m
3. Ice II - 217m
4. L Tower - 205m
5. Ice I - 186m
6. U Condos I - 184m
7. 880 Bay Street - 175m
8. Hullmark Centre I - 168m
9. 300 Front - 156m
10. U Condos II - 154m

Even given this scenario, it shouldn't be difficult for Calgary to crack the list.
That's more of a worst case scenario. We'll see some new proposals this spring/summer, some others hit the market, some applications for height increase, and I wouldn't write off the office market completely either.
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Sorry, I meant 182.6m as listed on the front page. Not sure why I got 188m from?
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I'm not sure where you're seeing the figure 188m. It's listed as 186.2m to the spire both here and in the diagram section.

I'm just curious where the number ultimately came from. I know some people in the Calgary thread were guessing at numbers.
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I have to double check now but, I'm quite sure it wasn't some random guess . The heights were down to hundredths of a metre. Really reliable forumer too. The post was surprisingly ignored though.
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