Car, traffic and congestion lovers? Here's your Atlanta AUTOMOBILE thread.

[atl2phx]

Finally, a thread for ALL THINGS CARS.

Love Cars?
Love 28 lanes of paved asphalt?
Do you decry alternate modes of transit?
Love to say Dadgum?
Love to start every posting with "Well"?
Love trolling Beltline and MARTA threads?

Well this is the thread for you.

E N J O Y !

[atl2phx]

i want this:

[atl2phx]

i can still want that ^^^^

and not want this as my driveway:

[pawelra]

Originally Posted by atl2phx

i can still want that ^^^^

and not want this as my driveway:

Well :-) Where is it ??

[HomeInMyShoes]

^It looks like the junction of the 401 and 402.

[dante2308]

Originally Posted by atl2phx

i can still want that ^^^^

and not want this as my driveway:

That looks like a dream future where Atlanta is 10x as dense and well planned. Are you sure you don't want that? We have the highways as is, the only change would be density and the traffic looks slightly better than ours around sunset/rise. There is this odd disconnect between the roads on either side of the highway. No visible crossings and it seems like major roads end in useless dead ends at odd angles.

[reet]

Car lovers? Why, I'm an avowed urbanist so, of course, I hate all cars! Like all urbanists, I believe cars are servants of Satan and should be outlawed and destroyed.

Like all urbanists, I want to bring great suffering to suburbanites by taking away their cars and abolishing spending on roads. Then I want to take all their tax money and build railways to nowhere. Then I'll set my eyes on their guns and bibles. Mwoooo ah ha ha ha ha!!! (wringing hands together)

[Rail Claimore]

Originally Posted by dante2308

That looks like a dream future where Atlanta is 10x as dense and well planned. Are you sure you don't want that? We have the highways as is, the only change would be density and the traffic looks slightly better than ours around sunset/rise. There is this odd disconnect between the roads on either side of the highway. No visible crossings and it seems like major roads end in useless dead ends at odd angles.

That's the 110/105 Junction in Los Angeles, arguably the largest stack-interchange in the world. That view is looking east.

There's the MTA Green Line LRT running off to the right. In the middle of the 105 freeway, the one going off into the distance, is the portal for the Harbor Freeway busway station at this interchange. The busway can be seen in the middle of the 110 freeway going underneath the 105.

And your density estimate isn't far off. This part of LA has population density of roughly 10K psm.

[jurban8]

Originally Posted by atl2phx

Finally, a thread for ALL THINGS CARS.

Love Cars?
Love 28 lanes of paved asphalt?
Do you decry alternate modes of transit?
Love to say Dadgum?
Love to start every posting with "Well"?
Love trolling Beltline and MARTA threads?

Well this is the thread for you.

E N J O Y !

LOL I thought I was the only one annoyed by that.

[dante2308]

Originally Posted by Rail Claimore

That's the 110/105 Junction in Los Angeles, arguably the largest stack-interchange in the world. That view is looking east.

There's the MTA Green Line LRT running off to the right. In the middle of the 105 freeway, the one going off into the distance, is the portal for the Harbor Freeway busway station at this interchange. The busway can be seen in the middle of the 110 freeway going underneath the 105.

And your density estimate isn't far off. This part of LA has population density of roughly 10K psm.

Yes I recognized LA scenery and the abundance of visible mass transit though having never been to LA, I had no idea where in the city it was.

That stack-interchange has competition with Spaghetti Junction. Compare to Greater Atlanta:



Which one would you prefer?

[echinatl]

Interesting concept: GM's two-seater EN-V concept makes 'urban mobility' hip again

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/24/g...ity-hip-again/

[PedestriAnne]

Originally Posted by echinatl

Interesting concept: GM's two-seater EN-V concept makes 'urban mobility' hip again

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/24/g...ity-hip-again/

You have to read the comments. They're the best part.

That reminds me - has anyone seen that thing that the security people at Lindbergh Plaza ride around in? It looks like a taller, bulkier, all-white version of a Segway, with this sort of white plastic awning over the top. Two guys were walking by at the same time I first saw it and I heard one of them say, "That thing looks like a wheelchair for a Storm Trooper."

[echinatl]

They should dress the security guards as storm troopers.

Interesting chart, affortability index before and after you take into account transportation costs.
http://htaindex.cnt.org/mapping_tool...1=23&layer2=24

[dante2308]

Tesla Model S full electric sedan.




want.

Cousins from Tesla:


Elon Musk is my everything.

The only thing I'm worried about is that that windshield wraps the car. I wonder what effect that will have on the temperature control.

[cybele]

Originally Posted by PedestriAnne;

That reminds me - has anyone seen that thing that the security people at Lindbergh Plaza ride around in? It looks like a taller, bulkier, all-white version of a Segway, with this sort of white plastic awning over the top. Two guys were walking by at the same time I first saw it and I heard one of them say, "That thing looks like a wheelchair for a Storm Trooper."

Well, I reckon they have their hands full with all the night clubs and so forth.

[Rail Claimore]

Originally Posted by dante2308

Yes I recognized LA scenery and the abundance of visible mass transit though having never been to LA, I had no idea where in the city it was.

That stack-interchange has competition with Spaghetti Junction. Compare to Greater Atlanta:



Which one would you prefer?

Spaghetti Junction is interesting because of its use of box-girder support columns. Those are typical in west-coast interchanges. The 105/110 interchange isn't a full stack. There's no flyover from 110N to 105E, but it does incorporate HOV flyovers and the like. The interchange has a massive presence and that picture doesn't do it justice.

This is a pic of the interchange from the north, taken with my cell phone last November.



The only stack interchange that is more imposing to me is the Dallas High-5.

As a whole, I like the more symmetrical look of Spaghetti Junction, but California interchanges and freeways are something almost unique to their state.

[dante2308]

Personally, I think the 400/I-285 interchange addresses and solves all the problems of an interchange in almost the best way. The only improvement would be a dedicated lane from 285 east to 400 north.

[PedestriAnne]

Originally Posted by cybele

Well, I reckon they have their hands full with all the night clubs and so forth.

Oh, this is across the street at the Lindbergh Plaza shopping center, with the Home Depot, Waffle House and the underground Target.

That thing would be a goner over on the side of the street with Lindbergh Station. I can just see some people having five too many and running off with it or trying to jump on it with the security guy when he rode by, causing a catastrophic crash. It really looks like something you'd use to sell ice cream from rather than something that says "authority" or "security."

[echinatl]

What about this?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/taurus-concept-adds-a-touch-of-bullish-masculinity-to-personal-t/

[cybele]

Well if I was going hybrid and whatnot, I would take a good look at the new Buick. They have always made a fine automobile and we have never had a lick of trouble with ours, they don't compromise on the comfort either.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2009...NEWS/908069997